Siouxzahn

Combination, carbohydrates are fruits, starches, starchy vegetables (peas, corn) and anything with sugar basically. Atkins is a fabulous diet and it seems to work best for men. Women too, don't get me wrong, but men seem to lose weight so easily, don't they?? It's all that muscle mass and those heavy skeletons they walk around with! On Atkins you eat to your heart's content on beef, fish, eggs, chicken, pork, cheese, nuts, green (mostly leafy) vegetables, tomatoes, butter - things like that. And plenty of water and enzymes and fish oils. Enjoy. :)

Oh Nero, I do like your style. I just read this entire thread and enjoyed it immensely. But this post was the topper.

Hello Roy, and thanks for your heartfelt, somewhat poetic account of how many, many little treasures come to be on this earth for us to love. So many of your stories practically break my heart to read but I always read them. Love back at you Roy - I know it's a-comin' from you! ~~~~~

Been awhile, Starbird, how've you been? It's good to see you! :)

Mister P-Mosh I realize I entitled this thread "Secondhand smoke kills so many people" then referred to heart and lung disease; so you have every right to assume that all of my complaints about having to smell or breathe cigarette smoke are about being concerned about getting some disease. But that is not the case; I apparently ran two thoughts together - I just don't like the smell, and I was saying it's everywhere I go. So in that case, it's not laughable that I would mind smelling the smoke even if I am in traffic where odorless toxic emissions are present. Different things bother different people. Does anything in your environment bother you? Maybe noise pollution?

mstar, how terrifying! I'm so glad it ended all right. How big are those pills? I'm just curious.

Ha ha.... You guys are great on this board. This is the best board I've personally ever seen. Love the responses! The kind ones, the angry ones, the appeal-to-reason ones, the comparisons. I know smoking is a very touchy issue and I'm really not the controlling type. Any addiction feels close to impossible to control, let alone give up, whether it's food, alcohol, or drugs; in this case, nicotine. They're all about the same to my way of thinking. But I agree with those who have commented on the horrors of certain chemicals and colognes. I'm really grateful that people seem to wear so much less cologne and perfume these days, at least in the places I go. I'm far less sensitive to chemicals and specifically colognes than I used to be but when you're sensitive to them it really makes you feel sick to be around them.

Here's another link for you Jim, as you requested. http://quitsmoking.about.com/cs/secondhand...ndhandsmoke.htm Thanks. :)

Oh, sure Jim, coming right up. :) Here's one for starters American Lung Association Here's an excerpt from above link: August 2006 Secondhand smoke, also know as environmental tobacco smoke (ETS), is a mixture of the smoke given off by the burning end of a cigarette, pipe or cigar and the smoke exhaled from the lungs of smokers. It is involuntarily inhaled by nonsmokers, lingers in the air hours after cigarettes have been extinguished and can cause or exacerbate a wide range of adverse health effects, including cancer, respiratory infections, and asthma.1

I was trying to compare the statistics between drunk driving related deaths/injuries and secondhand smoke related deaths and illnesses. Sadly the statistics are very high for both. I feel very strongly about secondhand smoke being forced on nonsmokers everywhere you go, from early morning till into the night sometimes. Not continuous, but the nasty stuff is everywhere I go. I leave the house in the morning early to the stench of someone's smoke coming over the back wall while they smoke on their back patio, evidently to avoid having the poisonous stuff in their own homes. So they share it with me instead. I come home in the evening and as I walk up the walk I have to breathe the same neighbor's secondhand smoke in the front yard, while she stands in her driveway, again so as not to pollute her own home. I sit in traffic and have to close my windows and turn off my vent because the cigarette smoke from the driver in front of me comes right in my car. Many tens of thousands of nonsmokers die annually from heart and/or lung disease from breathing secondhand smoke. I was just wondering if more die from this or more from drunk drivers. I think it might be from the drunk drivers. Couldn't manage the statistics in my search as I would have liked.

No problem at all dmiller. I agree, for people's own good when they're in dangerous destructive behavior, they need to be hit where they feel it the most, whatever will really sink in, and make them stop.

mstar1 I agree 100%. In too many places the jails are simply overfull, overburdened, and underfunded. It shows that these types of social ills need to be addressed in other ways, before or even after it gets to the point of being sentenced to jail. As in rehab, counseling, therapy, nutrition, community, etc. LOVE, and money, properly directed, can be very powerful for good I think.

Thank you Roy...it is sad to be treated that way, especially revolting that it be done in the name of the Savior Christ. templelady, that is amazing: Wonderfully mature and loving! Yet LDS are also considered a cult by many. Very interesting.

On another board, a member informed the board that he had been sentenced to 2 weeks in jail for driving 105 on an open highway at 3 in the morning, under the influence. He's also confided that he's had 2 previous DUI's, but because his first DUI conviction was 4 years and 9 months ago, it's no longer on his record and so this 3rd violation is legally considered his 2nd at this time. He has also reported to us that on his very first DUI nearly 5 years ago he blew a .09, with .08 the legal limit. So we were somewhat counting down the days, some with malice, some with ambivalence, some with empathy. So when the day arrived that he was to go in, possibly the next day, he posted that it turned out he didn't have to go to jail. No reason was supplied to the board. No one knows him well on the board, just a slight acquaintance; we only know what he has told us of himself. He's pretty open about his vices if you will, that he drinks heavily and often, and he is admittedly a very coarse young guy. The board itself is pretty coarse as a rule, so it's not so unusual that he's a member, and it's a censorship free board. So now here come all the responses. Some rejoice with him, or on their own as it turns out, as his post didn't really have any sound of rejoicing in it. Certainly no gloating or boasting. Just very matter of factly stated. Some attack him for being a drunk driver and express that he deserved to go to jail for endangering the lives of others the way he does. Valid point, no question there. Others question whether going to jail for 2 weeks would cure him of his alcoholism or cure him of driving drunk again. Others say that anyone who isn't angry (that the court changed its mind about sending him to jail) is deserving of losing everyone and everything they love and should die horribly in an auto wreck with a drunk driver. You're also supposedly a person who doesn't believe people should ever receive punishment for crimes. Personally I've always detested alcoholism and drunk driving, as well as those who drive drunk. And I absolutely believe that proper punishment should be endured for crimes committed. Yet somehow, when he said the court had changed its mind and he didn't have to go to jail, my knee-jerk reaction was to be glad for him. Maybe it was a form of coddling. Odd, isn't it. So how do you feel about this subject? I'll tell you later why they decided not to send him to jail.

Purpose Of Spanish Inquisition - What Was It? edited to include quotes and original url: http://www.top-tour-of-spain.com/Purpose-O...nquisition.html Mind-boggling! Supposedly only about 3000-5000 were actually put to death through the Spanish Inquisition specifically, and for that relatively small number Spain and the Spanish (Catholic) Church want to be better thought of than they have been, since during the same time period, some 150,000 were put to death across Europe for heresy and witchcraft.... It's also been pointed out that greed was also involved in many of the deaths, since the Inquisitors were encouraged to find heretics and witches by offering the Inquisitors the spoils from the victims. Ahhhh, religion.... Christianity, Catholicism over the centuries. So loving and sweet, kind and forgiving. At least those who were repentant were allowed to be burned only after they killed them. What's your take on all this?