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(by the way, the original stories are in Portuguese) Original link from correiodoestado.com.br (translated text) A former religious leader sentenced (charged) to 59 sex offenders in the United States, was discharged from the ICU of the Regional Hospital in Campo Grande. He will be taken to a ward and will continue to escort the Federal Police. Victor Arden Barnard, 60, is being held in the Federal Penitentiary of Campo Grande on Saturday (14) attempted suicide by hanging. He was admitted to the HR early Sunday morning (15) in serious condition and doctors came to see that he had a lack of oxygen framework in the brain. Three days after being admitted to the ICU, he has improved and his health condition is stable, according to medical bulletin of the Regional Hospital. Because of the attempted hanging, Victor Barnard has a trauma to the larynx. EDIT NOTE: Victor Barnard is 54 I am pretty sure, not 60 as the article says. His age reported in news articles there have always been a bit mixed up.

A few more details in this article Campo Grand News (translated)

Victor Barnard attempted suicide in his prison cell in Brazil. Please see the link in the pinned post here: Link to Victor Barnard thread

UPDATE NOVEMBER 2015 Victor Barnard attempted suicide this week in the prison at Campo Grande in Mato Grosso do Sul, Brazil. He was taken to the hospital under guard and was in ICU. The original article (in Portuguese): Cult leader in the US is in HRMS after attempting suicide in Federal Prison The Google translated page: Google Translation

Outandabout- No there is not, but I sent you some ideas that may work for you. Please check your private messages.

Personal attacks against other posters here at GSC are in violation of the rules. Please try personal messages to understand each other if needed.

We are not going to return to political discussion at GSC. There are many venues where you can take this discussion, and even discuss it with TWI or exTWI folks. This is not one of those places. Thank you for remembering.

Most people here do not understand your acronym of REV. I understand your military background uses them for everything, but a little clarity would help others. Also, if you are on Facebook, there are several forums you can find where people (exTWI and current alike) like to discuss Biblical version "truths or fictions". That might be more inline with your interest. Just start searching names of people you knew or heard of who taught in TWI and you will find them rather easily.

I recognize you, MRAP, are new to the forums and I urge that you make quick progress to learn what is considered appropriate in here. The others are letting you know what is acceptable and what is not. Please take heed. We let a lot slide in here until it becomes apparent that cyber fisticuffs are near, but there are rules, and I encourage you to follow them as a start. In addition to rules there are certain nuances of the way people say things that are not met with pleasantries. You have now been formally made aware. Here is a link- http://www.greasespo...tion=boardrules also, please check your private messages for an explanation regarding a specific issue.

Here are 4 or 5 segments from the show today- My Father Offered Me as a Maiden

John Walsh may have more to report on August 24th- Possible sighting on Tuesday 8/13/2014 http://www.king5.com...-271160401.html

Victor Barnard will be featured on "The Hunt With John Walsh" on CNN soon according to recent previews.

Here is the actual legal complaint and charges. Scroll past thelegal terminology of the 59 counts if you want,, and read the Statement of Probable Cause towards the bottom. http://www.scribd.com/doc/218969646/Barnard-Complaint

For those who asked, it has been confirmed both Karl and Barnard were 14th Corps,

and another updated video with an interview of Karl Kahler today- http://www.myfoxtwincities.com/clip/10066513/the-history-of-victor-barnard

Here are links to several of the other older discussions about this predator: http://www.greasespotcafe.com/ipb/topic/20312-river-road-fellowship-in-finlayson-minnesota/ AND: http://www.greasespo...shared-it-here/ AND: http://www.greasespo...20477-my-story/

BUMPING this to the top because of the recent felony charges that have been filed against Victor Barnard: http://www.greasespo...victor-barnard/

LOL, I guess I did word that a bit oddly. I guess technically everyone's posting privileges were gone, but none of those with moderated restrictions had anything to do with the 2/3 day layoff of the forums and I had nothing to do with getting it back up. I was mostly saying that I could not lift those restrictions while the forum was down so I did when it came back online. Maybe that clarifies it, maybe not, but it is more than enough said from me on it. :)

Now that the forums are back up again, I have restored everyone's posting privileges. Please post responsibly everyone.

EVERYONE- please return to the original topic of this thread

thanks for posting this Bluzeman. I have seen it on Sophos and a few other "heads up" sites as well.

Year2027- you had turned it off. I turned it back on for you. It should be working now.

Ok, I have had this thread shut down for a time this morning while I reviewed it. I have made a few edits in various posts which either were rule violations, references to those posts, or for clarity after being edited. I respect that the participants feel strongly regarding the topic and it seems that you all wish to continue discussing these scriptures, HOWEVER I have no interest, nor do I desire to spend time in babysitting posters who cannot refrain from pulling out swords on each other when a considerate argument could be presented using a keyboard. There were multiple people in violation in this regard. You all have demonstrated your abilities to present reasonable and considerate arguments to each other. Please keep doing so. I spent an hour or more of my time on this today in order to try and allow the topic to continue. I will NOT do so again. Further rule violations such as namecalling, personal characterizations, accusations about lying etc will simply be deleted and the offender will be suspended for a minimum of 3 days. If you disagree with my edits, you can PM me, but I did the best I could to leave the topical arguments intact. Your view may vary about how successful I was, but I made every effort on both sides to do so. Trust me, I have no opinion one way or the other regarding any side of this topic and my edits were directed only to rule violations.

alright, I looked over things. Raf you were over the line with accusations of a personal nature in the SIT thread. As you have publicly acknowledged you should have walked away a bit and cooled down. Mods are granted no special permissions when it comes to the rules. You didn't walk away, oh well. Since the original thread has been a long and ongoing discussion and also since it looks to me that the parties who could have been most offended by what you did apparently are willing to move on, Let's drop it. I will increase your Warn Status to make note of this offense. I can confirm that ModCat5 did ask for assistance in how to cool things down, Since we do not monitor this place 24/7 his request went unread and he took what action he felt was warranted, partially at least to cool himself down. Moderators should NEVER use their abilities on threads where they are a primary participant. I looked through the moderator logs and do not find where he edited any posts of anybody else. That said, please (everyone) abide by the rules. If you are getting heated, wait awhile and reread your post before submitting it.

Raf- I also am cautioning you against making assumptions and statements about a poster's need for medical psychiatric care.as you did in the other thread (which I have removed). You know that is against the rules.