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Carol Barney - 06/16/99 03:04:04
My Email:fbarney3@columbus.rr.com
Comments:
Has anyone been in contact with or seen Jeff & Sherry Barney? I am Jeff's
mom and have not seen or heard from them in three years. Their last known
residence was The Way, International headquarters. I think they are in their
first year of residence in the Way Corps. Please e-mail me if you have any
information. God Bless you.
P.
Henry Boland - 06/15/99 18:49:16
My URL:http://bigsun.wbs.net/homepages/f/r/e/free2love/
My Email:p.henry@usa.net
Comments:
for tif... 1987... there I was... 38yrs old divorced int'l outreach tc who,
upon getting involved with them, had 'thrown myself into' the ministry after
the loss of my wife and children some 9yrs earlier, the archtypical martyr,
(oh, and organizsations like TWI just *love* to get their hands on people like
that) longsufferingly 'holding down the fort' back in the IO branch home,
running sunday fellowship for those who couldn't afford the rock, about $2800.
round trip, totally clueless regarding recent events among the trunk leaders...
when here comes my good bud carl back from ohio as well as his home in indiana,
and, as his manner is, immediately shoved the entire thing, the adultery paper,
PoP, the Lynn tapes, all of it. well, I'll tell you, I was floored... for the
last 5yrs or so things just hadn't seemed right, but, of course, because of the
Way's renewed mind policy (false doctrine btw... renewing the mind is something
GOD does... NOT you!) plus their combined doctrine as a whole, I assumed it was
me! why did J. Lynn's teachings not rock like when he did 'will the real you
please stand up?'? why did my eyes glaze over as I listened to the latest sns
tape where before, when I'd been hungry, I used to hang on every word and get
inspired and learn SO much! (even now I know I could go back to the 600-900
series of sns and find some great teachings) why did the teachings in the
waymag seem as clear as mud? see, it was just natural for me to blame myself
and my failings and be distracted from the real problems TWI was having. I was
mad! I mean I was sitting there arguing and getting hot under the collar...
defending my loyalty for what had abandoned me a long time ago, and I sat there
and steamed as I listened to the first Lynn tape until about half way through
the second side, there it was... and it hit me square between the eyes... it
was true! all of it! it was then that God gave me a vision... as I saw the
entire structure crack and crumble to it's very foundation, being hit full in
the face with the realization that all the while I thought I was putting my
faith in God, I was really trusting in the organization... (so this was a good
thing for me) and I suddenly saw myself staggering as the rug was being pulled
out from under me... but then, just as quickly, the staggering ceased and I
looked down to see that I was standing firmly in God's right hand! well, I've
gone my own way with the Lord since then and He has made me a teacher and
apostle, and there's something I'd like to say to you, tif, and to everyone:
you can search from hither to yon and find virtually nothing taught about the
mystery as the primary doctrine of the church (which it is) in the whole of
Christianity... you wont find books about it by Billy Graham, or Oral Roberts,
Charles Colson or the rest... in fact, you can go into a Christian bookstore
and ask them to do a find on their database and come up with zip! Oh, youll
find some sermons regarding those verses in Ephesians and Colossians in some
churches but it is never taught in its true biblical emphasis, i.e.: THE MAIN
POINT!..... GODS main point!.... GODS message to this day and time and HE has
made us ministers and apostles of this gospel! I dont care who you are, if you
have heard and really understood the mystery I think you should consider that
it was NO ACCIDENT! I think you should stop and consider the considerable
spiritual forces (i.e.: the princes of this age) that the bible tells us
plainly definitely dont want ANYONE knowing anything about this and in fact,
had they known it was coming they wouldnt even have crucified Jesus!!!! in fact
the spiritual odds are so stacked against you or anyone ever finding anything
out about the mystery it isn't funny... and definately NOT by accident! you
have been called as a minister of the gospel of Christ, ie: The Secret/Mystery
and you would do we
In Answer to the Previous Poster - 06/13/99 22:18:02
Comments:
Please visit the Christian Family Fellowship web site at: http://www.cffm.org
It is run by some wonderful believers who left the Way and are now getting back
to what The Way once was and should have remained. It's a great place to find
wonderful, like-minded believers who manifest the genuine love of God and don't
tolerate legalism Do your heart good! Visit their web site and ask for their
tape package.
Tiffany
McBee - 06/13/99 07:00:26
My Email:UnaLuna777@aol.com
Comments:
Greetings to you all in the name of Christ Jesus, I feel that this might end up
a little long, but I need to get this out. For awhile now I have been
disillusioned by The Way. I grew up in The Way, and have been through the PFAL
and Intermediate classes. I was six or seven when VPW passed away, but even at
that young age I could feel that something had changed about The Way. I am now
going through a period where I am confused and am trying to find like-minded
believers in my area to help me. I have attended several churches in my area,
but they make my tongue hurt(because I have to keep biting it during the
service). grew more disillusioned when, one day in a parking lot a few years
ago, I noticed a car with a Way bumper sticker. I left a note on the windsheild
stating that I was trying to find a twig in my area. The owner of the car
replied, but they had been from out of town. They did, however, provide me with
a few phone numbers. I was overjoyed! But that was to end soon. My mother, sister,
and I went to the twig which, we had found, was the only one of the numbers
which I had been given which was close enoug for us to attend. But we only went
once. The whole evening we were there we, especially my mother, were bombarded
with questions. I was asked about the kind of music I listened to and why. I
was also asked about the clothing which I wore and why. My mother was asked how
long she and my father had been separated and why. She was also asked about the
home she was, and still is, in the process of buying. There were many other
questions, but these are the ones which i remember at the moment. Well, aft r
the fellowship, on the way home, we talked about how uncomfortable the
questions had made us feel. It felt almost as though we were being interrogated
for some reason. Well, as I mentioned, that was the only time we attended that
fellowship. Because ess than a week later, before we could go back, my mother
recieved a phone call from the coordinator asking that she not return, though
my sister and I were welcome back. The main reason which he gave was that my
mother had too many debts. What kind of reason is that to deny a believer the
fellowship of other believers? At around the same time, my father and
stepmother, who live about four hours away, were told not to come back to
fellowship, though in their situation it was not the twig coordinator w om had
told them this, but someone higher up. And not long after that the coordinator
of that same fellowship was told that he could no longer teach fellowship. He
lost his twig because his child was hyperactive, and The Way told him that if
he could no clam his child down then he could not teach a fellowship affiliated
with The Way. But I can remember that it was not always like this with The Way.
And my heart aches, after reading the documents contained on this site, to find
that it is even worse th n I had thought. But recently I have hungered for the
fellowship of like-minded believers, and earlier today my mother suggested that
I try looking for a twig in the area again. And while on my way to work earlier
I was thinking of this; and that wonder ul, still, small voice spoke to me. And
that is how I ended up here at this site. He told me that I should see what has
been going on since my last encounter with a twig affiliated with The Way, and
that the internet would be a good place to find that i formation. So I went to
a search engine and scrolled through many of the sites listed, and this is one
of only a few which "jumped" out at me. But even after the way many
whom I know and love have been treated like less than the children of God that
they are by The Way, I habor no hate or anger toward The Way. On the contrary,
I feel love torward them still. I also feel sorry for them that they have been
so mislead by the adversary, and I pray that a light will soon dispel the
darkness which hovers about The Way at this time. It pains me to know that
others now cannot have the same loving experience which I recall from my
childhood. But I believe that God has a plan, and that all will work out in the
end. If any of you are or know of any believers whom live in or around the Burlington area of North
Carolina, please e-mail me and let me know. I believe
that I shall be hearing from some of you soon. Until then, God Bless!!! Tif
Steve H - 06/08/99 21:52:52
My Email:Bedman44@aol.com
Comments:
The Way has not lived up to it's original vision VPW had for it. To take a
trully objective view of the scriptures and then let the word speak from it's
inherent accuracy. This principle has helped me in all areas of my life,
unfortunately the organizat on has become a broken cistern that only is in to
self-preservation of error. It is too bad this principle has become shrouded by
religious tyranny.
Larry D. Purviance - 06/08/99 14:36:26
My Email:sueme@micron.net
Comments:
I just had to add something after reading Martindale's ranting and raving about
the bribery issue. It seems in the Way's theology that the devil spirits are
the ones who have the REAL POWER. For the Way now, it is clear that "Devil
SPirits" of all shapes and forms are far more powerful than God!!! But for
our constant vigilance and exertion of tremendous willpower, God is always in danger
of being swept away by far more numerous, talented and powerful devils. I dont
know about you, but that isnt a picture of God that I could really trust or
rely upon! That doesnt sound like a God who loves us and wants the best for us,
a God who relies upon our frail human resources to hold the forces of darkness
- barely - at bay!
Larry Purviance - 06/08/99 14:17:20
My Email:sueme@micron.net
Comments:
This is a neat web page, although I dont agree that us ex-Wayfers should
continue to condemn, harbor resentments, and keep the pain alive forever and
ever. Our involvement in the Way was a two way street - the basic message
appealed to our OWN character efects and shortcomings. Wierwille promised POWER
and control and mastery over life. THat appealed to my bloated ego and
grandiosity, my low self esteem and my self pity. I refused to admit that I was
an untreated alcoholic and didnt need MORE control ove my circumstances and
other people. I'M the ONE (I cant make that judgment about Craig Martindale or
Victor Weirwille) who needed to admit POWERLESSNESS and accept the
unmanageability of my life. In other words, The Way gave me the circumstances
to keep t e sick game of my life going longer. That is not the Way's fault.
Once you accept the fact that Christ truly was God, then you also have the REAL
POWER, which is God's complete unconditional acceptance and forgiveness. You
dont NEED an intermediary to pro ide human acceptance. You dont need somebody
to take your own Bible and tell you what it says. The healing takes place when
you can forgive the Way as an all-too-human institution that appealed to yuor
own sickness. Without the things I have suggested, I m sure that we will go on
being angry and hurt
David
L. Smith - 06/08/99 12:45:07
My Email:dad2jane@yahoo.com
Comments:
1st, some back ground on me: PFAL grad, Sept.'85; W.O.W, '86-'87; Way of CA
limb staff, '88; married 12th Corp grad: Karen Sanford, 6'88; fellowship assist.
coordinator, Roanoke, VA; "left" the Way - officially - 1989
currently attend Fellowship (not "Way" connected) in Nashville, TN.
Could someone tell me what's been happening/has happened with various people:
(For obvious reasons, I lost touch with LOTS of people.) Mrs. Wierwille; Johnny
Townsend; Don Wierwille; Howard Allen; Norma Kehrer; Mario/Darlene: Way Corps
(Laramie,WY-'86); Anyone with the Way of CA; anyone that was W.O.W in WY in
'86/'87; what ever happened with all of the wonderful believers in Africa?;
Ricardo Cabellaro; Claudettee Royal; any Snelling, CA believers; Gordon &
Roberta Gray; Andy Rice; Jeff & Sherry Williams; anyone else that knows me
or my wife (Karen Sanford-12th corps). I surely look forward to the Gathering
together - WHAT A REUNION that will be!! You may contact me at:
dad2jane@yahoo.com
kathy(naberschnig)
colon - 06/05/99 15:47:51
My Email:katsea123@aol.com
Comments:
HI AND GOD BLESS ALL YOU WONDERFUL BELIEVERS IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST!! THE
SITE IS GREAT AND SURELY DOES OPEN ONES EYES! BUT LETS NOT FORGET, FORGETTING
THOSE THINGS WHICH ARE PAST, AND PRESSING ON TOWARDS THE MARK.. ! WE ALL NEED
TO VENT, TIS TRUE BUT BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU SAY. A BELIEVER IS A BELIEVER, WAY MINISTRY
OR NOT... EVEN CRAIG. WE NEED TO PRAY AND CONTINUE TO BELIEVE FOR DELIVERANCE
FOR THOSE STILL INVOLVED. I TOO STILL HAVE IMMEDIATE FAMILY IN THE WAY, AND
YES, IT HURTS, BUT WE GOTTA M VE ON, AND AHEAD. KEEP LOVING THE WAY THE WORD
HAS TAUGHT US TO LOVE, AND EACH, DO YOUR PART! WELL... ENOUGH SAID ON THAT... I
AM LOOKING FOR A BELIEVER.... IF ANYONE KNOWS OF THE WHERE ABOUTS OF LISA
TULLY, PLEASE E-MAIL ME. ANY INFO WOULD BE GREATLY PPRECIATED. LOVE, IN
CHRIST.... KATHY
Matt Tiabbi - 06/05/99 07:19:05
My URL:http://www.exile.ru
Comments:
Your site here is really great... I have a great site too about cults and
stuff. Check it out when you have a chance.
Mark
Lee - 06/05/99 01:59:27
My Email:mlee2@vdo.net
Comments:
Thank you for making this site as thorough as it is. I find this information is
unbiased. It is a great help to all of us who are wanting information on the
way international. Thank you very much.
Janet
Donovan - 06/01/99 15:04:43
My Email:JDono4401@aol.com
Comments:
Great site!!!!! ''''we don't miss the way--but miss the people!! Well---some of
them!!
Chris
Berard - 06/01/99 14:27:40
My Email:cberard@cvsd.org
Comments:
I continue to stay thankful for what God has done in my life in-spite of fallen
ministries.I exhort all my wonderful brothers and sister in Jesus Christ to
look to Him as the living head of the body.For so many years I was so busy
arguing who He wasn`t th t I never took the time to explore who He is.
Patricia - 05/31/99 16:20:33
Comments:
Go WayDale! Expose the liars that they are!!!!
David Lorimar - 05/31/99 16:03:35
My Email:dlorimar@hotmail.com
Comments:
From reading all the different articles at this site, I can see that the way
has changed a lot over the years since I left in 1986. I always wondered what
was going on there now. After reading all this stuff and the other sites like
No Way Out, I'm glad that we got out when we did. Great job. God Bless!
Rob Agsten - 05/30/99 19:31:32
My Email:rea3@bellsouth.net
Comments:
Great site. Thanks for all the hard work so I can come here and mooch. Rob
05/30/99 17:02:25
Comments:
I can truly appreciate the work you have put into this website. I was just a
teenager when I was involved in the ministry. I grew up in the ministry. All of
my friends were there. I went W.O.W. with my parents and went through rough
times and good. I live only an hour from Headquarters and have wondered what is
going on in there. I went to Headquarters about a year ago, just to visit, to
see how it looked, and rekindle a few fond memories. I was treated like a
criminal, I was removed from the Word Over the World Auditorium which is now
called "The Dr. Weirville Pavillion". It hurt and I cried. I have
wonderful memories. I learned a lot. And when the world came crashing down all
of my friends disappeared. I scan the Internet looking for lost loved-ones,
wondering if they are still involved in the Way or not. Wondering where they
are and how they are doing. I wonder if they have lost faith in God, like I did
for awhile, or if they have the same zeal they had so long ago. I miss the love
and understanding that we all used to share. I have tried numerous times to
find a church to attend, but my searches are in vein. I have learned so many
truths from the PFAL and other classes and teachings I attended, that many of
the churches I go to are (for lack of better phrasing) below me. Again, I do
appreciate the information on this website, but I also want to share my
disappointment. I know that it was hard, going through the downfall, but didn't
we learn alot? Didn't we meet and love wonderful people? The Way International
at one point was wonderful and it saddens me to read such ridicule of the past.
I loved my time with the Way and miss the brotherhood that existed. I scorn
Martindale for the hatred he has put in people. Parts of my immediate family
don't talk to each other anymore because "They are in the Way", or
"They are not". God is still God. God still loves us, every one. God
does not shun us because we attend this church or that. The Way taught us that
there are "Believers" everywhere. Catholics, Methodist, Baptists,
and, yes, Way attendees. The thing that was taught to me and has stuck with me
ever since, was that God loves us all and it is up to us to love each other. We
must. We are brethren. We are all the Body of Christ. Mistakes were made and
some will pay for those mistakes, but what about the ignorant and innocent? We
need to come together as the Body and Love All. I am sorry if I have rambled. I
guess I have a lot of old sorrows and kind thoughts. I have never expressed
them to anyone and so now, you all, get the brunt. Thank you for the Website
and Thank you all for reading my passage and allowing me to express my
happiness and regrets..
Tony Almora - 05/30/99 02:06:28
Comments:
Great site! I love the new gallery.
Chris Berard - 05/28/99 22:23:35
My Email:cberard@cvsd.org
Comments:
I continue to stay thankful for what God has done in my life in-spite of fallen
ministries.I exhort all my wonderful brothers and sister in Jesus Christ to
look to Him as the living head of the body.For so many years I was so busy
arguing who He wasn`t that I never took the time to explore who He is.
Gina - 05/27/99 22:42:31
My Email:Ginahides@hotmail.com
Comments:
WOW, did this site come far quickly! I only saw it in the first few days after
you started. Great work! bless ya, Gina (Non-Jester)
Charlie Johnston - 05/26/99 18:58:45
Comments:
Thanks for all the work on the site and all the new articles. WayDale is
becoming a daily stopping off point for me! Keep it up
Debbie - 05/25/99 17:52:13
My Email:bbbbrons@bellsouth.net
Comments:
Go Garth! Enjoyed seeing the sites and reading all the comments.
Danny
Hummel in Iowa - 05/25/99 16:57:54
Comments:
In reading some of the documents, especally about Craig and the gifts and other
things, It really looks like he is paranoid about what the current people in
the Way will find out. To me they should find out every little detail about
what Craig is doing. E en if it means taking the time to give the current
members proof in person. What is happening needs to be told!!!!
Jim
Dziadkowicz(Hills Bro) - 05/24/99
16:08:59
My Email:realclen@frontiernet.net
Comments:
God Bless you all. I see the gang from trancenet is all here. Where is Groucho
Marx Jr ? Just when I thought was about to figure out who he really was
trancenet crashes. Well , I promise I'll be polite, as requested, and through
some humor in every now a d then. Love you guys. Jim Hills Bro. P.S. Hey Garth,
I checked out the Dialoge forum in CES and saw your posts. You were really
throwing some heaters out there. GOOD STUFF !!
Brenda - 05/23/99 05:22:49
My Email:Ambassador7@webtv.net
Comments:
A heartfelt "thank you" for having the courage of your convictions
and the willingness to expose the prevailing darkness! Nothing speaks more
loudly than the documents you have shared here. I had the benefit of the
original PFAL series, for which I am eternally thankful. It was the truth of
the Word, God's heart, that allowed me to discern enough to recognize the
insidious subtlety of the errors and lies. All of us who love God and His Tru h
can benefit from this information, as we continue to endeavor to walk in love.
Hippoc_rat - 05/20/99 19:06:50
My Email:Hippoc_rat@excite.com
Comments:
Stunning work! Keep it up.
Yankee - 05/20/99 02:51:07
My Email:Baglad1@aol.com
Comments:
Thank you for all the work involved in putting together this site. There are
many hunger hearts longing and searching for current information about TWI.
This has been truly an eye-opening experience. Keep up the good work.
Victoria
Nicholson - 05/20/99 01:58:49
My URL:http://members.delphi.com/CoolWaters/index.html
My Email:CoolWaters2@webtv.net
Comments:
This site has made me realize that the twi I came from and the twi of today are
very different things indeed. It has helped me to realize, too, that I cannot
and do not have much of a clue as to what folks were exposed to in the last 9
years of twi. I am so sad to read/hear the things here. I remember the days
when Craig and Donna Martindale were just like the rest of us: wanting to walk
with the Creator of the heavens and the earth. The pain the Martindales
manifest is so very sad to me. This site shows how important it is for us to be
diligent to keep our hearts tender towards one another and keep our eyes on the
truth of who we are in Christ.
Mike
Hadsell - 05/18/99 19:39:52
My Email:Thaibxr1@aol.com
Comments:
Great post. I'm glad someone had the guts to do this. God Bless. Mike
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