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Hi Y'all I did want to start an interesting debate on a controversial subject. It was fun and I enjoyed seeing different points of views. Thanks I;m afraid I'll have to agree with masterherbalist. I know I need to eat, excercize and take care of my vessel better. I still have a few bad habits, but that is relative. anyways I had a great day swimming in Lake Sylvia, near Gouverneur NY. It is a pristin lake with marble rock around. Beautiful on a sunny day. I was out there swimming with a fellow steel inspector/ biker/ was pretty cool. Just paid for an apartment here because of my job and the way things are evolving and I just got hooked up on line again. Fredric Schuster

Galen that seems to be an honest study from a student of the Bible. I find a lot I thought to knew was "private interpretation" Fredric Schuster

Dot and Laleo I am not depressed! I said they told me I was. Me, I AMM HAPPY, HAPPY, HAPPY EVERY DAY IN EVERYWAY I AM GETTING BETTER AND BETTRER. Seriously, I think "depression" is a buzzword to sell more drugs. Wow wonder how much more money the Pzizer company (no the make viagra), or the other companies that profit off of SSRI's sales after 9/11 in the USA? Bet a lot more "depressed people about. I think greif is part of the human existence and usually is gotten through with the help of God not the insurance company. (If you don't have coverage that is like me). You KNow Elijah was really down, wonder what would have happened if he popped a pill to sort throught things. Anyways I found some sites by victims and consumors of prozac and such and there stories were not as rosie as those comming from the big pharmacy companies. Some claimed to fall in deeper depression when they tried to withdraw from them. This makes sense to me since the brain works as an equilibrium. If you continue to take anything the body compensates. Then if you take away the external stimulus the brain chemistry goes the opposite way.. down. Another buzz word is ADD. When my daughter was 7 years old the Teachers and Shrinks wanted to convince me Katrina may need some of that Ritalin (the "cure" for Attention Deficiency Syndrome.. what will they think of next... Erection Disfunction?). I think it was wise I emphatically said screw that. She is 17 years old been a B student and is very self confidently beautiful. I heard Cocaine users snort that stuff if they can't get blow. You know, life is for learning. I did not look so judgementally at others using illegal mind altering drugs, when its OK to go to "church" if you can legally take mind altering drugs. But I SAY NO TO DRUGs as much as I can. DO have an occasional drink and a smoke with it. I just had a nice peaceful breakfast with the wife I married over 25 years ago with the Way Monisteries guidance. We had just agreed our marriage isn't going to work out but lets be friends anyways. I just said lets not make some lawyers rich now. Besides we already had all our assets taken away by ususry. So life is interesting. I am begining to see resolution to the relation problem i had searched out family therapists to resolve. Sounds good to me now that our kids are just about raised and we don't have much in common (geuss it was the way ministerie beliefs) I went through a lot of greif and as I get older (one month to the half century mark) I probably will have to face more, alone...... no just me and God. I am not exhibiting the classic sysmpton nor was I. I eat, I sleep, I do other body things and I travel, collect minerals, write poetry, paint murals and make more money than ever. (you can send your abundant sharing to my new ministery.... only kidding). I am resolving things without the help of the mind changing drugs(except what I choose) and It is Me that is doing it. (All because of God's grace of course) Hey I'm OK your OK Fredric Schuster

Hi all I wanted to pose a question to see what your take is on this. I know we were told witchcraft in Galations was "pharmakeia" and the mind altering drugs even pot were condemnded by Dr Weirwille. I wonder if the Tobacco billions and Alcohol billions of dollars are not going to witchcraft? I really don't know what that word means anymore. In my personal experience I sought personal counseling from one "Church" with a family counselar, then in a Christian Yellow pages I found another family counselor, then another Christian family counselor and finally a secular one. I went to get relation ship problems within my family iron out. Instead all told me I was depressed and needed an anti-depressant. I even had on "christian" say "the insurance company would like it if I took some maintainance anti depressent... well why not pot. If the Church can accept a pharmaceutical mind altering and allegedly addictive drug to be acceptable ... namely prozac or other serotonin uptake inhibitors. If that is not anathema when you are in "church" what is wrong with being stoned in church. JUst because the Big Merc or Pfizer Company blessed things and pays of doctors and advertisers to sell... in is not longer sin? Besides who controls your moods when the only place to raise your serotonin level is from a damn pharmacy and insurance corporate run goverment dispensing pills. I read Aldous Huxley's Brave New World for a second time after my counselor I figured if I can't grow it its not going in my body! But really how do these "christians" do that pharmacy stuff so readily just because its on TV? So my question is what does the Bible really say about drugs? Fredric Schuster

We of all people should know you cannot believe all you see, hear sounds like the 5 senses ooooops. But really I find that given the tools of technology could be used for anyones profit, I don't believe so quickly Fredric Schuster

I AM WITH YOU ON THAT ONE AL! FRED Fredric Schuster