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Proverbs 7:22 "He goeth after her straightway, as an ox goeth to the slaughter, or as a fool to the correction of the stocks."

Just thought that if we are quoting Proverbs that the verses regarding advice concerning adultery might be appropriate. Even better if the top TWI leadership knew and practiced these verses like other verses describing leadership qualities in Timothy PRIOR to founding a ministry...

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Preacher, you may be wrong about the Berne Convention and copyright, where it pertains to PFAL. Wierwille's words were put into fixed form in the Power for Abundant Living book, which certainly was legally copyrighted. By making a derivative work out of his words (internet recording) and distributing it widely (over the internet), you would be in violation of copyright, and the fair use argument would not apply, as you would be inhibiting TWI from making money from his words now or in the future by plastering them all over the internet.

And weren't all copies of PFAL owned by TWI, not sold or given away? So aren't you publishing a stolen tape? Oopsie.

Hello all! This has bounced back up again - and Shaz was correct on this. (any decent lawyer could build a case for the opposition though and probably squeak it out, given time and money).

Frankly though - who cares? The Way Nash doesn't - they really only dig their heels in when they feel like it or it conflicts with something they have interest in. People who ascribe to PFAL and want to see it back in force would support it's use by anyone, even the vile scoundrels at the Way who live to hose the innocent and whose very existence is an insult to people of honor and dignity everywhere. Which is why they'll never be able to fully stop re use of PFAL in it's pirated forms. They're too busy being benign and characteristically religious and church like in their behavior. They need to get some years between them and Craig before they can double back. That gives the white-hairs there now some time to lounge.

But I digress - the spirit of Copyright law left on the last train out for the coast a long time ago. Had a bad hangover. Ex Wayfers on a mighty spiritual crusade will do what they will just as most of mankind usually does to rationalize their ownership of anything they really want, just like the rest of the "unbelieving" world do. Dat. Same crap, relabeled.

My advice - wuddevah. If I had a rats asz I didn't really need I'd probably give it but they're getting few and far between. These people will do whatever they want with whatever they want - fine. Everyone's fees and donations who took PFAL in it's day paid for free access to it, forever, in perpetuity and for the rest of their lives - WHEN IT WAS OFFERED by the Way Nash. It didn't make that specific rendering of the PFAL class by VPW accessible to anyone anytime they ever wanted it, at their own request or insistence. The information, sure. The books, sure. But the spirit of truth, justice, the American way and speeding bullets should tell any idiot that if you take something that someone else produced, manufactured, wrote, built or otherwise brought into being - it's theirs. That's why you took it - they had it and you wanted it.

On higher spiritual levels where doves cry and Wayfers postulate on the significance of the number 3 more than they do on the number of sick people they've healed in the last year , all bets are off and you better watch your panties if you get on their radar because if they like them, they'll figure out a rationale that says they are theirs and not yours.

Really.

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