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Not so fast.

My initial search turned out to be inadequate. If you go to that paper's web site, you can't find anything about the reporter or those subjects.

That paper doesn't have a reporter by that name. That's because he's the publisher.

I asked.

So now I'm asking whether they are catalogued by Nexis (the journalist's Google) and if not, whether there was an article published on that date by that writer covering those subjects. I will advise.

 

 

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So I found the article. The first thing that should be noted, is that the story does not say this person was dead. It specifically says he was in a coma. Yes, it says he died several times. Technically speaking, that is not true. But that is not an uncommon journalistic convention, to say someone died on the operating table and was revived.

In real hospital rooms, you are pronounced dead exactly one time. After that, they stopped working on you. Funny how that works. So this guy never actually died in any real sense of the word. However, he was in grave mortal Danger.

So he hallucinated. Big deal.

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1 hour ago, Raf said:

So I found the article. The first thing that should be noted, is that the story does not say this person was dead. It specifically says he was in a coma. Yes, it says he died several times. Technically speaking, that is not true. But that is not an uncommon journalistic convention, to say someone died on the operating table and was revived.

In real hospital rooms, you are pronounced dead exactly one time. After that, they stopped working on you. Funny how that works. So this guy never actually died in any real sense of the word. However, he was in grave mortal Danger.

So he hallucinated. Big deal.

Ok, so in layman's terms, the article said that he ended up in the operating room being worked on. While there, he stopped breathing for several minutes more than once- during which the E.R. team kept him going artificially until his heart beat by itself.  (Each time it happened.)    He was in a coma when he was worked on, and probably when he arrived.   When he woke up from his coma, and the trauma of the heart attack and the subsequent (successful) attempts to keep him alive when his heart took a break,  he claimed to have gone to Heaven.  Whether anyone believes that he actually did, or had a vision of Heaven, hallucinated the whole thing, or actually made it up  is up to the reader. 

I believe that's as far as anyone can go- in terms of the article.

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46 minutes ago, Raf said:

Ok, let's see....

"Gary Laude, 73, of Sebring and Muskegon, Mich., suffered a serious heart attack on Sunday, Feb. 21, 2010, and was in a coma and on life support for 15 days. He believes he visited Heaven during that time."

"In the ambulance his heart stopped and also later at Mercy Hospital. He was given electric shocks 37 times."

"Gary believes for 14 days he walked and talked with angels and visited patients in many hospitals in Michigan.  On Day 15 his guardian angel took him by the hand and brought him back to his body, which was on life support. On Day 16 he woke up and the doctor said his lungs appeared okay."

 

"Laude said his guardian angel since being a small boy was Jesus Christ. It was Jesus escorting him to the hospital room, who said he had to leave Heaven and go back to his body.

" 'Heaven was so beautiful words cannot describe. I did not see loved ones since I was coming back. I walked with two angels.'' "

"Gary said an old gray-haired nurse helped him in the hospital. A charge nurse said the old gray-haired nurse retired 10 years ago and died in 2006 but comes back on occasion as an angel to help someone who is terminally ill."

"A Dr. Stewart told Laude no one had ever survived a full aspiration."

"When he had his six-month checkups, the medical staff called him the "Miracle Man." "

"  "Gary died five times and God performed a miracle in Gary's life through divine intervention, and Gary feels compelled to tell his story wherever he goes," wrote Carol."

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The article says he was in a coma and on life-support for 15 days.  Not  common, but not exceptionally rare, either.   Gary believes that he walked with angels and visited hospitals, and visited Heaven. 

All the especially odd things are all hearsay from Gary.  Gary said this old nurse showed up, and Gary said a charge nurse said this dead woman shows up as an angel.  Gary said a Dr Stewart said no one had ever survived a full aspiration.  In fact, the whole "he was aspirated" thing was from him, as well. 

"When a tube was placed in his throat for breathing, a lot of his dinner left his stomach and went into his lungs, a medical term called aspiration."

I'm having trouble buying that he was intubated- which in this case meant a tube placed in his throat from the outside air to his windpipe- and then his windpipe was that big that it expanded past the intubation and accepted food backed up from the esophagus.

"A nurse told Carol he had a three percent chance of survival."

That's awfully freaking precise.  Is it common for nurses there to say things like that?  I thought they were trained to never get specific about survivability, and placing percentage odds is NOT professional.

Carol's part is to add "Gary died 5x and God performed a miracle."  That's her conclusion and what she believes.   We never get the story corroborated by the hospital. Oh, sure, the coma and so on, but not that he "died" or "some of us call him Miracle Man" or anything like that. 

I believe THEY believe this is an accurate account of what happened.  I believe this is an accurate account of what they SAY happened.

 

Ultimately, every reader will have to make up his mind for himself.   The facts were NOT corroborated by the newspaper account, no matter who was told that. In fact, that alone makes me suspicious.   If I thought I had corroborating newspaper articles, I'd carry photocopies, printouts, PDFs, etc of them.    Otherwise, it's a little like "I did lots of miracles in India. Before and after that in the US, no."

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8 minutes ago, WordWolf said:

Ok, let's see....

"Gary Laude, 73, of Sebring and Muskegon, Mich., suffered a serious heart attack on Sunday, Feb. 21, 2010, and was in a coma and on life support for 15 days. He believes he visited Heaven during that time."

"In the ambulance his heart stopped and also later at Mercy Hospital. He was given electric shocks 37 times."

"Gary believes for 14 days he walked and talked with angels and visited patients in many hospitals in Michigan.  On Day 15 his guardian angel took him by the hand and brought him back to his body, which was on life support. On Day 16 he woke up and the doctor said his lungs appeared okay."

 

"Laude said his guardian angel since being a small boy was Jesus Christ. It was Jesus escorting him to the hospital room, who said he had to leave Heaven and go back to his body.

" 'Heaven was so beautiful words cannot describe. I did not see loved ones since I was coming back. I walked with two angels.'' "

"Gary said an old gray-haired nurse helped him in the hospital. A charge nurse said the old gray-haired nurse retired 10 years ago and died in 2006 but comes back on occasion as an angel to help someone who is terminally ill."

"A Dr. Stewart told Laude no one had ever survived a full aspiration."

"When he had his six-month checkups, the medical staff called him the "Miracle Man." "

"  "Gary died five times and God performed a miracle in Gary's life through divine intervention, and Gary feels compelled to tell his story wherever he goes," wrote Carol."

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The article says he was in a coma and on life-support for 15 days.  Not  common, but not exceptionally rare, either.   Gary believes that he walked with angels and visited hospitals, and visited Heaven. 

All the especially odd things are all hearsay from Gary.  Gary said this old nurse showed up, and Gary said a charge nurse said this dead woman shows up as an angel.  Gary said a Dr Stewart said no one had ever survived a full aspiration.  In fact, the whole "he was aspirated" thing was from him, as well. 

"When a tube was placed in his throat for breathing, a lot of his dinner left his stomach and went into his lungs, a medical term called aspiration."

I'm having trouble buying that he was intubated- which in this case meant a tube placed in his throat from the outside air to his windpipe- and then his windpipe was that big that it expanded past the intubation and accepted food backed up from the esophagus.

"A nurse told Carol he had a three percent chance of survival."

That's awfully freaking precise.  Is it common for nurses there to say things like that?  I thought they were trained to never get specific about survivability, and placing percentage odds is NOT professional.

Carol's part is to add "Gary died 5x and God performed a miracle."  That's her conclusion and what she believes.   We never get the story corroborated by the hospital. Oh, sure, the coma and so on, but not that he "died" or "some of us call him Miracle Man" or anything like that. 

I believe THEY believe this is an accurate account of what happened.  I believe this is an accurate account of what they SAY happened.

 

Ultimately, every reader will have to make up his mind for himself.   The facts were NOT corroborated by the newspaper account, no matter who was told that. In fact, that alone makes me suspicious.   If I thought I had corroborating newspaper articles, I'd carry photocopies, printouts, PDFs, etc of them.    Otherwise, it's a little like "I did lots of miracles in India. Before and after that in the US, no."

Yep.

A couple of reflections on my part. 1) I agree w/WW that THEY believe this is an accurate account. 2) Human recollection in times of crisis is not very reliably accurate. (for example, we can remember things that didn't even happen

"As time goes on, it can be difficult to know how accurate our memories of an event are – indeed for many of our childhood memories, it can be hard to know for certain whether we’re remembering the firsthand event itself, or are simply recalling a story as told by our parents and from photos or home videos from the time.

"But this concept has a far scarier implication which has been studied by psychologists. In an experiment, interviewers were able convince 70% of people they had committed a crime, when in reality they had not."

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This is such a thing as near death experiences. I would put those in the category of now we know in part, but someday we'll get the fuller picture.

Bottom-line? The experience of Gary Laude doesn't prove anything about being raised from the dead. But I hope he's thankful for the medical care he got and for what he saw during his NDE.


 



 

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I have the article before me with Kelly shown as the writer & yes I think the truth is very important..would you like me to snail mail it to you?

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sorry  I replied having  not scrolled to page 2...my bad, as I saw there were 2 pages but didn't scroll... I would be happy to PM their phone # to any of you, as its no secret as I obviously was not there back in 2010 but a talk with Carol L might fill in a few missing pieces of the puzzle..Glad you were able to find the article...as Newspaper writers are objective & chose to write it as they also interpreted it to have happened..I think the key is Carol L..thanks for your interests in this as many NDE's leave one skeptical as well.. I' sure

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Really the question is...did Gary Die or not? TRUE? with the aspiration, where Carol claims that the Dr told her that after stomach contents were seen first & then followed that "gray matter" which the Dr. told her was what was left of his lungs.. So..lets say he didn't die..& once revived...could he then breathe on his own without functioning lungs?..when he came to after the 15th day, the dr's were astonished that he could breathe with what obviously had happened 2 weeks earlier with the lungs disintegrating. He had no lung transplant..could this have been a miracle from God giving Gary a new set of lungs..otherwise I would not be talking to him "live" in 20l9.....I've read an amazing amount of testimonies where God did even more remarkable miracles than a new set of lungs..which to me is pretty amazing (lungs that is)...God "doin' his thing " in these latter days is quite exciting & thought provoking especially for the skeptical person!!

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there is no evidence gary died.

there is less than no evidence that gary was dead for two weeks.

testimonies are CLAIMS.

Every religion has adherents with claims. All magically verify their own religions. imagine that.

His recovery would have certainly been miraculous had it not been accompanied by nonstop 24/7 medical care.

Thank Doc he lived to tell his "miraculous" tale.

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By the way, EVERYTHING we know about Gary's medical condition comes to us second hand. Do we have the expert analysis of his doctor? No. Do we have the case studied by independent medical experts? No. Did Hugh Laurie suddenly have an epiphany leading into the last commercial break? No.

 

 

To say this story lackscredibility is to be generous. It's one thing to consider his tale as a matter of faith. But you're going to need a truckload more evidence if you want to pass it off as an actual "miracle." It doesn't pass the first test of a miracle: it does not defy explanation.

Guy fell into a coma [allegedly: we have  ZERO verification even THAT took place. But let's assume it did since it is not an extraordinary claim and therefore does not require extraordinary evidence]. It was dire. His heart might have stopped a couple of times. He was revived [by medical attention; the story doesn't even ALLEGE a miracle here].

He was under constant medical care and supervision.

He recovered. Would he have recovered without divine intervention? Who knows? Would he have recovered without medical intervention? Again, who knows? [Ans: you. you know].

When he awakened, he made claims about what he experienced that can readily be explained by the fact that he has a functioning brain.

Look, if you want me to believe a miracle took place here, you gotta at LEAST alllege a miracle!

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Carol & Gary would most assuredly enjoy speaking with you Raf..pm me & I'll give you their # unless I can simply post it here..I e-mail it out all the time along with his 20 minute CD which I downloaded into e-mail format...some have called him..BUT  I personally would especially call her, since she's the one who adamantly refused to bury him after the aspiration took place....unless you would like info on his visit with the angels & our Lord...then speak to them...they are nice "alive people" as I wish I had a new set of lungs at my age. I'll say one other thing...many many people have been led to the Lord because of his one on one testimony with the general public..pretty awesome stuff...as I would bet he's convinced..LOL.Bless you Raf..& those others who are following this.

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12 hours ago, jim jack said:

Really the question is...did Gary Die or not? TRUE? with the aspiration, where Carol claims that the Dr told her that after stomach contents were seen first & then followed that "gray matter" which the Dr. told her was what was left of his lungs.. So..lets say he didn't die..& once revived...could he then breathe on his own without functioning lungs?..when he came to after the 15th day, the dr's were astonished that he could breathe with what obviously had happened 2 weeks earlier with the lungs disintegrating. He had no lung transplant..could this have been a miracle from God giving Gary a new set of lungs..otherwise I would not be talking to him "live" in 20l9.....I've read an amazing amount of testimonies where God did even more remarkable miracles than a new set of lungs..which to me is pretty amazing (lungs that is)...God "doin' his thing " in these latter days is quite exciting & thought provoking especially for the skeptical person!!

A) "Did Gary die or not?"    There's no reason to think he died other than their conviction that he died. Even their account said it was a "COMA."  Medicine keeping people in a coma alive is not startling, coming out of a coma is not startling, either. 

B) "Could he then breathe on his own without functioning lungs?"  There's no reason to think his lungs were non-functional nor significantly damaged, other than her testimony.

"Could this have been a miracle from God giving Gary a new set of lungs?" Possibly. Equally possible?  His lungs were not damaged to the degree you were told- if at all. It's all based on their testimonies, nothing from the reporter actually spending time in the hospital.    If I were to place a guess, the only reason he didn't follow up on this was that he was already supremely confident this whole story was "an exercise in creative thinking." Otherwise, he'd have been all over the hospital, getting quotes, photocopying medical reports and diagnoses and so on. 

 

C) I'm sure there's more remarkable testimonies than this one- but let's finish with this one before getting to others.  As for this one,  it's full of question marks.  I accept he's in decent health now, and that he had some sort of attack before.  Anything else would need the hospital or a doctor who treated him to document something- and this entire article skipped that step. It doesn't guarantee any of this was false, but it does nothing whatsoever to support the claims.  They documented that the couple made these claims.

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5 hours ago, Raf said:

there is no evidence gary died.

there is less than no evidence that gary was dead for two weeks.

testimonies are CLAIMS.

Every religion has adherents with claims. All magically verify their own religions. imagine that.

His recovery would have certainly been miraculous had it not been accompanied by nonstop 24/7 medical care.

Thank Doc he lived to tell his "miraculous" tale.

vpw went to India. ACCORDING TO HIM, while he was there, he performed LOTS of miraculous healings, including one off the back of a train for a non-Christian.  ACCORDING TO HIM, he was told that India would be open to him if he ever chose to return there.  He never returned there, he never did such miracles over here, and he never brought out anything documenting even one actual miracle.  (We got one account of "the guy in this photo is somebody vpw healed" - but a still photo proves the man existed and was in the same room with vpw at least once.  We didn't get a still photo of a man with a withered arm, then another one with the same man with a healthy arm.) 

 

vpw made a lot of CLAIMS but did not prove them.  We should not believe him.

This couple made a lot of CLAIMS but did not prove them.   Should we believe them nevertheless, or at least wait until some real documentation comes along?

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2 hours ago, jim jack said:

Carol & Gary would most assuredly enjoy speaking with you Raf..pm me & I'll give you their # unless I can simply post it here..I e-mail it out all the time along with his 20 minute CD which I downloaded into e-mail format...some have called him..BUT  I personally would especially call her, since she's the one who adamantly refused to bury him after the aspiration took place....unless you would like info on his visit with the angels & our Lord...then speak to them...they are nice "alive people" as I wish I had a new set of lungs at my age. I'll say one other thing...many many people have been led to the Lord because of his one on one testimony with the general public..pretty awesome stuff...as I would bet he's convinced..LOL.Bless you Raf..& those others who are following this.

Contacting them would accomplish nothing.  The only thing we would prove is that they believe what they said.  We all stipulated to that- we believe that they believe all of this.  The further we go with this, the more of a non-story it seems.

 

If an experience (ANY experience) leads one to live a better life and seek God, I'm for that.  It doesn't have to be miraculous.

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22 hours ago, Rocky said:

Yep.

A couple of reflections on my part. 1) I agree w/WW that THEY believe this is an accurate account. 2) Human recollection in times of crisis is not very reliably accurate. (for example, we can remember things that didn't even happen

"As time goes on, it can be difficult to know how accurate our memories of an event are – indeed for many of our childhood memories, it can be hard to know for certain whether we’re remembering the firsthand event itself, or are simply recalling a story as told by our parents and from photos or home videos from the time.

"But this concept has a far scarier implication which has been studied by psychologists. In an experiment, interviewers were able convince 70% of people they had committed a crime, when in reality they had not."

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This is such a thing as near death experiences. I would put those in the category of now we know in part, but someday we'll get the fuller picture.

Bottom-line? The experience of Gary Laude doesn't prove anything about being raised from the dead. But I hope he's thankful for the medical care he got and for what he saw during his NDE.


 



 

All of this offers a credible answer which also fits the actual evidence.

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Catol's account is the claim

It is not evidence for that claim.

I already have her number. Do not post it here.

 

 

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One more thing:

Just because an article is printed in a newspaper does not mean it has met  journalistic standards.

This article contains ZERO independent verification of the claims being  made.  The writer merelvrepeats unverified claims. 

Don't use the professionn's standards to enhance the credibility of the claim when the profession's standards were not followed 

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2 hours ago, Raf said:

Just because an article is printed in a newspaper does not mean it has met  journalistic standards.

Enquiring minds want to know believe.

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Well done Raf, WW, and Rocky! It is glaringly obvious who is preaching “truthful hyperbole” and who is relying upon reportable FACTS. I have a fun time viewing this miracle  “stohree” from both a Nursing/Medical perspective, and the perspective of a “believer”. The dichotomy is also glaringly obvious.

First of all, clinically, the patient was never pronounced dead by the responsible physician present at ANY of the occasions Çarol reported him as having “died five times”. Secondly, NO RN reports the death and cause of any patient to next of kin without the direction of the responsible physician. HIPPA violation!! Also, I have participated in numerous OR situations both as a Scrub RN and Circulator RN. As RNs we NEVER talk to family in terms of potential survival percentages of their loved ones. That is strictly the job of the physician. We explain the procedures and the process of performing them. Then we do them. EVERYTHING is documented, recorded, double/triple checked, counted, and methodically disposed of and, again legally documented. The ”3 percent chance” line about the aspiration was total BS. As was the entire fantasy about the “lungs disintegrating”! Ridiculous nonsensical and grossly false. Simply “made up”, so much so, that it cannot even be “taken by faith”. LOL! This makes the reporter and the claimant look completely foolish and childlike in their understanding of life. No wonder not one MD, RN, or hospital professional is ever interviewed or quoted! Not one that I know would participate in such immature foolishness.

As a “believer”, I was most disgusted by the following statement:

On 2/8/2019 at 10:35 PM, WordWolf said:

I'll say one other thing...many many people have been led to the Lord because of his one on one testimony with the general public..pretty awesome stuff...as I would bet he's convinced..LOL.Bless you Raf..& those others who are following this.

This was a quote of JJ's closing sentence, which sterlingly witnesses his incredible love for his Lord Jesus, who raises people from the dead. What it actually witnesses is the old Midwest Wierwille conman “charm” the core of which preaches, “the ends justify the means”, NOT THE TRUTH OR FACTS! Typical “Christian” evangelical fervor to convincingly, sincerely, with the total conviction that comes with complete self-delusion, LIE to people in order to get them “led to the Lord”. As I said, TYPICAL “Christian” evangelism. How totally pathetic and disgusting. Jack, YOU should be ashamed of yourself. But, since whatever is left of your “conscience” has long been seared by the utter falsity of everything you believe and speak, there is nothing in you which recognizes shameful lying as wrong,  and you do dictor paul “ministering” proud. LOL! [Personal information deleted by moderators]. I have ZERO respect for you and less for anything you say. Selah.

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DWBH, if you could explain a little about aspiration and possible lung damage for those of us who know a lot less, I'd sure appreciate it.

 

 

I don't think the OP is trying to CON anybody.  I think he means everything he's posting, and genuinely loves God, and has little idea why he's being yelled at. 

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Hi WW!

i am not “yelling” at anyone. I know Jack’s history in TWIt. As I closed my previous post, I have NO respect for him, nor anything he says. He’s a self-promoter and self-aggrandizer. He’s a “player” in the alt-right “Christian nut-job” category. So, I will ignore any references to, or comments from him.

Regarding the purported “disintegration of the lungs” reported by Carol as “the cause of death”, NOT ANY attending physician. To help you get past the completely incoherent, inaccurate and garbled “medical speak”, allow me to properly interpret the complete BS Carol and Jackemeyer promulgate.

Obviously, Glaube experienced a major cardiac event which nearly ended his life and required a 2 week CCU stay with intubation and complete life support. Obviously Glaube’s wishes included “Full Resuscitation and life support”, and most certainly he was not a DNR. The patient received full resuscitory care and was intubated prior to his OR procedures. Because of his respiratory failure, he aspirated his stomach contents, which required immediate intubation. As the Anesthesioligist intubates a person who has aspirated, most use a tracheal endoscope to guide them into the lungs and avoid the stomach and GI tract because sepsis is the major concern. From the layman’s description offered by Carol and promoted as a “miracle” by JJ Gantry, as the Anesthesiologist was performing the intubation, he noted for the record, the stomach contents had been aspirated into the cardiopulmonary system. The “disintegrated grey matter” is completely made up! Aspiration does NOT disintegrate the lungs, bronchioles, or bronchi. That is COMPLETELY FALSE. No such thing occurred. If the lungs “disintegrated” intubation would be meaningless, as there would be NOTHING TO INTUBATE! Hence, no respiratory gas exchange could occur and the patient would immediately expire. I suppose it is this phony set-up and red herring of the “disintegrated” lungs, upon which Carol and Gantry hang their “proof” of a Jesus miracle. What it is in reality, is a miracle that anyone with a functional brain would NOT pay any attention to, as this is nothing more than an oral urban legend.

Hope that helps WW!

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Thank you, it helps a lot.    As someone whose main information about intubation centers around "once had a tube down his throat towards his stomach", I am understandably curious about some really specific things.   (In my case, I had broken ribs, and the tube was to occasionally introduce something to neutralize my stomach acids and keep them from climbing up and dissolving stuff.  I was 'eating" by IV at the time, so my digestive system had nothing to digest, and a bored digestive system is a mischievous digestive system.  BTW, It's hard to talk with one of those in- lots of talking and you're at risk of throwing up.) 

So, I'm curious about a really, really minor point- where the stomach contents went. Did some of them end up in the windpipe and thus in the lungs, introducing foreign matter into the lungs?   (I know I'm the only one who's curious, so if it's not worth it, don't bother. I'm not trying to disintegrate YOUR grey matter in the process. ;)   )

 

BTW, thanks for explaining that you know him PERSONALLY.  That explains your reaction.   Any chance you haven't heard from him in decades, and he MIGHT have improved since then, or are you roughly aware of how he's been doing down the decades?   (I'm guessing the latter, but I shouldn't guess.)

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All good questions, WW. Thanks.

Yes, the stomach contents DO actually infiltrate the lungs when clinical aspiration takes place. The obvious immediate threat is respiratory arrest, but the intubation quickly obviates that. The major concern for the patient post-aspiration is pneumonia and sepsis. Unfortunately common and definitely lethal. Aspiration means that the epiglottis, a thick, fibrous membrane flap separating the respiratory trachea from the upper GI tract into the stomach, has not functioned thereby allowing the gastric contents into the respiratory trachea and into the bronchi and then into the lungs themselves. Respiration is critically compromised. But NONE OF THAT causes the lungs or bronchi to “disintegrate”, which is not compatible with life. No intubation of any kind is possible if the bronchi and lungs are “disintegrated”, let alone, 15 days of intubated respiratory support without pneumonia or sepsis. As I said, the fake condition of “disintegrated lungs” is not compatible with human life.

[Personal information deleted by moderators]

The next time I heard about JJ was when MikePatten, 10th corpse, was briefly a STFI BOT member and had strong support from JJ at that time. There was the usual STFI “leadership” clusterfuck, and Schoenheit fired Patten along with his own sister and brother-in-law, and JJ ran with Patten and his offshoot for awhile. That’s the last I heard of him until his recent arrival a couple of years ago here at the GSC. 

Since his arrival, I have watched his posting patterns and self-promoting posts with mild disgust, but this recent round of horseshit was just too much to allow him to remain “incognito”.

So, has he changed? IDK. I can only base my current opinion of him on his posting behavior here at GSC, since that is the only contact I have with him. And, based upon my past experiences with him, along with the current evidence of his thinking garnered from his posts here, I find him not credible. That is my opinion, WW. Thanks for asking.

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As to the poster, yes, that's a lot of information on which to form an opinion. 

 

I'm curious-but will get no answer-  on the tiny minutiae of the lungs functioning in this instance. I'm well aware (broken ribs inspire shallow breathing)  that pneumonia is no joke, and can result from an infection in the lungs (introduced matter COULD cause that, I suppose, if it introduced a virus or made it easy for a virus to thrive) or from an inability to properly inflate the lungs.  (If you can't take even an OCCASIONAL deep breath, you're at risk for pneumonia.)  

I would imagine that pneumonia here would be prevented by some respiratory machine that made sure the lungs fully inflated every once in a while, a respirator or some other device, I really don't know what each would do but it seems the obvious answer.

 

If anyone's curious, now that DWBH's refreshed my memory and added to what I'd known, I'll mention that the epiglottis is the thing that covers the windpipe and keeps us from something "going down the wrong pipe" when we accidentally inhale some food or drink.  Lots of things can cause problems that affect it or compromise it, and that's potentially dangerous for our thinking.

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