"If you are father and daughter, you may have shared the same dream."
"That is not reasonable."
"No one's believed that for countless generations. Just as we no longer believe the stars control our fates, or that the spirits of the dead haunt the living."
"According to the legends. But if Palmer is a servant of the Overseer, what was he doing in the cave?"
"The Overseer was said to be all-powerful. He could provide gentle winters, plentiful hunting, fertile crops... anything."
"Weren't there stories of the Overseer destroying those who offended him?"
"Stories. Nothing more."
"Perhaps we should punish her -- to let the Overseer know that she and Riker acted alone."
"Your own reports describe how rational these people are. Millennia ago, they abandoned all belief in the supernatural. And now you're asking me to sabotage that achievement... send them back into the Dark Ages of fear and superstition."
"It's not the season for lightning. It must be a warning..."
"Before you start quoting the Prime Directive -- he'd already seen us; the damage was done. It was bring him aboard or let him die."
"Then why didn't you let him die?"
"Because we were responsible for his injuries!"
"I don't know if I concur with that reasoning, Doctor."
"Like the Vulcans, they have highly ordered minds...A very sensible people.
For example, Mintakan women precede their mates. It's a signal to other women."
" 'This man's taken; get your own?' "
"Not precisely... More like, 'if you want his services, I'm the one to negotiate with.' "
"What kinds of 'services'?"
"All kinds."
"Ah. They are a sensible race."
"There are the stories of the Overseer... who could appear and disappear at will..."
"And couldn't this Overseer heal the dead?"
"He had supreme power -- or so our ancestors believed."
"I believe I've seen the Overseer..."
"Uh-oh..."
"He is called the Picard."
"If you are father and daughter, you may have shared the same dream."
"That is not reasonable."
"No one's believed that for countless generations. Just as we no longer believe the stars control our fates, or that the spirits of the dead haunt the living."
"I'm not saying all the old beliefs are true. But I did see the Picard, and I was restored to life."
"This Palmer is one of the Overseer's servants?"
"Yes -- the Picard has many servants. Isn't that true?"
"According to the legends. But if Palmer is a servant of the Overseer, what was he doing in the cave?"
"The Overseer was said to be all-powerful. He could provide gentle winters, plentiful hunting, fertile crops... anything."
"You've angered the Picard -- and we may all suffer for it!"
Weren't there stories of the Overseer destroying those who offended him?"
"Stories. Nothing more."
"Perhaps we should punish her -- to let the Overseer know that she and Riker acted alone."
"Your own reports describe how rational these people are. Millennia ago, they abandoned all belief in the supernatural. And now you're asking me to sabotage that achievement... send them back into the Dark Ages of fear and superstition."
"It's not the season for lightning. It must be a warning..."
I had a hunch that Picard would turn out to be whom the others thought was the Overseer, but I really don't remember this one. The name "Mintakan" rings a bell, though.
"Before you start quoting the Prime Directive -- he'd already seen us; the damage was done. It was bring him aboard or let him die."
"Then why didn't you let him die?"
"Because we were responsible for his injuries!"
"I don't know if I concur with that reasoning, Doctor."
"Like the Vulcans, they have highly ordered minds...A very sensible people.
For example, Mintakan women precede their mates. It's a signal to other women."
" 'This man's taken; get your own?' "
"Not precisely... More like, 'if you want his services, I'm the one to negotiate with.' "
"What kinds of 'services'?"
"All kinds."
"Ah. They are a sensible race."
"There are the stories of the Overseer... who could appear and disappear at will..."
"And couldn't this Overseer heal the dead?"
"He had supreme power -- or so our ancestors believed."
"I believe I've seen the Overseer..."
"Uh-oh..."
"He is called the Picard."
"If you are father and daughter, you may have shared the same dream."
"That is not reasonable."
"No one's believed that for countless generations. Just as we no longer believe the stars control our fates, or that the spirits of the dead haunt the living."
"I'm not saying all the old beliefs are true. But I did see the Picard, and I was restored to life."
"This Palmer is one of the Overseer's servants?"
"Yes -- the Picard has many servants. Isn't that true?"
"According to the legends. But if Palmer is a servant of the Overseer, what was he doing in the cave?"
"The Overseer was said to be all-powerful. He could provide gentle winters, plentiful hunting, fertile crops... anything."
"You've angered the Picard -- and we may all suffer for it!"
Weren't there stories of the Overseer destroying those who offended him?"
"Stories. Nothing more."
"Perhaps we should punish her -- to let the Overseer know that she and Riker acted alone."
"Horrifying... Dr. Barron,
Your own reports describe how rational these people are. Millennia ago, they abandoned all belief in the supernatural. And now you're asking me to sabotage that achievement... send them back into the Dark Ages of fear and superstition."
"It's not the season for lightning. It must be a warning..."
"We've had storms at this time of year before."
"Not like this one..."
"It must mean something!"
"It is beyond my power."
"Nothing is beyond your power!
You are the Overseer -- I'll prove it!"
""Dr. Barron, I cannot, I will not impose a set of commandments on these people!"
""Look at me... feel the warmth of my hand, the rhythm of my pulse. I'm not a supreme being. I'm flesh and blood, like you."
"Not like me."
"Like you. Different in appearance, yes, but we are both living beings. We are born, we grow, we live... and we die. In all the ways that matter, we are alike."
"Perhaps one day, my people will travel above the skies..."
There was an episode which began with a hidden Federation observation station (essentially, a holographic "duck blind") that lost power to its holoemitter, revealing the occupants to the local citizenry. I don't remember anything else about the episode, though.
There was an episode which began with a hidden Federation observation station (essentially, a holographic "duck blind") that lost power to its holoemitter, revealing the occupants to the local citizenry. I don't remember anything else about the episode, though.
George
Before the Enterprise could complete repairs, one scientist was injured and wandered
off, and a local saw the inside a moment then took a serious injury.
His life was saved on the Enterprise, and the attempt to erase his memories failed.
He came back, raving about a god called "the Picard" and said he was The Overseer
they used to believe in long ago (a belief in a god.)
"Who Watches the Watchers".
I find the episode fascinating for all its message.
We have a society that EXPERTS say is VERY rational and practical.
A member sees something he doesn't understand and IMMEDIATELY decides it is
a specific incident reviving belief in an Almighty.
He also leaps from "I have seen 'the Picard'" to "'The Picard' is The Overseer' "
and NOBODY calls him on it. In a matter of HOURS, people are ascribing SUPERNATURAL
significance to a mundane storm. and advocating hurting or killing people in case
it MIGHT please 'the Picard.'
We also have Picard himself saying ANY belief in ANY god will result in religious
wars and "DARK AGES." Finally, Picard all but said outright that it was better to
just let a local die from injuries accidentally caused by the Federation rather
than violate the Prime Directive.
There's quite a message in this episode.
Anyway, you go. That was at least the same episode I posted.
I'm just going to assume that no one wants to play, again (or is reticent to give an answer and not post another clue).
This was, of course, the original series episode, "The Galileo Seven." (Did you ever wonder about Kirk being elated to find that FIVE crewmembers were beamed aboard, alive and well? He doesn't even ask who the two missing crew were! What if they were McCoy and Spock -- or Scotty?)
I picked this one because IDW Comics, who have had the rights to ST properties for the last few years, have started a series based on OS episodes, but using the "new" timeline of the recent movie. The last two issues were from "The Galileo Seven." In case anyone who isn't reading those issues now plans to go back and catch up (there are only four issues so far), here is a SPOILER ALERT. Since, in the new timeline, Ohura and Spock are intimate, the way the Galileo is saved in the comic is that she steals a shuttlecraft and rescues them from the planet. Not nearly as enjoyable as Spock making an emotional judgment, I think.
If anyone wants to continue, please do. I'll be happy to play.
"It was a test, to see if you were ready to take my place! And you failed, miserably!"
"I appreciate the advice, Chief, but I trust my son. Besides, if I get between them now, it would become me versus Nog, and I'm not going to force Jake to choose between us."
"Why not?"
"Because I'd probably lose."
"Oh, I doubt that, sir."
"That's because your daughter's three. Wait until she's fourteen!"
"Hold on... you're saying Vulcans stole your homework?"
"Yes, sir."
"Any idea why?"
"Because they don't have ethics?"
"My father requires rest!"
"Please feel free to use my own... brother's quarters for as long as you're with us."
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"Quite peaceful and highly rational."
"It was bring him aboard or let him die."
"Then why didn't you let him die?"
"If you are father and daughter, you may have shared the same dream."
"That is not reasonable."
"No one's believed that for countless generations. Just as we no longer believe the stars control our fates, or that the spirits of the dead haunt the living."
"According to the legends. But if Palmer is a servant of the Overseer, what was he doing in the cave?"
"The Overseer was said to be all-powerful. He could provide gentle winters, plentiful hunting, fertile crops... anything."
"Weren't there stories of the Overseer destroying those who offended him?"
"Stories. Nothing more."
"Perhaps we should punish her -- to let the Overseer know that she and Riker acted alone."
"Your own reports describe how rational these people are. Millennia ago, they abandoned all belief in the supernatural. And now you're asking me to sabotage that achievement... send them back into the Dark Ages of fear and superstition."
"It's not the season for lightning. It must be a warning..."
"We've had storms at this time of year before."
"Not like this one..."
"It must mean something!"
"It is beyond my power."
"Nothing is beyond your power!
You are the Overseer -- I'll prove it!"
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Interesting. It must be NG (OK, Will and Tom Riker appeared in other ST versions, but I remember them pretty well), but I'm not getting it.
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"Quite peaceful and highly rational."
"Before you start quoting the Prime Directive -- he'd already seen us; the damage was done. It was bring him aboard or let him die."
"Then why didn't you let him die?"
"Because we were responsible for his injuries!"
"I don't know if I concur with that reasoning, Doctor."
"Like the Vulcans, they have highly ordered minds...A very sensible people.
For example, Mintakan women precede their mates. It's a signal to other women."
" 'This man's taken; get your own?' "
"Not precisely... More like, 'if you want his services, I'm the one to negotiate with.' "
"What kinds of 'services'?"
"All kinds."
"Ah. They are a sensible race."
"There are the stories of the Overseer... who could appear and disappear at will..."
"And couldn't this Overseer heal the dead?"
"He had supreme power -- or so our ancestors believed."
"I believe I've seen the Overseer..."
"Uh-oh..."
"He is called the Picard."
"If you are father and daughter, you may have shared the same dream."
"That is not reasonable."
"No one's believed that for countless generations. Just as we no longer believe the stars control our fates, or that the spirits of the dead haunt the living."
"I'm not saying all the old beliefs are true. But I did see the Picard, and I was restored to life."
"This Palmer is one of the Overseer's servants?"
"Yes -- the Picard has many servants. Isn't that true?"
"According to the legends. But if Palmer is a servant of the Overseer, what was he doing in the cave?"
"The Overseer was said to be all-powerful. He could provide gentle winters, plentiful hunting, fertile crops... anything."
"You've angered the Picard -- and we may all suffer for it!"
Weren't there stories of the Overseer destroying those who offended him?"
"Stories. Nothing more."
"Perhaps we should punish her -- to let the Overseer know that she and Riker acted alone."
"Your own reports describe how rational these people are. Millennia ago, they abandoned all belief in the supernatural. And now you're asking me to sabotage that achievement... send them back into the Dark Ages of fear and superstition."
"It's not the season for lightning. It must be a warning..."
"We've had storms at this time of year before."
"Not like this one..."
"It must mean something!"
"It is beyond my power."
"Nothing is beyond your power!
You are the Overseer -- I'll prove it!"
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I had a hunch that Picard would turn out to be whom the others thought was the Overseer, but I really don't remember this one. The name "Mintakan" rings a bell, though.
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"Quite peaceful and highly rational."
"Before you start quoting the Prime Directive -- he'd already seen us; the damage was done. It was bring him aboard or let him die."
"Then why didn't you let him die?"
"Because we were responsible for his injuries!"
"I don't know if I concur with that reasoning, Doctor."
"Like the Vulcans, they have highly ordered minds...A very sensible people.
For example, Mintakan women precede their mates. It's a signal to other women."
" 'This man's taken; get your own?' "
"Not precisely... More like, 'if you want his services, I'm the one to negotiate with.' "
"What kinds of 'services'?"
"All kinds."
"Ah. They are a sensible race."
"There are the stories of the Overseer... who could appear and disappear at will..."
"And couldn't this Overseer heal the dead?"
"He had supreme power -- or so our ancestors believed."
"I believe I've seen the Overseer..."
"Uh-oh..."
"He is called the Picard."
"If you are father and daughter, you may have shared the same dream."
"That is not reasonable."
"No one's believed that for countless generations. Just as we no longer believe the stars control our fates, or that the spirits of the dead haunt the living."
"I'm not saying all the old beliefs are true. But I did see the Picard, and I was restored to life."
"This Palmer is one of the Overseer's servants?"
"Yes -- the Picard has many servants. Isn't that true?"
"According to the legends. But if Palmer is a servant of the Overseer, what was he doing in the cave?"
"The Overseer was said to be all-powerful. He could provide gentle winters, plentiful hunting, fertile crops... anything."
"You've angered the Picard -- and we may all suffer for it!"
Weren't there stories of the Overseer destroying those who offended him?"
"Stories. Nothing more."
"Perhaps we should punish her -- to let the Overseer know that she and Riker acted alone."
"Horrifying... Dr. Barron,
Your own reports describe how rational these people are. Millennia ago, they abandoned all belief in the supernatural. And now you're asking me to sabotage that achievement... send them back into the Dark Ages of fear and superstition."
"It's not the season for lightning. It must be a warning..."
"We've had storms at this time of year before."
"Not like this one..."
"It must mean something!"
"It is beyond my power."
"Nothing is beyond your power!
You are the Overseer -- I'll prove it!"
""Dr. Barron, I cannot, I will not impose a set of commandments on these people!"
""Look at me... feel the warmth of my hand, the rhythm of my pulse. I'm not a supreme being. I'm flesh and blood, like you."
"Not like me."
"Like you. Different in appearance, yes, but we are both living beings. We are born, we grow, we live... and we die. In all the ways that matter, we are alike."
"Perhaps one day, my people will travel above the skies..."
"Of that, I have absolutely no doubt."
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Was this the one where a disguised Worf helps his step-brother move a people from one planet to another by keeping them in a holodeck for days?
George
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No, but we're dealing with a people at a similar tech level.
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There was an episode which began with a hidden Federation observation station (essentially, a holographic "duck blind") that lost power to its holoemitter, revealing the occupants to the local citizenry. I don't remember anything else about the episode, though.
George
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Before the Enterprise could complete repairs, one scientist was injured and wandered
off, and a local saw the inside a moment then took a serious injury.
His life was saved on the Enterprise, and the attempt to erase his memories failed.
He came back, raving about a god called "the Picard" and said he was The Overseer
they used to believe in long ago (a belief in a god.)
"Who Watches the Watchers".
I find the episode fascinating for all its message.
We have a society that EXPERTS say is VERY rational and practical.
A member sees something he doesn't understand and IMMEDIATELY decides it is
a specific incident reviving belief in an Almighty.
He also leaps from "I have seen 'the Picard'" to "'The Picard' is The Overseer' "
and NOBODY calls him on it. In a matter of HOURS, people are ascribing SUPERNATURAL
significance to a mundane storm. and advocating hurting or killing people in case
it MIGHT please 'the Picard.'
We also have Picard himself saying ANY belief in ANY god will result in religious
wars and "DARK AGES." Finally, Picard all but said outright that it was better to
just let a local die from injuries accidentally caused by the Federation rather
than violate the Prime Directive.
There's quite a message in this episode.
Anyway, you go. That was at least the same episode I posted.
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"Look, these people are my friends and my shipmates. I intend to continue this ship's search for them until the last possible moment."
"Very well, captain. But not one second beyond that moment. Is that clear?"
"I'm frequently appalled by the low regard you Earthmen have for life."
George
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Another quote might be useful.
(Or it might not, depending.)
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I usually give it a couple of days between posts. Here a a couple more which will probably make it obvious.
"You're not going to admit for the first time in your life you made a completely emotional decision based on desperation?"
"No, sir."
"You are a very stubborn man."
"Yes, sir."
"You said a while ago that there were always alternatives."
"Did I? I may have been mistaken."
"Well at least I lived long enough to hear that."
"Look, these people are my friends and my shipmates. I intend to continue this ship's search for them until the last possible moment."
"Very well, captain. But not one second beyond that moment. Is that clear?"
"I'm frequently appalled by the low regard you Earthmen have for life."
George
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"It may be the last action you'll ever take, Mister Spock, but it was all human."
"Totally illogical. There was no chance."
"That's exactly what I mean."
"You're not going to admit for the first time in your life you made a completely emotional decision based on desperation?"
"No, sir."
"You are a very stubborn man."
"Yes, sir."
"You said a while ago that there were always alternatives."
"Did I? I may have been mistaken."
"Well at least I lived long enough to hear that."
"Look, these people are my friends and my shipmates. I intend to continue this ship's search for them until the last possible moment."
"Very well, captain. But not one second beyond that moment. Is that clear?"
"I'm frequently appalled by the low regard you Earthmen have for life."
George
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I got this one on the first line, but since I'm so bad at posting new ones lately, I don't think I should say.
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It is a pretty easy one.
George
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I'm just going to assume that no one wants to play, again (or is reticent to give an answer and not post another clue).
This was, of course, the original series episode, "The Galileo Seven." (Did you ever wonder about Kirk being elated to find that FIVE crewmembers were beamed aboard, alive and well? He doesn't even ask who the two missing crew were! What if they were McCoy and Spock -- or Scotty?)
I picked this one because IDW Comics, who have had the rights to ST properties for the last few years, have started a series based on OS episodes, but using the "new" timeline of the recent movie. The last two issues were from "The Galileo Seven." In case anyone who isn't reading those issues now plans to go back and catch up (there are only four issues so far), here is a SPOILER ALERT. Since, in the new timeline, Ohura and Spock are intimate, the way the Galileo is saved in the comic is that she steals a shuttlecraft and rescues them from the planet. Not nearly as enjoyable as Spock making an emotional judgment, I think.
If anyone wants to continue, please do. I'll be happy to play.
George
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My ability to name TOS episodes is not impressive.
I currently don't know much about this episode, and what I DO know wasn't in a quote.
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Ok, next round.
"Let's make sure that history never forgets the name...Enterprise."
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That's pretty easy. I'll see if anyone else gets it.
BTW, if you were still "playing" the last episode, you could have asked for more clues. I assumed you were just uninterested.
George
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I DID, but it probably would have taken MANY quotes to hit one that would have intersected
what little I know about the episode- draining phasers for power for a shuttle.
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"Let's make sure that history never forgets the name...Enterprise."
"Federation ship Enterprise, surrender and prepare to be boarded."
"That will be the day."
"Mr Castillo?"
"Yes, Captain?"
"Inform the crew - we're going back!"
"A warrior's drink!"
"Military log, combat date 43625.2."
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And what a drink it is!
I will go so far as to mention that this is one of my favorite NG episodes...
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Fine.
"Yesterday's Enterprise"
"Hold on... you're saying Vulcans stole your homework?"
"Yes, sir."
"Any idea why?"
"Because they don't have ethics?"
"My father requires rest!"
"Please feel free to use my own... brother's quarters for as long as you're with us."
George
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I narrowed it down to DS9.
The second one sounds like Quark volunteering Rom's quarters.
The first one seems vaguely familiar-I think Nog was giving excuses for not having homework-to Keiko???
I can't narrow it down past "Nog and Keiko were in this DS9 episode" yet.
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"It was a test, to see if you were ready to take my place! And you failed, miserably!"
"I appreciate the advice, Chief, but I trust my son. Besides, if I get between them now, it would become me versus Nog, and I'm not going to force Jake to choose between us."
"Why not?"
"Because I'd probably lose."
"Oh, I doubt that, sir."
"That's because your daughter's three. Wait until she's fourteen!"
"Hold on... you're saying Vulcans stole your homework?"
"Yes, sir."
"Any idea why?"
"Because they don't have ethics?"
"My father requires rest!"
"Please feel free to use my own... brother's quarters for as long as you're with us."
George
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