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The Holy Spirit is a being, a part of God (as best I can see it). God cannot be "operated" by men, the real living God shapes men and is not shaped by them. To meet Him is the end of all religion and morality. The Holy Spirit is the witness to God when He speaks and our comfort is knowing that we hear Him and not another voice or spirit. Carol Carol@hisbodylife.com

Cool Waters, As someone that is not involved at all with TWI, I am curious as to what danger or threat they would have promised to you to get compliance with things? I read this thread with horror that men do these things, though I am old enough to know the ways of this world and how ugly they are. My heart goes out to you and to all whom TWI has hurt. I see that by their actions they have done the work of the devil - to blaspheme the name, power and love of God so that people hestitate to approach the living God, who is truly a God of love and not of these evil things. Also, in their work to spead fear and burden, they do the work of evil, for in God there is no fear, but love. Carol Carol@hisbodylife.com

I have been a dog breeder and trainer for many years... and my mother was an obedience instructor. Modern dog training methods are based on positive reinforcement, with the rare mild punishment when truly necessary. However... that said, and my two kids grown, I see how the Lord raises His children - the Law is for the unruly, my flesh is overlooked, except when it joins with spirit in rebellion, then He speaks. Today I would want to bring the same freedom and love to my children (and now grandchild) that the Lord has shown me. He does not punish me for being human or foolish, He corrects me (as you correct the course of a boat) when I stray from the things He has given me. His corrections always bring me greater peace and freedom, they are not to put me into bondage. The only way I would be under death or bondage is if I truly turned away from Him in my heart and chose that for myself, knowing what I was doing... I pray that I am never that crazy. My salvation and my shaping by the Lord are a thing of joy, of love, He doesn't beat me, why would I want to beat those I love? I read the things posted about TWI and I am appalled at the way they treat people. That is not God. Carol