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I read Mr. Maffits letter and I have some of the same experiences with them. Mr. Maffit said many people who tell them something is wrong are pushed out of the way, not listened to, or told they are wrong or are thinking evil, argued with, or verbally assulted. I agree. Mr. Maffit said The Board is arrogant, and they act as if they can do no wrong. I agree. Mr. Maffit said Many of the things I mentioned in the first paragraph were happening then, such as what happened to the Stones and Carlsons, who were pushed out of the way with no explanation given to people. I agree. Mr. Maffit said Why do we only have four Board members (two of whom are married) when back in 2001 the plan was to have a larger Board? I agree. Mr. Maffit said For many years I (and many others) have seen the Board become an ever more arrogant clique. I agree. Mr. Maffit said Dan's January teaching of the month seemed like an assault on John Lynn-my personal opinion. I agree. Mr. Maffit said We need a board that is accountable to someone, with some sort of checks and balances. I agree. Mr. Maffit said We also need much more financial accounting to our supporters. I agree. Mr. Maffit said We came to an impasse when JWS (John Schoenheit) told me Sue(Carlson/John's sister)had left staff and the ministry of her own free will, which totally floored me, as all I have ever heard was she was fired. He said JAL, Sue, and others wanted "a Board over a Board" of the corporation. I said no, they just wanted accountability. He insisted Sue had quit, so after the call I called Sue and she told me she has the letter of termination. She and Dave stopped their involvement in the ministry after that because they knew they were not wanted. I agree and know that what Mr. Maffit has said here is true. Mr. Maffit said He told me to call the council of elders. Who are the council of elders? I have never heard of them? Does anyone know who they are? Mr. Maffit said We feel your pushing John Lynn out the door is causing division. I agree. Mr Maffit said That is not the only thing we would like to say, but because of my experience with you shows me that it will fall on deaf ears, we will forego any more comments. I agree.

Nothing going on at this time because Mark Graeser has no case.

Tzaia says, "It's been two years since I've stepped in the office or had any involvement in the ministry." Remember several people have posted of changes, both in office administration and people, in the 2006 year.

I am very discouraged with my present involvement with STFI. If Mark G causes more issues with SFTI after he is removed from office next week we will probably cease our involvement with that organization. For those in STFI who do not like it that people post anonymously should realize there is a reason. We are concerned that certain other people in STFI will not like our opinion and we have seen what has happened to others who have previously voiced their opinion like St*ne, Carl*on and many others. I am not surprised that the current strife has reached this point. When you set up a prophetic council so you as an individual are not accountable for your false prophecies (Karen G) there will be issues. When you believe that prophecies do not have to be 100% accurate to be from God it gives the "head" of the council a way to say what they want without being accountable for "prophecy" that does not come true. Even though the "prophecy" had a negative result on the people receiving it. What about those people? Where is the accountability SFTI is supposed to have or say they have? The prophecy issue has always been there. It reached the current strife level because several board members had negative prophecy against them by TR and KG. and these board members put that "prophecy" in the false prophecy catagory. The result is that many times the prophectic and the prophetic council in STFI has elevated itself over and above the standard of writings in the Bible. Throw in their sometimes false intrepretation of dreams that is way out of balance and you have the current chaos.

Hi Socks. When I mentioned in my post "Have they hired attorneys? That should concern most of you that support CES." My comments have nothing to do with personal prophecy. My comments are directed toward the possibility the Board will split CES over their disagreements. If they have hired attorneys, that means they are looking for a legal solution and not a biblical solution. The legal solution does not usually work out the best for the people who support the organization and means someone is rejecting the biblical answer.

What is going on with CES? That is what most of the people that support their organization want to know. It is a sad state of affairs when the people on Greasespot know more about whats going on in CES than the people who are in CES. Why have they sent out letters to certain "members" and then other "members" do not get these same letters? Why would certain members of the Board do this if they were not planning to break up the organization or checking to see what kind of support there is for a possible break up? Here is my advice. IMMEDIATELY STOP SENDING THEM MONEY! This is where you have power at the present time. If the money stops coming in, they will not be able to run the organization they are in the process of running into the ground. Running it into the ground is what I see happening. I find it interesting that the Board did not seem to be concerned about personal prophecy and how it was ruining people especially from K. Gra*ser, until some of the personal prophecy was directed against them.There are many people who have been hurt by this wrong teaching. If you get a negative personal prophecy from K. Gra*ser who do you go to if you know it is not true? Get on K. Gra*ser bad side, you should pack your bags and get out of CES. Want proof of this ask anyone recently fired from the office. Have they hired attorneys? That should concern most of you that support CES.