WhiteDove

I had lots of good times and some not so good in The Way. They were what they were, nothing more, nothing less. Not unlike most other times in life whatever the association. I've had good and bad times at the dog park, Walmart too, In fact the same could be said for this cafe. I don't see any of them as part of a charade, dance or cycle of abuse, just life experiances.

I'd tend to agree with Linda I think Acts were covered for the years 71 & 72 Corps nights, then again in 75,76, and half of 77. The Corps notes from those years are about 500 pages alone. They for the most part cover verse by verse. Here is a listing of books covered and the time frame for Corps nights. Corps Notes 1973 Timothy (Sept.1973 -through Aug. 1974) 1974 Timothy (through Aug. 1974) Ephesians (Sept.1974-June 1975) 1975 Acts (Sept. through Jan 1977) 1976 Acts (Sept. through Jan 1977) 1977 Acts (Sept. through Jan 1977) I & II Thessalonians (Feb.1977 - Feb 1978) 1978 I & II Thessalonians (Feb.1977 - Feb 1978) Romans (Sept. 1978 - July 1980 1979 Romans (Sept. 1978 - July 1980 1980 Romans (Sept. 1978 - July 1980 1981 Ephesians (Sept.1981- through May.1982) 1982 Ephesians (Sept.1981- through May.1982) I Corinthians (Sept. 1982) 1983 I I Corinthians (June 1983) Galations (Sept.1983 through Nov. 1983) 1984 Philippians ( Jan.1984 through March 1984) Colossians ( May1984 through June 1984) Timothy ( Sept. 1984 through June. 1985 ) 1985 Timothy & Titus ( Sept. 1984 through June. 1985 ) 1986 Galations- ( Sept. 1986 through April 1987) 1987 Galations- (through April 1987)

E.W. Bullinger wrote in his book The Church Epistles "These seven epistles are never given in any other order than that in which they have come down to us, and are given in our English Bibles." VPW agreed and taught the same in The Way. Peter Wade sent this along this week and I thought I 'd pass it on for those who wish to consider such things. link I posted it here because it IMO has to do more with examining past teaching rather than a doctrinal debate, although I suppose it may end up going in that direction and end up needing to be moved maybe.

Bob Dylan's new album Together Through Life is out April 27 on Columbia Records The album is all about love – love found, love lost, love remembered, love denied. Interesting there is a vinyl release as well. Vinyl 10 new songs including "Beyond Here Lies Nothing," "Life Is Hard" & "It's All Good" >Pressed on 180 gram vinyl >Also contains the entire album on CD New tour dates for 09 The Bob Dylan Show, with Willie Nelson and John Mellencamp, will tour the United States this summer. About the album Listen to some new tracks here

The Allman Brothers got a little riding I mean writing credit for the Midnight Rider as well!!!!!! But I’m not gonna let them catch me, no, Not gonna let ’em catch the midnight rider. Live

There is a nice section in Mrs Wierwills book about the early board and the trustees, not one in the same. There are some letters to the board and other items that were of interest. An audit of the financial records was suggested by the board in response to any questions about the money and where it went. Ermal suggested an independent audit which was done for the 58 - 59 year as per the bylaws V.P. agreed that it should be done. VP Wierwille, Harry Wierwille, and Ermal Owens being the trustees and others like Mal and Jan George and I believe the Doersam's Eddie and Donna and also Paul and Carol Kuck being board members. Their board was set up much like ours at the dog park where the executive officers (President, Vice President, Secretary, Treasurer) are part of the board as well as other general board members who also may be committee heads. There is no listing per say but the records mention some others that spoke on different things so it would be logical that their presence at the board meeting meant they were part of the board I suppose ,but they could have been guests as well. Mrs. Wierwille stated that originally VP asked 12 people to help don't know if that changed or not.

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Dylan - Infidels on my player........ with Mark Knopfler of Dire Straits Neighborhood Bully Well, the neighborhood bully, he's just one man, His enemies say he's on their land. They got him outnumbered about a million to one, He got no place to escape to, no place to run. He's the neighborhood bully. The neighborhood bully just lives to survive, He's criticized and condemned for being alive. He's not supposed to fight back, he's supposed to have thick skin, He's supposed to lay down and die when his door is kicked in. He's the neighborhood bully. The neighborhood bully been driven out of every land, He's wandered the earth an exiled man. Seen his family scattered, his people hounded and torn, He's always on trial for just being born. He's the neighborhood bully. Well, he knocked out a lynch mob, he was criticized, Old women condemned him, said he should apologize. Then he destroyed a bomb factory, nobody was glad. The bombs were meant for him. He was supposed to feel bad. He's the neighborhood bully. Well, the chances are against it and the odds are slim That he'll live by the rules that the world makes for him, 'Cause there's a noose at his neck and a gun at his back And a license to kill him is given out to every maniac. He's the neighborhood bully. He got no allies to really speak of. What he gets he must pay for, he don't get it out of love. He buys obsolete weapons and he won't be denied But no one sends flesh and blood to fight by his side. He's the neighborhood bully. Well, he's surrounded by pacifists who all want peace, They pray for it nightly that the bloodshed must cease. Now, they wouldn't hurt a fly. To hurt one they would weep. They lay and they wait for this bully to fall asleep. He's the neighborhood bully. Every empire that's enslaved him is gone, Egypt and Rome, even the great Babylon. He's made a garden of paradise in the desert sand, In bed with nobody, under no one's command. He's the neighborhood bully. Now his holiest books have been trampled upon, No contract he signed was worth what it was written on. He took the crumbs of the world and he turned it into wealth, Took sickness and disease and he turned it into health. He's the neighborhood bully. What's anybody indebted to him for? Nothin', they say. He just likes to cause war. Pride and prejudice and superstition indeed, They wait for this bully like a dog waits to feed. He's the neighborhood bully. What has he done to wear so many scars? Does he change the course of rivers? Does he pollute the moon and stars? Neighborhood bully, standing on the hill, Running out the clock, time standing still, Neighborhood bully. Copyright ©1983 Special Rider Music

More made up BS show me a post where I have made such a claim on the WoW field . I have consistantly pointed out the obvious that the claims are undocumented and actually gone out of the way to note that does not negate or verify any such claims only records the facts as undocumented.

It's exactly the same MO. This is the way we say it is and no discussion, because we would have to answer some obvious questions like where is the documentation for the claims , any? just one? Pretty tidy package, it just insures that whatever one wants to put forth as true can be done without that silly little truth thing gettin in the way.

You are incorrect in your assumptions I was quite active. That's why I know what I do and it bothers you so ,because it is not incorrect unlike some quotes posted here....... If I'm so uninformed kindly correct the quote. And exactly what first hand information do you speak from? someone's post, no different than someone's phone call all words, that are not documented. How many crimes were you present at first hand , you got your info from the internet. How would you know what a man has or has not done when you have by your own admission no relationship with his work? Hardly creditable information there. Just a clue here, just because you say it does not mean it is true. Clearly you were not there yet you suppose to tell us how it was. The standard works both ways Rascal if presence is the key to creditability you lack any.

Good point Rascal it's pretty Way like to allow accusations to be made and forbid any discussion ,or creditable questioning of them. Kinda like the HOMO purge of the 90's accuse and there is no discussion. We are right. Not quite the way it works in real life is it? What's to hide? Do you fear questions? Amazing how much like those we hate we become......

So I'm guesssing you have some reason for your claim as well since it's pretty much there in black and white. If you were looking for examples of the long term effects of GreaseSpot indoctrination, you need look no farther than this thread. It's tough when you need to deny the facts in front of your face. Oh by the way you might also point out where I defended anyone ,I seemed to have missed it. I simply corrected an incorrect statement, made up words, it appears. Easy to open your mouth and make charges then again it's pretty plain for the world to see they have no basis for those who can read. This is exactly why the Way has no problems making fools of your statements to people all they need to do is produce your made up conclusions and it's clear you don't have a clue what you are talking about. They make you out to be liars because in your hatred you fail to keep focused on the truth. If you really want to send someone off to ask questions you might just wanna stick to the truth,otherwise you just make their job easy.

Really let me refresh your memory from post #6 Don'tWorryBeHappy Yesterday, 02:53 PM Post #6 Group: Members Posts: 748 Joined: 12-September 07 From: the right coast Member No.: 3,186 Looks like what he said to me there it is in black and white,looks like you want to make it something it is not. I think we see the real truth..... By the way hows that quote search going?

It's pretty simple either the book states it or not ......and here you are required to back up your claims it works the same both ways...Dear

Really ? Let's review here, Some posters seem to be able to state exactly what another person thinks, did, or feels, based on not being there ,not being a part of their ministry, or not really having any contact within say 20 years with said individual. Based on that current (cough) information they somehow seem able to state in the affirmative exactly what they did or did not do. Never mind of course when other posters do the same they somehow are not credible due to the fact they were not there. I guess somehow when your not there and you post anti a subject it some how makes it ok. Poof your creditable....... That about sum up the illogical and speculous points for you?

Of course, not having proved a claim true goes against your agenda to have only negative things discussed, can't have a negative post proved wrong. If you run out of things to say just make stuff up, BS was said I called the marker in ,it could have been easily fixed, provide a reference, but as usual fight to the death , discuss anything else ,call names, anything to get the focus off the fact that the claim was wrong. Your double standard got revealed, of course you find that not acceptable. Tooo bad it's the real world , someone wants to run their mouth about some claim, better know what you are speaking about.

Oh so we agree that it is possible to reach the same conclusion without geographic presence ,so now we change the subject to manners rather than just sucking it up and admitting the premise was incorrect. By the way just a few fallacies in your assumptions..... I certainly wouldn't reject a LOT of posts by different posters saying the same thing happened to THEM! 1.Never rejected anything I only correctly stated that the story was not documented by any hard evidence other than the storytellers words . That is correct. My belief one way or the other does not affect that point. Likewise I would not reject a lot of people telling me that another side of the story was true. And a few here as well. The truth is as I have stated before, outside of a few who were there , it's all who you choose to believe based on your feelings about the Way. Then I would weigh it with what I already knew... But I would never demand proof from someone who claimed to be a victim of abuse. 2. Never happened, pure fiction, made up BS, I have never demanded such find it, back up your claim. Didn't you learn any manners growing up, WD? 3. Yep I learned the difference between truth and speculation as well, also not to make claims about people that are not true, to try to prove a point that is improvable.

Yeah if I could not prove my point I'd want the same it distracts from your pathetic attemp to justify that which is nothing.............Why don't you just come clean you'll feel better. Just say it ......

Really seems like it is pretty clear , building gone ,me not there ,you there, same conclusion . Point proved...... I see you followed your predecessor in logic ,when faced with no response name calling works as a point .......NO

I think you misread, what I said was the standard should be the same for all it should not change because one argument is percieved as pro Way the other is anti.. If the standard is to be present personally then it should be the same for all. Personal dislikes or likes should not alter the rule. If that is the standard then only those that meet the requirement would be credible. Unless one was in attendance at a funeral ,or at a crime sceen then they are as non credible as some one who was not at a meeting both rely on outside information, which may or may not be true , as such to claim as true is yet to be proven.

Still waiting for you to prove the claim was correct.......... Or is this your idea of a rebuttal no intelligent argument 1st grade names. Gee is this how you teach Math? Jonny -Teacher how do I know if this math formula is correct? RUMMY - No matter I won't proove it ,I'll just call you a name that will answer the question....... Gee so I proved the point but rather than admit it you want to change the subject? Typical......