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I found this in my files. Time Magazine 09-1971.pdf

Something I learned after leaving TWI is that fundamentalists who cling to the non-negotiable notion that the gospels should not contradict each other (which comes from the belief in inerrancy) will come up with ludicrous interpretations like four crucified. They disregard the fact that each gospel stands on its own. And in case you don't know, each gospel was written loooong after the events it describes. And the gospels were written long after Paul wrote his letters, too. Sometimes I wonder how people woud view the N.T. if the order of the books were put in order of when they were written. That would result in the gospels coming AFTER Paul's epistles. If you're super interested in this topic, check out Fundamentalism by James Barr. And excellent books on the history of the N.T. texts are available by Bart Ehrman. They are easy to read, too!

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The cover of The Toldeo Blade Sunday magazine, March 26, 1972. BEYOND YUK! Just FYI: I also have a PDF of that LIFE Magazine article, but it's too large to post here. The date of it is May 14, 1971. The cover has a photo of Carol Burnett on it. The article inside on The Way is titled, "The Groovey Christians of Rye, N.Y." by Jane Howard. With that article is a photo of VPW on his motorcycle, but it's a bit different than this one. Next to the photo is this: "My vision," Way founder Dr. Victor Paul Wierwille likes to say, "is for the world! We're growing faster than we know how to handle." He made his first triumphal trip to Rye, from Ohio, on a motorcycle."

Today I again spoke with a religion class at Rollins College. Students were assigned to read Undertow and we discussed it. Attached is a handout I gave them to help them understand cults. Feel free to pass it along to others. Cheers, Charlene Cult info flyer-student version_r1.pdf

Hi Greasespotters, The International Cultic Studies Association (I'm affiliated with them) sent this announcement today about a new series beginning March 28, 2024. New Docuseries "Cult Justice" Premiers on Hulu, March 28, 2024 (networkforgood.com) Cheers! Charlene Edge, author of Undertow: My Escape from the Fundamentalism and Cult Control of The Way International. https://charleneedge.com

WIshing you the very best in your journey, OldSkool! Charlene

I don't know which error that Bart Stewart, the reviewer, referred to in Undertow. It may have been the military/athletic stuff in Ephesians, which I describe in the book, or it may have been the Eli Eli issue, also in my book. Whatever it is, it would be in the book, since all the reviewer is referring to is content in the book.

Hello, Greasespotters. Just letting you know that another significant review of Undertow was just published by the International Cultic Studies Association, Inc. By permission, I've republished it here: Book Review of "Undertow," Published by ICSA, Written by Bart Stewart (charleneedge.blogspot.com) Remember, no author vets reviewers. ICSA put out the word about Undertow and this reviewer chose it. Their review is their response to the book, their opinions, their interpretations. Also, keep in mind this reviewer used other sources about The Way besides Undertow in his review. Enjoy! Charlene Edge

Hi Greasespotters! Breaking news: Besides my own website, I have a second home where I speak about The Way International. Where is it? On Blogspot. A Blogspot Valentine If sharing = love, then I consider my effort to share what I know about The Way as a loving gift. And since it's Valentine's Day today, consider this as one big heart-shaped offering. Keep reading for instructions on how to find my articles on Blogspot. But first: on my Blogspot account, you'll also find links to two travel blogs about trips my husband, Hoyt, and I took together: one to Turkey and the other to the Amazon in Peru. Why Blogspot? Before I had my own website and wrote blog posts like this one to send subscribers, I used Blogspot for those two travel stories. They are still there for anyone to read. Blogspot is easy-to-use, and it's free. But Google owns it, so there's that. Anyway, a couple of months ago, I decided to republished some of my content about cults, fundamentalism, and The Way International over on Blogspot hoping to reach more readers. There are many, many, many people who have left The Way and many others who have left some offshoots of The Way. Those folks and others are seeking information to shed light on their experiences and get some history of The Way. Because I was part of The Way for 17 years: a member of The Way Corps leadership and a Biblical researcher trained by the founding president of The Way, Victor Paul Wierwille, I offer insights on that group and on organizations derived from it. Finding Charlene's posts about The Way International on Blogspot Click this link: Charlene Lamy Edge Speaks about The Way International (charleneedge.blogspot.com) After you click the above link, this is what you should see: Scroll down that page to find more posts. These posts are in chronological order going backwards. The first one is "Speaking of Way Stories," dated December 9, 2023. Finding the travel stories On the left side of the page that's in this photo, you would click my name, which is in black letters at the top underneath the circular photo. Doing that takes you to my account page. You'll see links to the travel posts there. NOTE: Unfortunately, the photos of the Turkey trip did not transfer when Blogspot updated their system. However, the photos of the Amazon trip are all there! Let me know if you have any questions. Thanks for reading! Charlene

Socks said: The original RoA was a night during the Winter Advance of 1971 that was called Rock of Ages. That summer of 1971 was the first R of A gathering. Over the next few years the event went from local fairgrounds to the Way's property in New Knoxville, "the farm". Yes, and I was there at all of them, Socks, just like you. Great to meet you then and hear from you now! You were/are one of the "real" ones. The photo below appeared in The Toledo Blade newspaper. It captures the stage dynamic from ROA August, 1971, at The Way HQ near the pond. On a personal note, I happened to be the Corps applicant who painted the banner at the back of the stage "The Word Over the World." I used orange paint, who knows why? And I remember making the banner out of oiled canvas up in the barn under dangling light bullbs (from the rafters) on a makeshift table made of plywood held up by wooden "horses," like the ones they use to stop traffic. I think that autobiographical detail is relayed in Undertow. Anyway, I hear that the WOW phrase is trademarked now. Lemme go back and paint a superscript TM on that banner, okay? To any staff member at HQ who is reading these posts here at Greasespot Cafe, I can't imagine any young people today would jump at the chance to re-enact such hippiedom-yoked to-Bible-thumping. But maybe I'm wrong. Stranger things have happened.

It varies according to people's interests, and other things like emotional and mental health, as far as I know. I can only really speak about my own journey. Here's a bit about my post-cult experience: https://charleneedge.com/charlenes-post-cult-nonreligious-alternative/

Happy New Year, Greasespotters! Just letting you know I've republished some posts on the "cult" topic over on Blogspot. Charlene Lamy Edge Speaks about The Way International (charleneedge.blogspot.com) Cheers, Charlene