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  1. A What I meant by Normal Christian is a non CULT involved Christian.
  2. FYI BREAKTHROUGH TRAINING is the new name used instead of MOMENTUS and most of the "graduates" of this training suffer from total depression after the training and it is atributed to this training. They are the strangest people, not having a mind of their own and walk around like zombies.
  3. THE ABOVE is absolutely FALSE. They use high pressure tactics, including but not limited to: calling all day long, trying to get key people including "the pastor" from said church to coerce you into taking the training. VERY VERY cultish to say the least.
  4. Momentus Breakthrough Training attitude toward the church in general is suspicious and critical. They seem to have encountered a lot of suspicion from local churches whose members have gotten involved in Momentus. This is with good reason, I would say, and any pastor that doesn't examine their premises and practices with care is doing a disservice to the flock. They attack churches for being either "gnostic" (their code word for charismatic, experience centered) or "textualists" (a code word for doctrinally centered). While there are certainly legitimate concerns in both extremes, the impression you get from the book is that these aren't the extremes, but represent most of the American church. This last issue may reflect another part of their spiritual heritage. At least four of the many people listed in their acknowledgments are former leaders in The Way International, a cult that drew many people out of the Jesus movement. I don't want to argue that the leaders of Mashiyach are guilty by association, but the convergence of some key doctrines certainly points to that suspicion. Among the Way's key teachings that resonate with Killing the Victim are: rejection of the Trinity, a suspicion of other churches, and the idea that believing can cause things to happen.
  5. MOMENTUS attitude toward the church in general is suspicious and critical. They seem to have encountered a lot of suspicion from local churches whose members have gotten involved in Momentus. This is with good reason, I would say, and any pastor that doesn't examine their premises and practices with care is doing a disservice to the flock. They attack churches for being either "gnostic" (their code word for charismatic, experience centered) or "textualists" (a code word for doctrinally centered). While there are certainly legitimate concerns in both extremes, the impression you get from the book is that these aren't the extremes, but represent most of the American church. This last issue may reflect another part of their spiritual heritage. At least four of the many people listed in their acknowledgments are former leaders in The Way International, a cult that drew many people out of the Jesus movement. I don't want to argue that the leaders of Mashiyach are guilty by association, but the convergence of some key doctrines certainly points to that suspicion. Among the Way's key teachings that resonate with Killing the Victim are: rejection of the Trinity, a suspicion of other churches, and the idea that believing can cause things to happen.
  6. The Way International has been known as a CULT for years. It's a mind control cult. That however is apparently only obvious to a normal christian. It appears that those that have been involved in this cult have difficulty differentiating between truth and non truths.
  7. NOONE IS EVER READY TO TAKE THESE BRAINWASHING COURSES. We are made by God, we belong to God. God has the last say on any and all topics including this one. We don't need to be brainwashed for God to straighten out your life.
  8. You don't have an opinion. You are not allowed to have a brain. You've been thinking what you were brainwashed with. That's too bad that you feel that Jesus Christ cannot transform your life.
  9. Cults, cults, cults period. They are cult programs. (momentus) Altered state of Conciousness. The people that have taken this training walk around like zombies with a dazed look in their eye and this is the truth. They have no mind of their own, independent thinking is not allowed but wait, isn't that how God created us to think and make decisions, to have a free will. To choose to serve God. They do not know whether they are coming or going and their life revolves around this cultish program.
  10. SANTA ROSA CHRISTIAN CHURCH in Santa Rosa, California is one such church. It is Creepy at best. This is Dan Tocchini's home church and here they push Momentus on their members and there are many mind games that are played on unknowing people. It was a very bad experience. I went to one of their small groups and discovered most all of the people that have taken these trainings suffer from Severe Depression. I didn't really understand at first. Then when I found out what they were into, I GOT IT! Very creepy I tell you, very creepy. But there are other good Christian churches out there with normal christian people with no new age philosophies.
  11. The off shoots are still around. Dan Tocchini's home church, Santa Rosa Christian church is one such. They practice manipulation, mind games like I have never seen in my lifetime and meddle in interpersonal relationships. They hold momentus introductory meetings at the church property and try to co-oerce members into paying the 500.00 and into taking the training without offering information. When you refuse the trainings, they pretty much let everyone know that this person didn't want to be "known". Most of the members of this church suffer from serious depression episodes. The Pastor constantly refers to "Transformation" in his teachings. It is unlike anything I have ever seen. But that al being said, there are still some normal biblically based churches, we just have to look "carefully"
  12. SANTA ROSA CHRISTIAN CHURCH is one such haven if you can call it that. This is where momentus originated and for the record, it is still alive at this cult place. The people at this church have all been through this training and they are manipulative and absolutely just horrible. Dan Tocchini went to speak there one Sunday. This so called church is one big manipulative scam. They are constantly trying to scam people into taking this breakthrough training and when you refuse they claim its because you dont want to be "known" The pastor constantly refers to "Transformation" I am a long time christian and instantly knew this was not of God and left that church. They mess with interpersonal relationships and work and anything to do with your person. It iwas the absolute worst experience. Be warned they are alive and well
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