Captain Spiritural

I think learning how to spell "clique" and "corps" might be a good start. Sorry, the proofreader in me was just jumping up and down amidst all this drama.

(249/5.56) proofreader lol you feel good now

It is better to get the patient drunk before pulling out the shrapnel ... but I understand, I don't think much of many of the way corps either ... but corps are pretty much neutered here ... actually, there are no way corps here that I know of ... it is a distant memory that seems rather surreal. Did it really happen? Or do we just invent it here at Greasespot and on our hard drives?

SHUTUP

It is our wounds that make us cynical, and honestly, having a beer and watching some ball is not much more than a bandage when we have schrap mettle to dig out. Maybe we can spend some time with our friend, Captain Spiritual, and find out what the real issue is. Then we will have something to work with.

My apology to our friend, but shall I bring up the word "Spiritual?" (As if I have room to talk)

That nasty keyboard, anyhow.

oo OMG you have wonderful insight thanks bro

crudeness = yeah right, what do I have to do to be a part of your little ex waycorp CLICK soooooo I don't have to get my posts deleted

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WOW YOU DELETE MY POST, funny how the WayCorps still operates it's evil darth. Ive seen much much worst evil posted on your site but ooo well you guys are gods in your own lil minds yeah bros priceless.

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I don`t think that it occured to many of us to seek legal recourse. We were taught that there was a higher law than *man`s* law... We weren`t to take a believer to court...we weren`t to doubt our leaders..that was the first step down, like eve....we needed to obey, or we were stiff necked....anything that encumbered us from moving the word ...yes even that child was a trick of satan, a deception to get us to cop out on our responsibility to God.

For me, it was a decade later before I realized that I didn`t believe twi`s *first breath* teaching nor any of the other scriptures that were used to enforce the decision.

It wasn`t until nearly 20 years after the fact that I realized that mine wasn`t an isolated occurance. A single leader that was out of bounds :(

Just like most of the abuse that happened in twi...I think the statute of limitations on such things had long since run out.

I agree, it was very sick, it was heartbreaking, it was horrible to have to do that in the name of duty owed to God.

That is what haunts me.

Are you still in a alot of mental pain I hope you heal I bet back in da day you were on fire for Christ. I don't know ya but hey yo - as my boys would say back in Iraq "MAN UP AND DRIVE ON WARRIOR" oooooahhh

I don't understand why these people involved was not taken to a court of law either State then Federal. According to Case Law

If the conditions specified in division (B) of this section are satisfied, consent to an abortion shall be presumed to be valid and effective.

(G) The performance or inducement of an abortion without the prior satisfaction of the conditions specified in division (B) of this section does not constitute, and shall not be construed as constituting, a violation of division (A) of section 2919.12 of the Revised Code. The failure of a physician to satisfy the conditions of division (B) of this section prior to performing or inducing an abortion upon a pregnant woman may be the basis of both of the following:

(1) A civil action for compensatory and exemplary damages as described in division (H) of this section;

(2) Disciplinary action under section 4731.22 of the Revised Code.

(H)(1) Subject to divisions (H)(2) and (3) of this section, any physician who performs or induces an abortion with actual knowledge that the conditions specified in division (B) of this section have not been satisfied or with a heedless indifference as to whether those conditions have been satisfied is liable in compensatory and exemplary damages in a civil action to any person, or the representative of the estate of any person, who sustains injury, death, or loss to person or property as a result of the failure to satisfy those conditions. In the civil action, the court additionally may enter any injunctive or other equitable relief that it considers appropriate.(2) The following shall be affirmative defenses in a civil action authorized by division (H)(1) of this section:

(a) The physician performed or induced the abortion under the circumstances described in division (E) of this section.

(b) The physician made a good faith effort to satisfy the conditions specified in division (B) of this section.

© The physician or an agent of the physician requested copies of the materials published in accordance with division © of this section from the department of health, but the physician was not able to give a pregnant woman copies of the materials pursuant to division (B)(3)(2) of this section and to obtain a certification as described in divisions (B)(4)(3) and (5)(4) of this section because the department failed to make the requested number of copies available to the physician or his agent in accordance with division (D) of this section.

(3) An employer or other principal is not liable in damages in a civil action authorized by division (H)(1) of this section on the basis of the doctrine of respondeat superior unless either of the following applies:

(a) The employer or other principal had actual knowledge or, by the exercise of reasonable diligence, should have known that his an employee or agent performed or induced an abortion with actual knowledge that the conditions specified in division (B) of this section had not been satisfied or with a heedless indifference as to whether those conditions had been satisfied.

i am just trying to understand thats all but sick very very sick to be forced into that.

I don't understand why these people involved was not taken to a court of law either State then Federal. According to Case Law

If the conditions specified in division (B) of this section are satisfied, consent to an abortion shall be presumed to be valid and effective.

(G) The performance or inducement of an abortion without the prior satisfaction of the conditions specified in division (B) of this section does not constitute, and shall not be construed as constituting, a violation of division (A) of section 2919.12 of the Revised Code. The failure of a physician to satisfy the conditions of division (B) of this section prior to performing or inducing an abortion upon a pregnant woman may be the basis of both of the following:

(1) A civil action for compensatory and exemplary damages as described in division (H) of this section;

(2) Disciplinary action under section 4731.22 of the Revised Code.

(H)(1) Subject to divisions (H)(2) and (3) of this section, any physician who performs or induces an abortion with actual knowledge that the conditions specified in division (B) of this section have not been satisfied or with a heedless indifference as to whether those conditions have been satisfied is liable in compensatory and exemplary damages in a civil action to any person, or the representative of the estate of any person, who sustains injury, death, or loss to person or property as a result of the failure to satisfy those conditions. In the civil action, the court additionally may enter any injunctive or other equitable relief that it considers appropriate.(2) The following shall be affirmative defenses in a civil action authorized by division (H)(1) of this section:

(a) The physician performed or induced the abortion under the circumstances described in division (E) of this section.

(b) The physician made a good faith effort to satisfy the conditions specified in division (B) of this section.

© The physician or an agent of the physician requested copies of the materials published in accordance with division © of this section from the department of health, but the physician was not able to give a pregnant woman copies of the materials pursuant to division (B)(3)(2) of this section and to obtain a certification as described in divisions (B)(4)(3) and (5)(4) of this section because the department failed to make the requested number of copies available to the physician or his agent in accordance with division (D) of this section.

(3) An employer or other principal is not liable in damages in a civil action authorized by division (H)(1) of this section on the basis of the doctrine of respondeat superior unless either of the following applies:

(a) The employer or other principal had actual knowledge or, by the exercise of reasonable diligence, should have known that his an employee or agent performed or induced an abortion with actual knowledge that the conditions specified in division (B) of this section had not been satisfied or with a heedless indifference as to whether those conditions had been satisfied.

i am just trying to understand thats all but sick very very sick to be forced into that.

I don't understand why these people involved was not taken to a court of law either State then Federal. According to Case Law

If the conditions specified in division (B) of this section are satisfied, consent to an abortion shall be presumed to be valid and effective.

(G) The performance or inducement of an abortion without the prior satisfaction of the conditions specified in division (B) of this section does not constitute, and shall not be construed as constituting, a violation of division (A) of section 2919.12 of the Revised Code. The failure of a physician to satisfy the conditions of division (B) of this section prior to performing or inducing an abortion upon a pregnant woman may be the basis of both of the following:

(1) A civil action for compensatory and exemplary damages as described in division (H) of this section;

(2) Disciplinary action under section 4731.22 of the Revised Code.

(H)(1) Subject to divisions (H)(2) and (3) of this section, any physician who performs or induces an abortion with actual knowledge that the conditions specified in division (B) of this section have not been satisfied or with a heedless indifference as to whether those conditions have been satisfied is liable in compensatory and exemplary damages in a civil action to any person, or the representative of the estate of any person, who sustains injury, death, or loss to person or property as a result of the failure to satisfy those conditions. In the civil action, the court additionally may enter any injunctive or other equitable relief that it considers appropriate.(2) The following shall be affirmative defenses in a civil action authorized by division (H)(1) of this section:

(a) The physician performed or induced the abortion under the circumstances described in division (E) of this section.

(b) The physician made a good faith effort to satisfy the conditions specified in division (B) of this section.

© The physician or an agent of the physician requested copies of the materials published in accordance with division © of this section from the department of health, but the physician was not able to give a pregnant woman copies of the materials pursuant to division (B)(3)(2) of this section and to obtain a certification as described in divisions (B)(4)(3) and (5)(4) of this section because the department failed to make the requested number of copies available to the physician or his agent in accordance with division (D) of this section.

(3) An employer or other principal is not liable in damages in a civil action authorized by division (H)(1) of this section on the basis of the doctrine of respondeat superior unless either of the following applies:

(a) The employer or other principal had actual knowledge or, by the exercise of reasonable diligence, should have known that his an employee or agent performed or induced an abortion with actual knowledge that the conditions specified in division (B) of this section had not been satisfied or with a heedless indifference as to whether those conditions had been satisfied.

i am just trying to understand thats all but sick very very sick to be forced into that.

I work for a rather large company one of the biggest in the U.S. the down side is

I have to many people over me. It seems that I have a diffrent boss to report to on

just about everything.

I was talking to my boss this morning and our boss came in and had a LCM fit.

Spit flying F-bomb droping, make you feel like a child meeting.

My boss who is a grown man was just about in tears, he was ready to leave

because he has never been talked to like that in his entire life. He has been in

many meetings and around in the corp world.

I was not fazed in the least bit. My boss was amazed that I could take it and not

think this guy was an a-h###, and my feelings were not hurt.

From this meeting I got the nod to work on a new project by the boss because my

boss could not handle the pressure.

Has this ever happend to anyone ? I know I was trained the twi to eat crap

and say thanks it tastes good. I wonder if I am emotionally damaged to feelings

sometimes. Any stories or opnions?

P.S. I have about thirty people directly under me but I never lose my

temper with them. I always look to help and consider their feelings when

I talk with them..

copenhagen

wow

That about says it for me, Captain. I'm reminded of an old, old and I mean OLD Steve Martin routine, off his first album of stuff I think - where he talks about a new book "How to Make a Million Dollars in Real Estate".....

"First, get a million dollars...now then....!"

He says it really fast, so it's funny.

There are clearly sources of energy in the "known" universe that could be harnessed to do something like this, on the surface. But even if I took that and extrapolated it out to a huge transformation, it still wouldn't account for the unknowns - like how - actually how - are the dead rejoined, reconstituted, brought back into a state of awareness that takes into account 1 of two scenarios (or more I suppose) - that they've been residing in some state somewhere and are brought back into a single time and location together - and/or 2, they've been completely non-existent as hmmm...maybe call them singluar instances of life - and need to be brought back to "life" in a way that would probably qualify as a "new creation", based on the old one, but different.

Matter and atoms, stuff, is conceivable. Spirit isn't, by definition. "Pneuma" - like "wind". Wind has components that make it a force. I couldn't tell you what components make up spirit though. Life is funny - here today, gone tomorrow. The known components fail. If that's all there is, there's probably a 1,000 reasonable possiblities of "how" your question could be accomplished. It's back to the Steve Martin routine - God's God. He'll just make new bodies. How? Like He did the first time. How'd He do that? Good question.

But the awarness, the personality, the non-repeatable, unique and singlular identity of a person - wazzat?

I don't see matter being converted to "spirit", that's about all I could say. Corruptible putting on incorruption - if there's a conversion chart for it I'll leave it to you to cast some light on that topic. I'd love to hear what your ideas are.

Frankly, I'm hoping I get a little less matter showing up at that point anyway. Maybe someone else could use some. They're welcome to some of mine.

koool bro it's beyond me but thanxs thank you all in replying to my question. My friend at my Agency said that the "Hubble Space Telescope " charted more Galaxies than the grains of sand on earth. I mean holy Sh^^^T thats huge. One day GOD will transform a certain group of people now thats deep bros

You want a TECHNICAL explanation, from what I see.

I shall do my best to answer correctly and briefly.

Here's the verses usually used:

I Corinthians 15 (various verses) (NASB)

20But now Christ has been raised from the dead, the first fruits of those who are asleep.

21For since by a man came death, by a man also came the resurrection of the dead.

22For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive.

23But each in his own order: Christ the first fruits, after that those who are Christ's at His coming,

24then comes the end, when He hands over the kingdom to the God and Father, when He has abolished all rule and all authority and power.

25For He must reign until He has put all His enemies under His feet.

26The last enemy that will be abolished is death.

35But someone will say, "How are the dead raised? And with what kind of body do they come?"

36You fool! That which you sow does not come to life unless it dies;

37and that which you sow, you do not sow the body which is to be, but a bare grain, perhaps of wheat or of something else.

38But God gives it a body just as He wished, and to each of the seeds a body of its own.

39All flesh is not the same flesh, but there is one flesh of men, and another flesh of beasts, and another flesh of birds, and another of fish.

40There are also heavenly bodies and earthly bodies, but the glory of the heavenly is one, and the glory of the earthly is another.

41There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars; for star differs from star in glory.

42So also is the resurrection of the dead It is sown a perishable body, it is raised an imperishable body;

43it is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power;

44it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body.

45So also it is written, "The first MAN, Adam, BECAME A LIVING SOUL " The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.

46However, the spiritual is not first, but the natural; then the spiritual.

47The first man is from the earth, earthy; the second man is from heaven.

48As is the earthy, so also are those who are earthy; and as is the heavenly, so also are those who are heavenly.

49Just as we have borne the image of the earthy, we will also bear the image of the heavenly.

50Now I say this, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable.

51Behold, I tell you a mystery; we will not all sleep, but we will all be changed,

52in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet; for the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.

53For this perishable must put on the imperishable, and this mortal must put on immortality.

54But when this perishable will have put on the imperishable, and this mortal will have put on immortality, then will come about the saying that is written, "DEATH IS SWALLOWED UP in victory.

55"O DEATH, WHERE IS YOUR VICTORY? O DEATH, WHERE IS YOUR STING?"

I Thessalonians 4 doesn't provide any insight to this.

As I see it, the living bodies receive a physical upgrade. Its capabilities will be enhanced. Either a side-effect of that, or some

other enhancements will match us to Jesus' resurrected body. That will include human appearance still, and some sort of

teleportation ability like he showed.

Each upgrade/transformation will be a miracle.

So, I can discuss small amounts of WHAT but not HOW, except to say "miraculously."

Koool I can work with that thanxs

The "Rapture of the Church can best be describled as ....

an event foretold in the Bible where the Lord Jesus removes all christians and children from the earth in the blink of an eye, right before he severely punishes those still here for rejecting him and ignoring his offer of eternal life. It's also a time when God gives people their last chance to seek forgiveness for their sin, and turn to the Lord by believing Jesus died on the cross and rose again three days later as payment for their sins. After christians are removed from the earth, the events foretold in the Bible's book of Revelation

My question is how can this transformation of atoms, matter, and energy of millions of people be done with such awesome power? What type of power is it?

I asked my Way Corps leadership about this event sometime long ago, but I would always get reproved and their answer was those events are not for us to know.

I don't want to start a conflict at your site but has anyone done a study on this event. Again we are talking about converting matter, atoms energy into a spiritual catagory

thanxs

Thanks for bringing this thread to the present......it's the first time I've read thru it.

So much has been covered in this thread...as is noted:

BUT.......why does this adultery issue ONLY have to be covered in pfal?

When wierwille taught pfal, he was like 51 years old......and seasoned in arrogance and lusts.

Wierwille failed to herald sound doctrine on adultery on SNS teachings..........

Wierwille failed to take a strong stand on adultery with corps in such "co-ed" living conditions.........

Wierwille sent WOWs on the field with very little screening and preparation to live together and handle the myriad of situations that arise in the real issues of practical living.

Why didn't the "mog -- with his spiritual oversight" SEE the hurt/destruction from NOT teaching this?.....

Why didn't the "mog" teach, in detail, from the Scriptures areas regarding temptation, or personal boundaries, or sexual sins, or abusive behavior......or have veteran leadership to handle accusations or grievances??

Again.....and again.....and again.....threads like this vividly illustrate how inept and debased twi was to really help people.......let alone, lead them to spiritual victorious living.

<_<

wow pimpin aint easy ... can one make alot of money pimpin out church members?

Remember hearing "just shake the dust off your feet"? What this really meant was he's not gonna take the class, we won't be getting his money, therefore we have no more time to waste on him.<BR><BR> The care and concern we had for people was always being "tempered" by twi leadership. True unconditional love was not allowed. There were always strings attached. When a corps leader would be reassigned to another area, all the "friendship, intimate conversations, and concern for that individual in his previous area would disapear faster than a porkchop in a dog kennel, once he was reassigned. It was all phoney and it was all contrived.<BR><BR> The worse part is that we were all taught to treat people this way. Some of us did more than others. How many times did you see a twig coordinator really ream somebody in his twig out because the previous night he himself got reamed out by a leader that was higher up on the food chain? Now it was his turn. How many cute way girls went "witnessing" in a bar, ended up flirting her way into some guys life and then manipulating him to take the class?<BR><BR> We were all taught how to put on our "believer face" just to show people how spiritual we were and how loving we were...sorry it was just an act. As soon as we realized that you were not gonna take our class or believe the same things we believed, we cut you loose and never thought of you <BR><BR> Afterall, we needed to get that class together by the end of the month so that we ourselves would gain favor from the mighty ones in charge. It was all about looking good and making them money. A lot of the techniques were subtle but they were all meant to use people.<BR><BR> Sexual promiscuity was not limited to just top way leadership. I had guys in my twig that were constantly trying to get some way girl into the sack. There were huge arguments about this issue as some of these guys would constantly quote the famous doctrine taught to the 6th corps that it was ok as long as you could "handle it". Well all these guys thought that they could "handle it" just fine.<BR><BR> The methods of recruitment and of keeping the "faithful" in line were both manipulative and abusive. We were taught these methods and they became institutionalized . We used bible verses deceptively to get people to do what we wanted them to do. We lied to people and we used them. All so that we could appear to be a "growing" ministry ( which really meant more money).<BR><BR> In the process of cult recovery, I think it's important to recognize the fact that we were not only victims, but that many of us were also victimizers. I did my share of manipulating people and I admit it. At the time I thought that I was doing the right thing but in the end, I found out differently. <BR><BR> That's why, when I left twi, I went out of my way, seeking all the people that I had a part in recruiting and talked to each one of them. Thankfully, every person that I ever got to take the class has now left twi and I feel better about that.<BR><BR> Both wierwille and martindale were master manipulators and screwed up a lot of people's lives. I'm thankful that I finally recognized the truth and was able to disassociate myself from both being a victim and from being part of a system that caused me to victimize others. It's a two edged sword. The twier who was victimized by some leader quite probably victimized someone else below them in the tree. <BR><BR> As reprobate as both wierwille and martindale were, thousands of folks weren't taken advantage of by just two guys. It was a corrupt sytem and we all played a part in it.

This is priceless again you unfolded alot of spiritual pimpin going on, but hey nothing new under da sun. PEACE bro

All right --- I'm a small fish in a big pond here, but I'm getting tired-as-Hell-of-hearing

the *accusation* of "personal attacks". I'm wondering how other's *categorize* them??

I've been accused of personal attacks by some of the docvic "worshippers", for simply stating things I've heard, and calling the poster on it in question for what they *claimed* to be truth. Fer what it's worth -- I haven't got a beef with ANYONE here, but some folks sure like to make it seem that way.

It's ironic (to me) that those of us who have knowledge of wrong-doing by twi to the *believer populace*, and say so to (certain) posters here get accused of being *personal attackers*. All in all -- I see the *attacking* coming from the docvic worshippers. Hanging on to a *legacy* (if you will), that is comparable to the broken cistern that holds no water.

As I said -- I have no beef with anyone here, but some folks seem to have the blinders on their eyes.

It's a sorry state of affairs, when folks give FIRST-HAND witness to events, and they are ignored by others.

I started this thread so as not to detract from the other one in *About the Way*.

Discuss, or ignore. I needed to *vent*.

Paw/ Mods -- if this is in the wrong forum -- please move it.

I don't post here that much, but man oo man - your like the man bro. people just get over it and move on you are all sooo bitter

My Fellowship Coordinator got in my face in Atlanta GA he started pointing his finger at my chest. I am 6ft4 225 12% body fat...

I almost didn't reply to this thread but decided this may be the right time to try to convince you that all we have been taught in TWI concerning prophecy and Revelation has been wrong. Actually 99% of Christianity today is wrong concerning Revelation. Most of you will think what I'm about to show you is the craziest thing you have ever heard. I thought the same thing when I 1st started reading about an alternative view of Revelation. It took me 2 years of study to become convinced of this alternative view. I hope you do not just blow this off as some wacked out theory.

OK people are you ready to read something shocking? The gathering together/rapture has already happened! It happened in 70 A.D.

I'm actually laughing as I'm typing this because I know to most of you this will seem like the most wacked-out crazy thing anyone could say regarding prophecy. However it is true regardless.

The book of Revelation has already taken place except for the Satan being released to deceive the nations again Rev 20:7, battle of Gog and Magog Rev 20:8, the final judgement Rev 20:12, and new heavens and earth Rev21.We are now in the 1000 year reign of Christ. A figurative 1000 years not literal. It just means a very long period of time when Christ is reigning from his heavenly throne. This guy thinks we are currently in the period when satan has been released after the 1000 years are finished: http://www.preteristarchive.com/PartialPre...ncan_pp_01.html[/url

Wow bro like you are da man. thanks for sharing, what insight. You can make alot of $$$$ sprewing that stuff . Sense you have such insight can to tell me If Mike vick will ever play in the NFL??????

Doglover,

Where it is true, we are saved from "the wrath", we are not saved from tribulation. IMHO, I venture to suspect we have about 2-5 years left before our country and the world starts to melt down spiritually. It's already illegal to quote Bible Verses in the Malls or pray in public settings. (Praying in public settings has always seemed odd to me anyway). Our freedom of speech is all but gone and our wonderful congressional body has made sure we think it odd that anyone reads the Bible.

I was talking with a friend just today. For years I have recited, "No man knows the the times or the seasons which the Father hath put in his own power." Actually, the verse reads,

"It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power. 8But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth".

Several things to notice here. Jesus Christ was talking to the disciples, in their administration. Had he said, "Sorry guys, but I'm not doin' that for a few thousand years, all hell would have broken loose.

IMHO I don't believe we can know the day or even the year and month. But there are some logical indicators to observe.

1. Genesis 6 says:

4There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

5And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

Giants are suppose to refer to people who have committed the unforgivable sin Futher examination of the next verse is indicative that the earth was over run by them. God had to clean house or the red thread would break.

2. Genesis 11:1-4

1And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech. 2And it came to pass, as they journeyed from the east, that they found a plain in the land of Shinar; and they dwelt there. 3And they said one to another, Go to, let us make brick, and burn them thoroughly. And they had brick for stone, and slime had they for mortar. 4And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth.

It was starting up again. The entire habitation of earth were setting themselves up to saturate humanity with men born of the wrong seed. Had God not confounded them with different languages, the earth would have become overflowing with them again. God fixed that.

3. Today we have the internet and communications at the touch of a finger. Our cultures around the world are waxing worse and worse just like it says in II Tim 3:13: Just think! The Muslims we are fighting are all over 30 years old. You think their children will be Buddhist? Or even desire peace with the west?

3But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.

There will come a day when no one else in the world will want to hear or allow themselves to hear the Word taught. At that point, there will be no reason for believers to be around. God does know when that time will be. We can know it won't be long. He didn't forbid that as far as I know.

Granted, it may be not be for another 1000 years but then, if it is, it won't matter a whole hexx of a lot, will it. If I'm wrong, I'm sure someone will let me know. Probably someone who objects to my paying attention to advanced classes I took.

I'm use to rejection..... I was married 20 years.

Now for you who love prophets of doom, this should be fun to spin on.

How close is it do you know?

Another 1000 years to wait no way you can't be serious!

Where is the promise of his coming ...

Why do people of the WAY and Pass Assoicates of that group get irritated about the Return of Christ is this a AnitChrist Spirit?

mis jor op4

This may go on the Doctrinal thread ... but here goes anyway: Folks that do not understand that the Book of Revelation applies to Israel and not to the Church of Grace to which we belong wrongly read into it that we are on Earth for the sun being darkened, the moon being turned to blood, the locusts, all the tribulations ... but the Bible's real clear on the fact that the Christian believer is "saved from the wrath which is to come" ... we'll all be gathered together with Jesus Christ in the air and with him when all this stuff is going on on Earth ... that's not just a Way doctrine ... folks that don't know any better and that are being told that by fear--mongering ministers eager to increase their congregations are the ones that promote that.

NOT being here for that stuff is a great part of what "being saved" means for us ... but yeah, I'm with you ... even if the Communists (or whoever took over), it would not be tapes and boots I would want. I thought the MAL pack was stupid when we did it in residence and I still do. (I have a "hold-over" from that time ... it's still hard for me to let my gas tank get below half full.) I remember a couple of the assistant Corps Coordinators at Emporia being very boastful about how "I wouldn't want to have you with me." I remember sitting in the Emporia Dining Room thinking, as P*t P**w**l talked, "Yeah, we're even ... I wouldn't want to go anywhere with you either." The strong feeling he and D*v* B*d**d promoted is that we were simply not spiritual enough to go with them. I remember D*v* teaching us (or more specifically, I guess, the guys) to get dogs off their trail when they were being chased -- to urinate on a tree and carry a vial of cayenne pepper to apply on top of the urine ... it would mess up the tracking dogs' sense of smell when they traced the scent of you/your urine to the tree and they would lose the scent (I am not kidding ... this happened my first year in-residence). Oh, they were *SO* spiritual ...

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I mean talk about someone who was ripe to be had, the guy lived and worshiped the vagina. He would do anything to get it and with that kind of predictable behavior it would not be hard to set a guy up for a fall.

But most women in the TWI love a man with power Craig was played like a puppet, but most of those women threw themselves at him I observed this behavior over and over and over. Craig was a country boy who thought he had game, but like I said he got played by females who were masters at acting, con, deceit, and using the fruit to get promoted or their status advanced. They knew how to play Craig and run game they have been doing it for most of their lives. I fault the women they knew the worms that were being open up here, so the chickens just came home to da hen house.

Great post Twinot that's real stuff finially thanks for posting

What's that all about, Cap't?

From whom or what, the way?

Name your source, please :-)

Whats sup with you bro, like chill out bro: Besides Groucho says it's ya digg: I can't believe you asked me that. You got eyes and ears like use them bro.

by the way you think Barry Bonds will get the record!!! go Barry

Yeah Captain, I'm here...

...My remark about Bonds was used to illustrate my point about Donna and Rosie...perhaps another thread in the open forum would be appropriate to discuss "Mr. Natural"?...after reading some of your responses, I imagine you probably think that Mark McGwire was clean also, that Amway is a good career move, and Jimmy Hoffa is buried in the end zone where the NY. Giants play football....

...by the way, I have some land in Florida that you might be interested in.

Land ... florida like cool bro hit me up if your serious will you accept Iraqi DINARS? ... but thanks for reply on Barry you are still da(( funny)) man Go Barry Go for the Record!

Ex thanks for the invite but maybe next time.

Peace

Groucho are you out there???? I am still waiting to get that statement resolved, Barry Bonds doesn't do STERIODS ok Natural say it with me N-A-T-U-R-A-L

What you support and believe plus allow in your life is not my Buss nor concern, more power to ya enjoy yourself get off , do what you do, think what you think.

peace

what in the heck are you talking about, captain ?????

Excathedra woo easy baby girl like chill ok, I see some of what you are saying about Donna, no biggie she already has a TRUST FUND, but what really got me is the " Mr. Baseball Barry Bonds" comment made by A.K.A. Groucho, Barry is all natural dude. Go Barry Bonds you rule!