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Patrick Roberge - 07/28/99 15:48:15
My URL:http://www.TheWayOfChrist.com
My Email:proberge@aol.com
Comments:
I have spent obscene numbers of hours on your site, and all I can say is nice
going. When my site grows up I hope it can be as popular as yours....
Ex-Twi - 07/27/99 13:49:06
My URL:http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Rhodes/5867/
My Email:ex-twi@eudoramail.com
Comments:
Hi Bill, check out our Open Forum here on WayDale. There's plenty of people to
talk and share with.
Bill
Jackson - 07/27/99 13:22:45
My Email:jacksonbill@hotmail.com
Comments:
I am SO glad that I found this web-site!! I was trying to find a web-site for
The Way so that I could check out the possibility of "getting back in
fellowship" with them. I am a 1992 Advanced Class graduate who began my
association with TWI Sept. 9,1989. On Sept. 9,1994, the Limb Co-ordinator for
the state of Oregon,
Ed Oeding, told me to "go find a church" by way of kicking me out of
The Way. I found it quite interesting that I was given the boot exactly 5 years
after my first twig attendance...and not just 5 years to the day, but to the
very HOUR!! So, being ignorant of what h s been going on with TWI for almost 5
years, I thought I'd check into it to see if God might want me to become
re-associated with them on Sept.9,1999 at 9:00 AM. I had realised after leaving
the ministry that it had turned into another "prosperity religion" twisting
John 10:10 from "..(Life)more abundantly" into..."The More Than
Abundant Life" and that they were seriously lacking in Godly love, but I
had no idea of a lot of the things I saw mentioned in the files of this and
other web-sites. I do remember he ring L. Craig mention the personal loyalty
oath that the Corps grads had to swear to, but really, I was looking forward to
the time when I could join the Corps. I thought I'd found God's TRUTH...
FINALLY...and I wanted to learn as much of it as I could. G d works in mysterious
ways, His wonders to perform! What I thought 5 years ago was a very tumultuous
event(my being booted from the Way) so mind boggling that I eventually dove
back into active alcoholism, has actually proved to be God's timing working in
my life for my continued spiritual growth. I am now recovering from my battle
with the bottle with the fellowship of A.A. and I'm finding A.A. to operate
more like the 1st century church than the church does.( MAN OH MAN, would
L.Craig choke on THAT one if he heard it!!) Now that I've found this and the
other ex-Way web-sites, perhaps I can find some fellowship on a more firm
spiritual foundation than the 'iffy' Higher Power of A.A. If anyone would like
to correspond with a mixed up but still seeking God ex-leaf, I would sure be
blessed to communicate with a Bible believing Christian or three. Agapeo; Bill
:-)
tokie - 07/21/99 02:39:37
My Email:tokie@angelfire.com
Comments:
It's straing to see names i havent seen in years im glad they are free.
abby - 07/19/99 19:24:17
My Email:abacabby
Comments:
98 degrees rocks!!!!!!!!!! Oh and i luv your page! peace out and later
dayz!!!!!!!!!!
Taylor
and Youla Overbey - 07/19/99
14:32:12
My URL:http://www.wordcentered.com
My Email:Taylor@wordcentered.com
Comments:
My wife, Youla, and I live in Alameda,California, across the Bay from San Francisco. If anyone would like to
fellowship with us, we'd be blessed to see you! Thank God that His Word has not
changed, and that NOTHING can separate us from the love of Christ!
Larry - 07/16/99 09:49:29
My URL:http://www.touch-alaska.com
My Email:support@touch-alaska.com
Comments:
Hi all... just stumbled in after trying to post to TranceChat and learning that
it doesn't appear to be working anymore. I'm an ex-Military WOW who served in
the U.S. Army over in Germany
from 1977 to 1981. I've been looking for others that may have bee over there
during that time and hoping to reestablish friendships that were forged way
back then. Although I have been out of TWI since then, hardly a day goes by where
I don't recall some event or personality from that time. Write me if you
like... L fe is good.
Tony - 07/13/99 15:11:28
Comments:
Thank you for the very worthwhile site. I visit daily.
Suzanne - 07/13/99 06:11:50
My URL:http://casabella7@aol.com
My Email:Casabella7@aol,com
Comments:
I was one of the Bloomsburg girls back in 1975 . PFAL tore into town during the
summer between freshman and sophmore year. I came back to see my former
roommate who had unfortunately stayed in Bloomsburg for the summer. It was at
that time I noticed a tremendous difference in her. The normally carefr e,
lighthearted young lady had turned painfully serious....about everything!!! I
loved her so much that I agreed to take a pfal class to appease her. I remember
partying moments before we committed to the many hours for that evening. I knew
in my heart that I had no desire to get heavily involved with anything that made
you do t e things she was now doing. But, was there something wrong with me for
not seeing a need like she did? Before I knew it all of my closesf friends were
taking the class and I was losing my support system. I tried to go along with
it but I never liked the idea of living in a boring way home and eating
ridiculously healthy foods. I was still young and wanted to experience
everything about my life the way I chose to. I suppose that being stubborn has
some a vantages in life. Well, things got stranger and stranger. I wasn't sure
if I was going to maintain my very dear relationships with friends i treasured.
I was starting to get the idea that I wasn't going to be welcomed into the
group. But , to tell you the truth.....ther was absolutely nothing fun about
anything that they were doing. My brother also got involved with the ministry
at the same time. He did his fair share of undersheparding me but, the stubborn
gal just wasn't buying it. I guess I'm one of the few who are out there who
really got a good look at the Way from the inside but II never let go of my
mind. I just think that I was always looking for something more. My ideas about
God did not concern me, I had no hang ups that I could think of ....why in the
world would I want to go along with this group? Anyway, the best friend goes
Corp......my brother goes corp....my other best friends goes corp.....I think
Weirwille rounded up the entire campus. He called them "HIS GIRLS"
What a Creep. I have first hand knowledge of his despicable behaviours and was
told by my dearest, sweet friend who had been overtaken by brainwashing thatt
the "Lord needs beautiful women".....I felt like I was being
recruited to "HOOK" for Jesus./ Things have changed alot. Everone
that once was a part is now apart. It has ruined countless peoples
lives,,,,,,my brother and his wife both died seperately from cancer leaving 3
children behind, I believe that the grief of losing their connectioon to
omething they believed so strongly in helped to manifest their disease. And My beautiful
roommate? My friend is very sick now, She needs professional help from a doctor
for depression and panic attacks.....it all stems from the sexual mess she
found herself in with the WhereWILL I hope she recovers.....it's been a long
road. Last night I talked with her for the first time in many years and to this
day she says that I was the smarrt one. That the Way and VPW ruined her life. I
hope she finds peace...like I hope many of you do.
Kit
Sober - 07/12/99 02:54:47
Comments:
Thank you for all you do in His name. Indeed your work is a refreshing to the
spirit and soul. Our lives were deeply imprinted by our fellowship with The Way
International, and your work helps us to sort out the good (hold fast to it)
and the bad (eschew it). Thank you very much. Yours, Kit Sober
shell
north - 07/12/99 00:17:28
My Email:snorth@michweb.net
Comments:
has waydale shut down? I don't get email re: new stuff, nor do I see new stuff.
Just wondering. I love the site and find it helpful, but would like current twi
stuff. Have family in there still and this is my only way of knowing what's
going on inside those walls. Bless and thank you
john
butler - 07/03/99 18:18:21
My URL:http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Rhodes/5867/main/guest_book.htm
My Email:johnfbutler@erols.com
Comments:
thanks for the great information glad to hear that folks are getting on with
their lives....living about the fear based system that the way promoted.
Shell
North - 07/03/99 17:39:15
My Email:snorth@michweb.net
Comments:
I am trying to get a copy of POP that Chris Geer did and the letter to Bo. O
Tr. after. I would like both mailed to my home, if possible. Please email me
and let's figure out it this is possible. Thanks.
jennifer - 07/02/99 16:27:25
My Email:jen-o@webtv.net
Comments:
I think I need to clarify my last post. I am looking for a copy of "The
Passing of a Patriarch". I am also looking for a copy of the letter sent
by John Lynn, Raph, etc. to the trustees in response to the "Passing"
and John Lynn's Tape - Overview of Event - 4/85 to 10/87. By the way, how do
you folks get together to fellowship? It's kind of hard not to be able to hang
out with believers. You know, hearts knit together in love, speaking the truth
to one another. Please respond. Thanks, jen-o
jennifer
onorato - 07/01/99 16:49:58
My Email:jen-o@webtv.net
Comments:
Does anyone know where I can get a copy of the original Chris Geer letter to
the Way Int. board of directors? I would really appreciate the info. jen-o
Sherry - 06/29/99 22:18:24
My Email:mom3boys@nr.infi.net
Comments:
Thank you for your web site about The Way. I spent 13 years (1973-1987) and met
my husband while in The Way. I am very thankful for the good things I learned
and have tried to forget the bad. I find it so sad that Craig Martindale and
other leaders hav become so controlling. There was always a touch of that in
the Way but now it is overwhelming! I am thankful for the good things about God
and HIs Word I learned while in The Way but thankful now I have been set free
from The Way also. God Bless
Patty - 06/28/99 04:28:03
My Email:opper8@mciworld.com
Comments:
I just wanted you to know that I am recently married to an ex-way member. My
new husband is so full of God's love and so knowledgeable about the Bible that
I feel overwhelmed at times. I am so thankful that God has sent this man to me
and that he had th availability of the truths that he was exposed to. I know
that The Way went bad...really bad...but I know that the beginning was good. I
just wanted to let you know that I look at your web page frequently. It has
helped me to understand what my husband has gone through. I really appreciate
the insight. Please pray for us as we find a church home or fellowship to
attend. Patty
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eagle - 06/24/99 16:17:04
My Email:kauffman_millsap@hotmail.com
Comments:
i am looking to find out how kathy leach is doing.i met her in cocoa
beach,florida in 1989.she may have gotten married to another wayer.in 1989 she
told me she was going to manhattan,kansas to be with this guy.i would
appreciate any help. thank you
Jon - 06/19/99 08:59:43
My Email:Vs2@hotmail.com
Comments:
I have not been involved with TWI in years and years. I kinda got uninvolved
when things began to fall apart, about in 1987. Since then I have often
wondered about what was happening. There are many individuals who gave alot to
me in The Way that I miss and would like to contact. Overall, I'm very grateful
for most things I learned in the Way, and the principals that I have been able
to incorporate. However, I sure am thankful I left when I did. J
Tate
(Bastard) - 06/19/99 06:22:44
My Email:tim_mos@hotmail.com
Comments:
I wrote several critical comments about this page in trancechat, which seems to
be out of commission now. Anyway, since then I have come here many times. I
really like the audio files. If anyone knows where I can get a set of
Martindale sunday service tapes I would be interested.
Ex-Twi - 06/17/99 15:18:21
My Email:ex-twi@eudoramail.com
Comments:
Hi Greg: I appreciated reading your posts. You are welcome to write here
anytime and indeed post in the Open Forum too. A threaded discussion in the
Open Forum can however be more easily maintained.
You are entitled to your opinions on the
site. I respect them, and I carefully read peoples opinions and use them as a
gauge to see how I might be coming across to people.
From e-mails that I have received, people
are getting all sorts of things out of WayDale. The response has been
overwhelmingly positive.
The intent of the site is not to be
negative, accusative or vicious. I have tried hard to keep the content on as
even a keel as I can manage. I purposefully try to write articles that are as
unslanted and as non biased as I can make them. I have 20 + years of
involvement with TWI and so the job of remaining unslanted can be difficult at
times.
I simply want people to know what The Way
is really like. If someone wants to obtain information on The Way
International, I believe that they should know some of the real "behind
the scenes" truth of The Way and The Way trustees. Revealing this
information will oftentimes of necessity, make the site somewhat negative, but
it's a lot better to find out the truth BEFORE involvement, that find out after
10 or 20 years.
Some people ask the question about people
like me who stand against The Way and other such groups, "why don't you
just move on?" - to them I have to say that I spent more than 20 years
recruiting for The Way, convincing people that involvement in The Way and their
activities was beneficial. The least that I can now do is spend a small portion
of time trying to help people see the truth and the danger of this group.
The Way are still lying to people. They
are still deceiving people. They are still manipulating people. They are still
enslaving people in bondage and oppression.
Should I move on? or should I sound the
alarm? I will eventually move on, but not yet.
Anyway, forgive my ranting, but I do hope
that this helps you better understand where WayDale is coming from and what it
hopes to offer people. We do not pretend to offer people doctrine or theology
or recovery from abusive churches - we simply offer people "insider"
information on The Way, information that The Way trustees never intended for
the general public to see.
I will re-print the sentiments from the
WayDale opening page:
"Welcome to The WayDale archive of
documents. These documents offer a glimpse into The Way International. A
glimpse that The Way trustees would rather that you didn't take. At WayDale,
you will see some of what lies behind the elegantly manicured grounds of The
Way International and read and hear for yourself the things that its president
L. Craig Martindale intended only for the elite Way Corps to hear and read. We
hope that this growing collection of memos, audio clips and other Way Corps
"insider" documents will serve to educate you and enlighten you as to
the true nature of The Way International and its Board of Trustees - L. Craig
Martindale, Rosalie Rivenbark and John Reynolds."
Thanks for taking the time to read this,
ex-twi - WayDale author
P.S. Is your e-mail boswell3@webtv.net or boswell1@webtv.net? You have a different
address on each of your posts. I wanted to help clarify the matter in case
someone wanted to e-mail you privately.
GREG
BOSWELL - 06/17/99 12:27:07
My Email:BOSWELL1@WEBTV.NET
Comments:
The person who responded to my letter with no name sounds like just the kind of
person I was describing in my letter, "ha" sorry I offended you....
You can't study a conterfeit dollar and expect to find the truth without first
knowing what a real dollar looks like , I therefore choose to study Gods word
instead of the errors of a ministry. My choice right ?!?! Now we need to be
polite in this guestbook so if you have something Godly to say.. e-mail me
otherwise I hope you learn the truth as in " THY WORD IS TRUTH ..."
In His Steps .....GB
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06/16/99 17:44:30
Comments:
As opposed to Mr. Boswell who believes that all the evil works of TWI should
never be told, this site serves a useful purpose in uncovering the evil of TWI.
As opposed to Mr. Boswell, editing out peoples posts would be doing the same as
TWI does...squelching thinking. Is it not possible for someone with wrong
doctrine to learn from the responses to their posts. Maybe even Mr. Boswell
could learn something. Keep up the good work. The work you do on the website is
very good.
GREG
BOSWELL - 06/16/99 11:44:55
My Email:BOSWELL3@WEBTV.NET
Comments:
Your site is interesting to say the least, but a little too negative for my
taste and I often wonder what the profit is ???? As I recall king David never
laid a hand on Saul (1 SAM. 26;23 ) and we know how screw up saul was..... I
PERSONALLY WOULD NOT HA E KNOWN ENOUGH ABOUT GODS WORD TO RUB 2 NICKELS TOGETHER
IF IT WEREN'T FOR THE WORD I LEARNED IN P.F.A.L. AND THE EARLY WAY MINISTRY
DAYS.....I am forevery thankful for those days !!! Yet I've read in your site
letter's from cult activists, people who bel eve in the trinity, unbelievers,
etc. those people have never been to a twig fellowship ?? they don't belong on
here and should be edit, what right do they have talking about something they
know nothing about ?? I'll pray for them just as I still do for T W.I. I would
suggest that you monitor your chat room a little more so that you don't just
attract way critics and religious folks .... Hey I am still endeavoring to live
the priciples I was taught from P.F.A.L. because as I search the church's the
radio s ations and t.v. I've found they have very little to ofter when it comes
to rightly dividing the word of truth ( 2 TIM 2;15 ) ! In His Steps, Greg
...W.O.W. VET. 17 th WAY
CORP... 1980 ~~ 89 was on staff 86-88 " { P.S. REV. TOWNSEND AND REV.
CUMMINS ARE DOING FINE ......
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