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That's a good question, and an original question. So I did a little digging. Here's what we have: The thread "VP's visit to India" discusses this. https://www.greasespotcafe.com/ipb/topic/23050-vps-visit-to-india/page/2/ "When wierwille went to India......he was propped in front of church groups, the Hindu convention, dignitaries by Dr. I.S. Williams. It was Williams who OPENED all the doors for wierwille to speak. And, when wierwille left India he "designated" Williams to continue to oversee his (vp's) work.....of which, Williams did NOT accept." "Most likely williams opened doors for vpw so that he could use vp as his puppet. They could show off an American who was spouting the same anti-colonial line many Indians were using. VP was getting fed a line and used and didn't know it. I'm sure it stroked his ego to be the lone voice of "truth" over "tradition." " "I got hold of a copy of Dilemma of Foreign Missions in India shortly after I disassociated from TWI in 1986/'87, and was horrified to see how closely the Corps training duplicated the practices Wierwille decried in Dilemma." "Like Dilemma, most of VP's "books" were transcribed sermons he gave, a method which captured his sloppy, extreme, offhanded, and inaccurate manner." "There were some incidents concerning vpw's visit to India that we've discussed before. There's what vpw SAID, and what HAPPENED. For example, vpw said something about there never before having been a minister who traveled there with his whole family- saying he was the first. Supposing there were none before him, he wasn't the first because he left his youngest son separated from his entire nuclear family for several months when he was tiny. vpw also claimed he had entre to all sorts of things there. This is true. His host, Dr Williams, had entre and walked vpw through everything. vpw responded by swallowing Williams' line of talk about missionaries- which vpw later spoke on and had someone transcribe into "his book" "The Dilemna of Foreign Missions." vpw claimed that his entre into things all over India was the result of some miraculous healing he performed. The truth is that Dr Williams opened all the doors- as Mrs W's account clearly stated in her book. vpw told us all that it was all because he supposedly was standing on the back of a train as it was preparing to pull out, and there was a man with a withered arm there, who was not a Christian. He asked the man if he wanted vpw to pray for him and if he believed he would be healed if vpw prayed for him. The man supposedly replied 'yes' to both, but was clear he did not believe in Jesus. vpw supposedly prayed and the man received a miracle of healing, his arm suddenly becoming whole and strong in a few seconds, just as the train was pulling out. Supposedly, vpw was shouting to him about him receiving his healing in the name of Jesus. Then someone came up to vpw on the train, said he was representing some official who saw the entire incident that happened back there, and was responding to such a healing, gave him the keys to his city, and said the doors to "the East" would always be open to him as a result. Mrs W's account of the train incident said he was asked to perform a special blessing for the people there, Christian and non, and he prayed publickly. Then a man came up on the train and said he represented an official who saw the prayer, and was impressed a Christian minister would pray for non-Christians. Later, Dr Williams arranged for vpw to get a key to a city and speak at the convention. Mrs W's account skips this entire supposed miracle. No surprise, since a poster who knew her and saw her notes said there was no such miracle in her notes of the time. The entire supposed incident was ridiculous, and cinematic. vpw supposedly is on the back of a train, and is permitted to hang off the back as it's prepared to move, and a crowd is allowed to surround the back of the train. As the train begins to pull out, vpw is in physical contact with someone on the ground, and the train is beginning regardless. Furthermore, he's with NO support, standing at the back of a train, bent over the back as it's moving, and he is immune to the laws of inertia and general physics because he's shouting slogans rather than struggling to stay onboard a train. So he obviously lied about what happened, and Mrs W refused to include that lie in her notes and in her book. An interesting side-note is that one poster who knew her claimed she pointed to a man in photos and said that was the man- but there's no such account in her notes and her OFFICIAL accout of what happened skipped over it. Does that mean she told ONE person the truth, and hid the truth from the rest-who wanted to believe it? Or did she lie to one person and tell the truth to everyone else even though it would have been easier to just give the lie they expected? I think we all would draw the same conclusions." Some threads that discussed related points: https://www.greasespotcafe.com/ipb/topic/16710-wierwilles-stories-in-pfal/ https://www.greasespotcafe.com/ipb/topic/13609-the-indian-that-was-healed-on-the-train-by-vp/ https://www.greasespotcafe.com/ipb/topic/21689-keys-to-the-city/ "Wierwille's stories in pfal." "The Indiand that was healed on the train by vp." "Keys to the city." =============================== We get that vpw dragged his family along- except for JP- to India for months. We get that his denomination seemed to be against it, and made it clear he was not being sent as a spokesperson who could speak for them. But why was he so insistent on going? Looking at it right now, it looks like Mr "I want to be special and have special knowledge" got played by Dw Williams and those who played ball with him. vpw wasn't very intelligent. If they were playing him and offering secret knowledge and entre, he would go along. (He's not the only one- it's been said that, if you put a velvet rope in front of a toilet, people would begin lining up for it. ) That's why HE went. Why was it so important to bring his family? I have NO idea. Anyone got anything?

Steve......I, respectfully, disagree. Was I the only one in twi who endeavored to live the Scriptures? who wanted my mediator and lord to guide my way? who desired to praise the Lord God in song and worship? who was daily humbled that my savior saved a wretch like me? Yes, year after year.....wierwille's twi was shown to have been led astray. That is perfectly clear. But I remember those mid-70s when twi's songbook was filled with Jesus, and Christ, and "Lord I believe" songs. A time when prison outreach and hospital visits were more common. A time when helping neighbors and others was the christian way of doing things. Yet, twi ramped up into cult-mode as wierwille built his corps-cloning factory. Maybe it was just me.....living in an "alternate universe," but I have several times testified of answers to prayer, healings, and that still small voice of God on dozens of occasions. Specific results! And, it wasn't the formulaic methods of twi that I applied.....it was simply walking with God. Listening humbly. Having an open heart. Willing to help. Maybe that walking in love, walking in light, walking circumspectly (in Ephesians) is more pertinent that those "sixteen keys?" /sarc Without talking about wierwille and his filth.......I know what was in my heart those years. More than anything, I wanted to be a vessel for the Lord's purposes. I wanted to see HIM glorified. I desired with my whole being to submit as one of Christ's disciples and see how "loaves and fishes" could be multiplied to feed thousands. And, healing.....to pray with those who were burdened and witness God's healing power instantaneously! I know, I know.....why did I stay so long in twi? It's complicated. But, I do think that there were hundreds, if not thousands, like me who desired this to.......until the indoctrination of their wierwille-droning talking points drowned out the motives of one's heart. Maybe I am totally wrong on this. Guess it doesn't really matter now. Anyhoo.......this is off-topic, isn't it? :B)