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  1. Thanks skyrider. As I peruse different stories, read Leaving the Way and Undertow, I feel very lucky that my involvement was comparatively superficial before I got out. I had just returned from my WOW year and was heading to the Way Corps myself. I had been involved in twi, in a significant way, for about 3 and a half years at that point, and after reading various accounts, it seems that the real abuse (all varieties) and oppression occurred to folks in the Corps and at HQ--those of us out in the world just went to our day jobs, and twig and witnessed, blissfully unaware of the hardships and problems at HQ--and of course we would not have known about the research discrepancies by the research department since that was covered up. Coming in from WOW to the ROA 1982, I was chosen by my branch leader to go on stage during an evening meeting in the big top with two other WOWs to do an interpretation or prophecy, depending on what VPW requested--like we would do at a twig meeting--but in front of all those people. After the meeting, I was approached by my prior Limb leader and other Corps members about how exciting it was to be chosen to do this, based on my loyalty, yada yada. Three days later, I was in the deprogramming, and left twi before joining the Corps, which I was scheduled to start the following month. I now feel like I dodged a bullet, and while the whole experience was very difficult for me in its own way, it really paled in comparison to some of the stories I have been reading about. I am grateful for the deprogramming, as I am not sure I would have left on my own, but who knows, seems like that is right around the time VPW stepped down and things really started hitting the fan--perhaps I would have joined the many who left after seeing all of the problems. At any rate, thank you again for sharing your story.
  2. I am sure that nun's wading pool area is what I am thinking about. That is what I couldn't recall, if it was a maze, or just nicely landscaped. I was deep into twi at the time and was only at that location once--perhaps, looking back now, I just "felt" like I was lost in a maze...... And your signature---eiubmard…redrum…eiubmard…redrum-- HILARIOUS!- Thank you so much for responding!
  3. Hello all Sandra Brown had been in one of the early Corp, I want to say 5, 6, 7 something like that, I think She was stationed in Lansing Michigan and ran a Way Home that I lived in 1979-81 and she "sheparded" me from PFAL on. She also hooked up with a guy named Paul Peoples, and I THINK they got married at some point, and he enlisted in the Corps, but I had gone WOW and lost track. Does anyone know what happened to these two?
  4. Here is another one I am trying to recall. I think there was a hedge maze on the grounds of the Rome City location, but I am uncertain. Perhaps I am confusing this with The Shining.........a different horror experience. I went to Rome City only once, to take the advanced class (the original one) in 1980--looooong time ago Trying to recall fact from fiction in my mind-- Anyone remember this?
  5. Also, I presume that strip bark is a lot cheaper than lumber........just sayin'
  6. Skyrider, Just now reading this wonderful thread. I was searching the site for "deprograming" and found your story. I was also deprogrammed, but it was considered "voluntary" in that I was free to go at any time and it took place at my parent's house--so it was more of an intervention, I guess. A prior TWI member who is now a minister and handled talking about the inaccuracies of PFAL, a former TWI member who had recently left the way, and a counselor type person. I recall the exact moment when it hit me that twi is a cult--Lifton's book was on the dining room table and was open to the 8 steps of brainwashing. I happened to walk by during a break, and read the one that described "Loaded Language" ---a light bulb went off and I was out. I ended up spending 5 weeks at the half way house in Iowa City that you described. Question: when you realized that it was time to leave, I see that it was due to the then current events. I was wondering if part of how you got to that point had to do with what you were told during your deprogramming, or did the discussion during the deprograming have no effect? Thank you so much for sharing your story.
  7. House of his Healing Presence! Yes, that's it! Thank you! As an aside, I read Losing the Way a couple of years ago, and recently Undertow. Prompted me to come back to this site and learn more. So glad GSC is still active, its really a goldmine of information and so helpful. It has been about 40 years since I left, give or take, but I still find myself thinking back and I really appreciate that this site, and you all, are here and active.
  8. Hello all. I left in the Fall of 1982 just after the ROA. Just read Undertow and it brought back a lot of memories. I am racking my brain trying to remember what they called that little cabin in the woods that members could go to during the Rock to quietly meditate and “SIT.” Does anyone remember this? Thanks in advance.
  9. Just saw this, read the first chapter and bought the book. Really intrigued to read it. I was in for about 4 years only, and got out right after ROA 1982. So your account should bring back memories as I was in when you were. Thanks for sharing your story.
  10. Speaking of 7th grade, vanilla, drivel and boredom, have you seen the twi website lately? Its all cartoons and looks like it is geared toward children...........um......uh,oh.......
  11. Can't help but notice that papertrained hasn't responded since his first post. Hope he finds the answer he is looking for......
  12. Agree with the above, except that I don't mind 'splainin' myself, since that is what I like about Forums at any site. People discussing whatever post they want to discuss. If the originator of this post really wants to know the answer to his or her question, sounds like the answer is complicated, like each person here is complicated and like Life is complicated. If the originator of this post wants a quick and easy answer, then maybe he or she is not fully "out" of the cult mindset, yes? If the originator of this post is just trolling and attacking, then hell with him/her.....
  13. I can't speak for everyone else, but this is such a timely question for me--I have been wondering the same thing about myself. I got out in 1981, almost 30 years ago. I had a rough recovery period, lots of therapy, and have done very very well for myself since them. A couple of years ago, I found this site and spent a little time reviewing the various documents, and other pieces of information. So much happened in twi after I left and I found it fascinating. I got really turned off to this site at that time (no offense to anyone here) because I happened on a thread with a lot of bickering and debating about what the "Word" said about some topic. It kind of gave me the chills, because it had the same tenor as The Way when it challenged and debated the "Word" by citing scripture, etc. It felt to me like at least those particular posters had not gotten "out" completely as they had the same cult personality they developed in twi. Again, no offense intended at all, it was just my reaction. I am now back after a couple of years, with a new fascination as to why I joined twi, and I am asking myself What am I Doing Here?? The same question as the original post. I can't get my head around it, I just know that I want to read and read and read, not at all about spiritual matters, but about twi itself and how I got sucked in to begin with, I guess. I am still trying to understand how it happened? I am not sure what this is about, but I can tell you that I have worked hard in my recovery over many years, and perhaps this is the next step--previously I focused on learning about reality, decision making, self esteem, confidence, repairing my career and finding a whole new life. I spent several of those years not thinking twice about twi and simply living my life. Now, perhaps, after accomplishing these things, I am ready to come face to face with your question, at long last. I found K.S.'s Losing the Way to be compelling and very helpful. Thank you for that, K.S. My 2 cents.
  14. Thanks for your responses y'all---I just re-read my post-- kinda heavy -- sorry about that. I just don't understand why I am so engrossed in my Way Days (daze) all of a sudden after all this time, and here I am yacking like I just escaped. Thank you for your patience and tolerance.....
  15. Thanks Groucho. I joined awhile ago, forgot about it. Then like I said, the Jonestown thing got me thinking, so now I am back. Its hard. I thought it was all behind me long ago, but still, I am working through trying to figure it all out, I guess. It helps to post, no doubt
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