Too vested in the vpw-myth

[skyrider]

The years are clipping by.....and 2015 is upon us.

I remember commenting some 10 years ago, in 2005, that I believed Rosalie

would try to sit in that prez-chair AS LONG AS POSSIBLE. Never mind that five-year

guideline of rotating leadership in and out every five or so years. Nope.

Rosalie had clawed her way to the top......and would not go away without a fight.

Like so many of these "leaders".....what else do they have?

They're too vested in the vpw-myth to go find a real job.

Heck, one could easily argue that they are MYTH-HUSTLERS. :anim-smile:/>

Whether these "leaders" believe in the wierwille-mantle mogship is more-or-less irrelevant.

It's their perceived identity with attempts to stoke the dying embers of yesteryear.

FIFTEEN YEARS AT THE HELM......and what has Rosalie accomplished?

....1) Dwindling staff employment

....2) Pathetic corps sign-ups

....3) Boring Sunday Snoozefests

....4) Classes crawling ever-so-slowly

....5) Hypocrisy at its zenith

....6) Etc.

Hang in there, Rosalie for another 10 years. :biglaugh:/>

I'd be disappointed if you didn't.

Every dismal year exposes twi fraud.

Welcome to all you lurkers who visit GS.

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Edited December 2, 2014 by skyrider

[waysider]

There are some grown people who will go to their grave believing Santa Claus is real. Maybe this is the year they'll finally get those Lincoln Logs they've always wanted.

[skyrider]

Every year that Rosalie hangs on to the magical myth of derr mogdom....

it validates, to me, that the whole thing quacks like a duck.

When a twice-divorced English teacher can self-bestow the mantle of a cult

.....and long-standing followers march in lockstep to the hypocrisy

.....and some, who finally exit, say that BOREDOM was a main reason

.....and mortgages are NOT allowed, because its "going in debt"

.....and the whole thing, sluggishly, hardly has a pulse

isn't it TIME to turn out the lights?

Maybe it's just me. I've always loathed HYPOCRISY.

[krys]

Hi Mr. Linder! Have a nice day!

[WordWolf]

The thread title surprised me.

I think of this as more of a twi myth,

and the vpw myth as things like The 1942 Promise

and other disproven things and wild claims.

[skyrider]

The thread title surprised me.

I think of this as more of a twi myth,

and the vpw myth as things like The 1942 Promise

and other disproven things and wild claims.

Hmmm.....maybe more clarification?

When I think of the vpw-myth, the whole leavened loaf.....

it encompasses the alpha/omega of the "man of gawd" doctrine".

Seemingly, wierwille convinced himself of this mogdom as well.

Then, in 1982....when vpee was passing on the mantle to lcm, remember the DISPLAY OF

OIL, MANTLE, VOWS, FOLLOWERS VOW TO FOLLOW NEXT MOG, etc. etc. etc.

What was the message? The spirit of God would reside on new "man of God" and

he would lead us forward.

No matter how wierwille tried to pass on this "mantle of responsibility".....

lots and lots of corps leadership were NOT buying it. And, THAT was martindale.

The allegiance to the myth did NOT take hold.

Let alone when talking about.... Rosalie Fox Shumate Rivenbark.

Sure, there is a core of followers......many are paid staff.

Add families and relatives. The perks of connections.

But really?

It is TIME to turn out the lights.

[WordWolf]

If the followers wake up, they could realize it's time to stop feeding twi their money,

time, and loyalty-their lives, really- and discover life outside of twi.

Christians live much richer lives outside of it all the time.

Then again,

some other people decided they could leave twi,

and still take twi with them-

continuing to ignore all the information exposing the lies,

and maintaining vpw was some great one,

who had a special connection to God Almighty,

and wasn't just a fraud who used the work of others

to pretend he knew what a deep relationship with God Almighty

was all about.

That is an option for the remaining innies. It's an unhealthy

option, but frankly, I think it beats remaining in twi entirely.

[skyrider]

Wierwille's adherence to this mog-doctrine was a throwback to Old Testament kings and prophets.

Seemingly, vpee believed that he possessed the spiritual-mandate to rule over others.

With his weekly teachings, supposedly, we were to direct our thoughts and actions accordingly.

As the years passed, twi became more top-down dogmatic in all its practices.

When one steps back and really looks at this discrepancy......."Did wierwille not believe

the New Testament scripture relating to all being members in Christ?"

Now, with regards to the followers......

.....Heck, most youth allegiances are social in nature.

.....How many went to rock of ages just to see friends?

.....Even after decades, some stay in twi because of familiarity.

.....And, those who leave....hold onto some sort of relevancy.

.....Very few ever step back and unravel the web of deception.

.....Living in the moment is all that matters.

But then....some of us find meaning in *connecting the dots.*

Count me among the greasespotter-dotters.

[outandabout]

I used to believe in Wierwille so much that at one point I would fall to sleep at night with his teachings playing.

[hiway29]

I used to fall asleep to his teachings during meetings sometimes-not trying to make a snide comment, but I did.

[outandabout]

That too.

[Bolshevik]

A-Weirwillism.

I've seen a statue of him. Visited a grave of some sort. There's these pictures and books with his name on it.

But . . . does that make him real?

[waysider]

A-Weirwillism.

I've seen a statue of him. Visited a grave of some sort. There's these pictures and books with his name on it.

But . . . does that make him real?

Nope, in and of itself, that doesn't make him real. Those are merely artifacts that happen to coincide with his existence. You need to separate the man from his myth to appreciate the point being made.

[GrouchoMarxJr]

What makes Wierwille real is the trail of broken lives he left lying by the side of the road as he drank and screwed his way to self gratification.