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  1. https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/s/BMLDktDe1b Hallelujah y’alls. Sisters are now permitted to wear slacks! Advancing in 2024! Also the ASL interpreter is Curious George!
  2. Sorry to box you in. It’s all good people will eventually add in their perspective after a bit.
  3. On the numbers as you expounded I was going for any reported high water mark. As you detailed reality is somewhat lower. Like the benefits to being in a cult….
  4. How can I not be deceived by other cults? I don’t want to join another one. https://www.reddit.com/r/cults/s/Mh6incJZ98 Reddit thread on this question. Some insightful commentary. For me it was partially self delusion. I traded free will and compliance for an emotional sense of security, belonging, and purpose. All those 3 tangible benefits were 100 percent delusional and false. There is no security and belonging in a high control environment where questioning or presenting a different opinion results in shunning. Obviously there is tangible negative emotional impact with shunning. And any purpose was masked with the true hidden purpose of elevating certain individuals in stature and position. There are emotional lies that people buy into and trade their freedom for.
  5. Hey mod, With all of those quote sentences do you think you could make a form out of them with checkboxes? This way we could easily select one or multiple of them that is most appropriate to the convo?
  6. He is playing out his false vision of himself as Paul, persecuted, imprisoned, but still putting out content. Except he lives in a free country with a lot of opportunity. And he is only imprisoned by the Way paying him a hush money stipend. YouTube is free. YouTube “entrepreneurs” need about 250k subscribers to even make a partial living, which is about 150k more than the greatest reach the cult ever had. He is at 500. The “reverend” title in practical application in today's society is certainly not one that commands the type of narcissist fawning over that VP or LCM envisioned. It more is on par with “shaman, or guru”. In mainstream Christian circles “pastor” carries more significant weight. In the Way that term carries little weight except for one of the “gift ministries”. That term in the Way is every bit as convoluted as the rest of their interpretation of the “one body” section of scripture in Corinthians. It is a magical quality bestowed by the top Machiavellians to those who say nothing but “yes” to every sycophant command. “Pastor” including the varying degrees and positions in mainstream Christianity (I.e. Associate Pastor, Head Pastor) at least describes an analogy of the job of taking care of people, something that the Way will never figure out because they have other priorities, like trademarking WOW. LCM is isolated out on his own island stranded by the political play of those closest to him. He won't escape that reality. He is not an isolated instance either. Paul talking about the family faith being made shipwreck, you probably have even up to a hundred other mini moglets from a Way background with their own little isolated mental realities teaching their version of Way interpreted scripture, paying homage to “the doctor” and trying to carve out their own little subsistence off of shipwrecked tithes.
  7. https://www.reddit.com/r/exmormon/s/q202RXmiNV So they are starting out younger and younger targeting the kids. Here’s the Mormons with a Stake President writing letters to 11 year olds. The next generation is where the cult interest is.
  8. https://thespeakerlab.com/blog/what-are-ethos-pathos-and-logos/?utm_content=adwords&utm_term=&utm_campaign=NB-DSA&utm_source=adwords&utm_medium=ppc&hsa_acc=6969354497&hsa_cam=20941585374&hsa_grp=159420316202&hsa_ad=687905008745&hsa_src=g&hsa_tgt=dsa-19959388920&hsa_kw=&hsa_mt=&hsa_net=adwords&hsa_ver=3&gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAABVcvFRQ2sprRVBs1aCKeTnb6tkDr&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIz6fz0-PYhAMV3jmtBh2BEwKqEAAYASAAEgLgz_D_BwE Here is a little more content on logos pathos and ethos from a speakers perspective. Aristotle postulated that all convincing dialogue originates from these elements. If you consider them also as elements of how people make decisions it gets interesting. The mind (rationale) the authority appeal or credibility appeal and the emotional appeal. It also seems like it might provide some context to investigating “how I got involved with this cult” type of thought patterns.
  9. Looking at some writings by Aristotle, I came across a method for rhetorical analysis of writings, speeches, texts, etc. https://www.scribbr.com/academic-essay/rhetorical-analysis/ Since we are analyzing the Bible and various other works I thought it might be interesting to introduce this angle of analysis. It leads to such questions as what is the logical appeal? Emotional appeal? Or appeal to authority? This might be also helpful in an analytic discussion.
  10. Yeah I’m thinking I’m gonna go with Captain Ahab.
  11. Cool. Obscure victim images. Labeling questions as hatred. Is this representative of the fruit we can expect from “Christians”? Asking for the world.
  12. Is the point that you have an undisclosed Christian Fundamentalist bias? Or disclosed? I used to be Fundamentalist. I spent countless hours of mental manipulation ingraining apologist and absolute views of scripture into my brain: Then I got involved with VPs “How the Word Interprets Itself” in PFAL. Then that led to more countless hours pouring over collateral books trying to ingrain the VP stretches of scripture and short attention span homiletics into my brain as well. It took quite a while to see the hook in that fishing rig. It was baited with intellectualism, belonging in a group, a feeling of superiority. But that house is built on sand not rock.
  13. So consensus says this john would be John the evangelist, different from John the apostle, different than gospel John author. Ironically, this would be a quote from scripture in a book. What was he writing about? I think it was Jesus. The quote sounds like he was with Jesus like John apostle but this was a different guy who lived later who likely never met Jesus. The words are inspiring though using a figure of speech to refer to “Word” as life filled, getting people to expect a bigger “life” quality reading this “Word” So accuracy? Not so much Inspiring language? It’s there.
  14. Cool video. He delves into Project Historicity by describing “The Historic Method” which to me seems like a pretty good model based upon the Scientific Method to evaluate history.
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