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    Victor Barnard pleads guilty

    in Out of the Way: The Offshoots

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    Lindsay Mom Peggy and sister Lacey moved back to Pennsylvania from Washington State last fall.  Victoria moved last spring back to Pennsylvania from MN  (with her 3 kids and Husband David) and is living with her father Carmen

      go to 3:44 mark and see Peggy and Lacey and Victoria dancing to Carmen band

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    Accused sex predator Victor Barnard — a victim's story

    in Out of the Way: The Offshoots

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    On ‎10‎/‎23‎/‎2016 at 11:21 PM, HAPe4me said:

    It was widely reported in investigative reports when the charges were first brought on VB that earlier there were confrontations between Barnard and other cult officials over his sleeping with numerous married women. It almost broke up the group at that time but VB managed to convince them that he would stop.

    I am not sure where it was mentioned first that Peggy was one of those women, and it may not even have been in my reading here at Greasespot. I know that Carmen in an interview said he could not confirm it and said he had no knowledge of it.

    I believe DWBH was reciting from a report of it, not from first-hand knowledge. I know I too have seen it stated somewhere. In interviews with the victims it was made clear that once Peggy heard from Lindsay about what VB did to her Peggy rejected the story and stayed with Barnard, supposedly moving to WA with the group. 

    You might be interested in this thread from 2009 by a former member of RRF

    JeffSjo thread

    I know for a fact Peggy is still devoted to him (Victor) even after he has plead guilty.  I know Lacey (2nd oldest daughter) is still out in Spokane or Bellingham area.  I can only guess she supports him also.  It's crazy how deep seeded their thinking is for this Monster.  I feel so sorry for Lindsay, she is Isolated and going through this without her families support.  I know she has her extended family, which is wonderful, but for her own mother to deny all of this.  She says (Peggy)  "Lindsay has things confused". What a line of crap that is.

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    Victor Barnard pleads guilty

    in Out of the Way: The Offshoots

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    11 hours ago, HAPe4me said:

    Greetings Mnmom. Are you saying you think Barnard is martyring himself for the sake of his followers? It seems possible I suppose, and is one reason that has been raised by others. Perhaps their greatfulness will provide him with care packages in his new "commune".

    I note the name you used registering here. It would seem you have some Minnesota connection? Do/did you have any direct contact with River Road? Any insight which you would care to share?

    Does ANYONE reading this know the status of his cult? Who leads it now?

    Did his successor inherit the remaining maidens?

    Is there still a following up in Washington?

    i know his wife filed for divorce (a bit late no doubt). What took her this long? Perhaps the lateness had something to do with protecting assets? I am not sure if that would work successfully but it is sometimes tried.

    Not nor never have been associated with RRF or TWI.  I do have a personal connection, just trying to learn more about all this.  It still is unfolding for us.  Just would love prayers to continue handling this delicate situation.  As far as I know there are still devoted followers.  Just can't wrap my head around it.

    Accused sex predator Victor Barnard — a victim's story

    in Out of the Way: The Offshoots

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    On ‎3‎/‎30‎/‎2016 at 1:31 AM, DontWorryBeHappy said:

    The following was posted by mrap in response to the news that dictor barnard was arrested and jailed in Brazil awaiting extradition to the US for trial on 59 counts of sexual assault on a minor:

    At the time, this post was so offensive to me, that the only response I could muster was "Ugh!" Now that dictor Barnard is heading home for JUSTICE, I would like to address the incredibly offensive post plopped down here.

    Yeah So? What does that mean? TWI's rampant, institutionalized, serial sexual and spiritual abuse is just another of the many? That makes it somehow less "horrific"? Let me remind you mrap, these were not merely "horrific acts", they are horrific CRIMES with horrific damage done to human beings willfully with malice and forethought. It's not just some family secret, military coverup, or "run of the mill" clergy scandal in the Catholic Church. These are felonies times 59! The serial rape and sexual abuse of minor females was willfully perpetrated upon minor females AT LEAST 59 times over 9 years on only 2 out of 10 VICTIMS. That's right.......VICTIMS. It was done with approval and consent of the parents who had also engaged in barnard's godly adultery and wife-snatching. Tornambe's wife and his other daughter are still with the cult in WA, where they were living with barnard's wife!!

    It's "the power"! That is such a hopelessly myopic statement. IT IS PATHOLOGICAL BEHAVIOR. Mental illness or what you call "debbil spurt possession". Barnard had no "power" over these people other than that which they willingly and willfully gave him. He was no military officer or rich millionaire boss. He was and is a pathologically disturbed mentally ill individual of very little consequence outside of his cult. It DOES NOT just "hurt when it "hits home"! It hurts every single time it occurs to any innocent victim anywhere any time. It hurt Lindsay Tornambe the instant her criminal parents agreed to give her to Barnard for his use. Carmen's corpse grad spouse had already enjoyed sexual relations with her apostle, so why shouldn't her daughters?!! That was horrific criminal and pathological crime right then and there for little 13 year old Lindsay Tornambe! It's just like any other rape case. She was asking for it wasn't she? Well it ain't my daughter, is it?

    THEY SHOULD AND COULD HAVE DONE SOMETHING ABOUT IT AND DID NOT! They consented! Should they be guilt ridden? No! They should be in jail. Jallyroll lynn took a $1000 honorarium and free plane tickets to teach at RRF in the late 90's. Brad Thorpe former twit limp leader and head of HR at new Knoxville for many years was also there. Jallyroll got Barnard to take Momentus and he knew what Barnard was up to. Well.....jallyroll took the $1000, went home and never confronted Barnard! It wasn't until Barnard angrily rejected Momentus and CES theology that jallyroll cut any ties.

    It's not a matter of what YOU or we want. It is that Lindsay DESERVES JUSTICE and so does Barnard! Whether we want it or not is immaterial. What does Justice demand?? Lindsay Tornambe did not have a choice as to which "emotion" she wanted to "wallow in". She was a captive from age 13 to age 21! Don't you get that? Apparently not. She chose not to lie and play the game.She stood up for herself and justice, and isn't running around for 30 years playing the blame game like you. You have a lot to learn from her. She's not playing some whiney victim card. She sought and is obtaining PROFESSIONAL help from real doctors and lawyers and law enforcement.

    Is it a fact Peggy Tornambe slept with Victor or just a general of course they all did ??

     

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