Ron G.

Happy Birthday Miss Krys!!!

you're very much loved here at the Grease Spot!!

Since y'all rule out the gorgeous, comfortable, beautiful, pleasant and friendly Ozarks, how about near where LittleHawk lives in Kentucky. I hear he lives just a mile or so from Knob Creek and I've been wanting to do that some October, too.

Just an idea.

Prayers for the Boy Scouts of America would be appreciated.

I'm sure everyone has heard about the tragedy at the national Jamboree in Virginia where four Scout leaders were killed, and several Scouts got sick from the stifling heat later in the week,

Another tragedy occurred this past Friday in Fresno, CA where a troop was camping and struck by lightning, killing one and leaving another brain dead. Several others were injured and one life was saved by Scouts who acted calmly, quickly and courageously.

They performed CPR on one Scout for over an hour while others ran for 25 minutes to a ranger station to call for the helicopter that flew them out.

Scouts is the best thing going anywhere for boys, building the character, strength and skills necessary to become men.

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FRESNO, California (AP) -- Lightning struck a group of Boy Scouts taking shelter from a storm, killing the troop leader and leaving a 13-year-old boy brain-dead in the latest tragedy to befall the organization this week, authorities and the teen's grandfather said.

Six others were injured when the lightning bolt made a direct strike on a tarp the Scouts had set up in a meadow in Sequoia National Park on Thursday.

Ryan Collins, 13, was being kept on a ventilator so that his organs could be donated, the boy's grandfather said Friday. Collins was listed in critical condition at the University Medical Center in Fresno, but his family had given up hope.

"He would never recover or anything else," grandfather Bill Collins said.

The lightning strike came just days after four Scout leaders were electrocuted while putting up a tent at the National Scout Jamboree in Virginia. Dozens of Scouts were sickened by the stifling heat two days later at the jamboree. (Full story)

At least one of the injured in the lightning strike was kept alive only because the troop managed to administer CPR for an hour, park ranger Alex Picavet said. It is not known which injured person that was.

"That's amazing," Picavet said. "It's very difficult. It's probably because of their Boy Scout training."

The assistant scoutmaster, Steve McCullagh, 29, was killed instantly when the bolt struck, the Tulare County coroner's office said.

"He didn't even make it off the mountain," said Sue Collins, the boy's mother, crying along with her husband and younger son at the hospital. "It's horrible. It's a fluke."

Teens ran 25 minutes for help

One troop member was being kept for observation at the Fresno hospital, and all the others were treated and released from another hospital, authorities said.

The scout group from St. Helena, which included five adults and seven teenage scouts, had been camping for a week as part of a nine-day backcountry hike along the John Muir Trail.

A lightning bolt made a direct strike on one of two tarps they had set up in a meadow. Two teenagers ran 25 minutes to a ranger station after the strike, and five helicopters flew in to evacuate the group.

"They did the best they could in the situation they were in," Picavet said. "They didn't have metal poles, and stayed away from high points."

Collins said his grandson was a scout for more than three years and loved the outdoors.

"He was a fabulous boy. He was doing what he loved to do," Collins said. "It's just a tremendous shock to everybody."

Apology over accident

Meanwhile, National Boy Scouts officials apologized Friday for remarks implying that four adult volunteers shared responsibility for their own deaths while setting up a tent beneath a power line at the national Jamboree in Virginia.

Spokesman Stephen Medlicott said the group wanted to clear up "some confusion" about the scouts' position.

The Boy Scouts have "not assigned blame" to the Alaska Scout leaders involved in Monday's deaths, national officials said in a statement issued Thursday.

"We apologize for any statement we've made which might be construed as assigning blame."

The statement came a day after Jamboree spokesman Gregg Shields said the Alaska group had ignored scouting teachings by putting the tent under a power line at Fort A.P. Hill, the Army base where the 10-day event is being held. He also said the group leaders had taken the "somewhat unusual" step of hiring a contractor to help with the task.

"Boy Scouts are taught not to put their tents under trees or under power lines. I don't know what happened in that case," Shields had said Wednesday.

The Virginia-based tent company hired for the job sent two workers to set up two dining canopies at the Jamboree, Alaska Scout officials said. The tent workers set up the first canopy while the leaders and Scouts set up sleeping tents, Bill Haines, a Scout executive in Alaska, said in a statement Thursday.

The accident occurred when the contractors asked the Alaska leaders for help raising the second canopy, Haines said.

Three adults, including the two tent workers, were injured. One of the injured people returned to the Jamboree after being released from the hospital.

The Army is investigating the accident. The Boy Scouts are "cooperating closely," Medlicott said.

Copyright 2005 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.

I sometimes post things to get conversation going and to see where it ends up. I like to see opposing sides of an idea or situation...especially here because most arguements are typically well thought out.

I appreciate Belles post since I've had a little experience with LEO's and have some first hand knowledge of what they sometimes have to deal with.

This one was particularly interesting, however, because here in Arkansas, we had what was dubbed "The Blue Light" rapist.

This guy dressed up like a cop, drove around at night in what appeared to be an unmarked squad car with a blue light mounted in the window and victimized young women for over a year, if I remember right. It was a very long time.

His actions, covering four or five counties, created such havoc that not only were young women terrorized, the police were virtually powerless to enforce simple traffic laws. People started to refuse to stop on a regular basis.

By the time the guy was caught, in several towns, local police were forced into a situation where they could no longer stop violators at night unless they escorted them to the nearest place with witnesses and then show their ID or they could summon another squad car.

When LEO's fail to treat all citizens with respect and courtesy or when private citizens can no longer determine which is the law enforcer and which is the law breaker, then chaos must soon ensue.

Berkely is just full of buffoons like this clown, it seems.

Satori...

I think somebody already came up with that idea. At Scout camp I got recertified for First Aid/CPR/AED and the instructor suggested that we should check wallets if the victim was unconscious. Nothing was mentioned about cell phones.

Maybe I need to go get recertified again since I have no clue how to operate a cell phone well enough to retrieve that information.

If people follow your suggestion, how can they become more reliant on technocrap instead of relying on themselves?

Sometimes you think dangerous thoughts, sir.

And the kops have no clue why no one respects them anymore.

http://www.wral.com/news/4779724/detail.html

Woman In Trouble With Law After Questioning Officer's Identity

73-Year-Old Cited For Misdemeanor Obstructing & Delaying

RALEIGH, N.C. -- What are you supposed to do when a police officer knocks on your door at night? Officials with the Raleigh Police Department say in a particular case, the answer was obvious, but an elderly woman who had her doubts got charged with a crime.

Marie Venezia, 73, is in trouble with the law after she questioned a police officer's identity.

Marie Venezia, 73, lives by herself in her Raleigh home. Last Tuesday night, a Raleigh police officer knocked on her door and asked her about damage to a neighbor's fence.

"I said 'I don't know what you want me to say. I don't know who it was.' He said, 'You know who it was.' I said, "I don't know who it was." He said you do," she said. "And at that point, I began to wonder if this guy really was a policeman because I didn't think officers acted like that."

Venezia told the officer she was going to call 911 to confirm who he was.

"He said, 'Don't close that door.' I said I am going to close it and then I went and called 911," she said.

When Venezia came back, the officer charged her with misdemeanor obstructing and delaying, issuing her a ticket.

"The exchange that occurred between the officer and the resident was unproductive to the point that the officer felt the charge was necessary," said Jim Sughrue, a representative with the Raleigh Police Department.

There have been a number of prior cases in Wilson and Raleigh about people posing as law enforcement officers. Plus, a WRAL investigation found a Web site selling badges. However, the Raleigh Police Department said those are unfair comparisons because in this case, the officer was in full uniform and his patrol car was in plain sight.

Raleigh police officials say when an officer is in full uniform and the car is visible, just cooperate. WRAL checked with other agencies and most say it depends on the situation. The Chapel Hill Police Department actually encourages double checking.

I don't have a cell phone, and probably never will since they don't work in this area...no towers around.

Being the daddy of a boy who just turned 12, I find this image a little disturbing, but certainly worthy of note.

I know not who, where, when or what except it's a modern photo and not some relic from the 3rd Reich. Maybe it's from a movie.

Hi Krys

What do you mean "special water"? What makes it special? Is it yellow?

Just wondering.

Ron

Eggs Ozarkia

Take a pound of ham, a pound of pork loin, a pound of venison loin and a pound of bacon and grind and mix them altogether with some salt, black pepper, sage and oregano making a sausage. I keep about ten pounds of this sausage in the freezer all the time.

Take about a half pound or whatever it takes to feed your family, crumble it up in a skillet with some chopped onion and fry it up. Then take about a half cup or so of flour,then mix it up real good with the fried sausage until it's soaked up the grease. Put in some milk, get the skillet good and hot, and mix it all up, stirring constantly until it becomes gravy. Don't let it come to a boil.

Take a nice hot biscuit, split it in half, butter it lightly, then cover the halves with your sausage gravy. Put a fried egg on top of each biscuit and then a slice of extra sharp cheddar cheese. Stick it in the broiler until the cheese melts and eat.

Goobered Hash Browns (to go with the eggs Ozarkia)

Get some potatoes and grate them into a skillet with hot fat, add some chopped onions, a cup or so of UNSALTED dry roasted peanuts and some chopped sweet green bell pepper. Fry it all up until the potatoes are golden brown, then place them on the plate next to the Eggs Ozarkia. Eat.

Best cooked over an open fire and best enjoyed with coffee perked on a campfire.

This breakfast is popular those cold November mornings in deer camps here in the Ozarks.

A physician claimed that the following are actual comments made by his patients(predominately male) while he was performing a rectal exam:

1. "Take it easy, Doc. You're boldly going where no man has gone before!"

2. "Find Amelia Earhart yet?"

3. "Can you hear me NOW?"

4. "Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we there yet?"

5. "You know, in Oklahoma, we're now legally married."

6. "Any sign of the trapped miners, Chief?"

7. "You put your left hand in, you take your left hand out..."

8. "Hey! Now I know how a Muppet feels!"

9. "If your hand doesn't fit, you must quit!

10. "Hey Doc, let me know if you find my dignity."

11. "You used to be an executive at Enron, didn't you?"

12. "God, Now I know why I am not gay."

And the best one of all...

13. "Could you write a note for my wife saying that my head is not up there."

MTGal...

Our Cubs did day camp last week, too. I missed it cuz I was at Boy Scout Camp, but kept tabs.

I have a dual identity...on Fridays, I'm the intrepid Assistant Scout Master and on Mondays, I'm the Webelos Leader. Andrew crossed over last May, but I have to remain Webelos leader for at least another year. I have blue epaulets on Monday and red ones on Friday. I'm thinking of velcro on my patches.

Remember MTgal...never forget...

It's ONLY one hour per week.

My 2nd year Webelos' earned 3 activity pins each last week and two will have their Arrow of Light by the time Blue and Gold rolls around.

Maybe I'll meet you in a year or two since I'm on the waiting list for Philmont.

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Does that mean the message I send to people is *Push My Buttons*?

No, it means you do as that old Chuck Berry song says and enjoy your ding-a-ling.

When I was in college, I had a sign on my dorm room door that read, "Knock softly and firmly because I like soft and firm knockers."

Ahhhh, those were the days!

I was surprised to see the Harry Potter debate still raging. I thought after all the movies to date and and how everyone had been exposed to it, most folks resigned themselves to accepting it as relatively benign.

I got to thinking that the debate will likely never go away because Harry Potter books are a symbol. They're symbolic of a greater cultural war going on that's affecting the most primal parts of our psyches...A war for the hearts and minds of our progeny.

People take their symbols very seriously. Remember when a great number of Way folks slapped that green logo or a dove on their Bibles, bumpers, windows, lapels, walls, etc. etc.? Then they faithfully attended fellowship, ABS'd, listened to their leaders, obeyed them and directed their lives to be what that symbol represented. There were other symbols like VPW's voice, LCM's style etc. (How many read their Bibles and had the words they read go thru their minds in VPW's voice with his delivery? or LCM's?)

People also despise, with equal passion, symbols they perceive as "opposing"? I remember a fellowship one evening in a suburb of San Antonio when, after the coffee and cookies, the guys walked to a nearby construction site where a church was being built, and relieved themselves on a cross that was laying on the site waiting to be put up on the roof of the church.

Harry Potter books are symbolic of the pagan/secular/progressive worldview which is seen as dangerous to those who hold an opposing worldview.

They're written for children making them not only symbolic of that worldview, but symbolic of the much more deeply felt assault on young minds.

They're symbolic of all the evil mentioned in the lead post, in many peoples minds, and for that reason, this debate probably won't end, but rather escalate as the other evils increase.

/phsychobabble mode off

Now that my truck is running good, Andrew and I want to come if it's not too far. I wanna try Sudos stew and bring some of my prize winnin chili and some smoked venison.

The Buffalo National River, in the heart of the Ozarks, is beautiful in the fall with canoeing, kayaking, white water and fishing.

I wonder if they'll offer a delicious haggis on their menu?

People are still debating Harry Potter books??

Actually, I discourage Andrew from reading it, tho I don't tell him he can't. It's not because of the content, but because books written since 1990 or so have a much, much lower literacy level (Raf might refer to this as "fog level"). The older kids literature is, the more sophisticated the writing, style and vocabulary.

He's been reading H.G. Wells, Jack London, Poe and, just so he can feel cool and have something to talk to his buds about, an occassional H.P. Lovecraft story. I recently bought him a biography of William Wallace (remember the movie "Braveheart"?) by G.A. Henty. It was written in the 1890s, I think, and is tedious reading by anyones standards, tho he's doing okay with it.

I, personally, think kids should be allowed to read freely (within the parameters of common decency) with lots and lots of parental oversight.

I seem to recall...back in the 80's and early 90's...for all the Way rhetoric about secular vs. Way literature...there sure were a lot of Wayfers with their noses stuck in Stephen King books.

Offensive (to some) language contained herein:

Mods feel free to move this to a more appropriate forum, if need be.

*Hitler[AoE] has joined the game.*

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*deGaulle has joined the game.*

Roosevelt: hey sup

T0J0: y0

Stalin: hi

Churchill: hi

Hitler[AoE]: cool, i start with panzer tanks!

paTTon: lol more like panzy tanks

T0JO: lol

Roosevelt: o this ****in sucks i got a depression!

benny-tow: haha america sux

Stalin: hey hitler you dont fight me i dont fight u, cool?

Hitler[AoE]; sure whatever

Stalin: cool

deGaulle: **** Hitler rushed some1 help

Hitler[AoE]: lol byebye frenchy

Roosevelt: i dont got **** to help, sry

Churchill: wtf the luftwaffle is attacking me

Roosevelt: get antiair guns

Churchill: i cant afford them

benny-tow: u n00bs know what team talk is?

paTTon: stfu

Roosevelt: o yah hit the navajo button guys

deGaulle: eisenhower ur worthless come help me quick

Eisenhower: i cant do **** til rosevelt gives me an army

paTTon: yah hurry the **** up

Churchill: d00d im gettin pounded

deGaulle: this is ****in weak u guys suck

*deGaulle has left the game.*

Roosevelt: im gonna attack the axis k?

benny-tow: with what? ur wheelchair?

benny-tow: lol did u mess up ur legs AND ur head?

Hitler[AoE]: ROFLMAO

T0J0: lol o no america im comin 4 u

Roosevelt: wtf! thats bull**** u fags im gunna kick ur asses

T0JO: not without ur harbors u wont! lol

Roosevelt: u little bitch ill get u

T0J0: mac i'm totally kicking ur foot

MacRthr: BRB AFK

Hitler[AoE]: wtf

Hitler[AoE]: america hax, u had depression and now u got a huge ****in

army

Hitler[AoE]: thats bull**** u hacker

Churchill: lol no more france for u hitler

Hitler[AoE]: tojo help me!

T0J0: wtf u want me to do, im on the other side of the world retard

Hitler[AoE]: fine ill clear you a path

Stalin: WTF u asshoel! WE HAD A ****IN TRUCE

Hitler[AoE]: i changed my mind lol

benny-tow: haha

benny-tow: hey ur losing ur guys in africa im gonna need help in italy

soon sum1

T0J0: o **** i cant help u i got my hands full

Hitler[AoE]: im 2 busy 2 help

Roosevelt: yah thats right bitch im comin for ya

Stalin: church help me

Churchill: like u helped me before? sure ill just sit here

Stalin: dont be an foot

Churchill: dont be a commie. oops too late

Eisenhower: LOL

benny-tow: hahahh oh **** help

Hitler: o man ur ****ed

paTTon: oh what now bitch

Roosevelt: whos the cripple now lol

*benny-tow has been eliminated.*

benny-tow: lame

Roosevelt: gj patton

paTTon: thnx

Hitler[AoE]: WTF eisenhower hax hes killing all my ****

Hitler[AoE]: quit u hacker so u dont ruin my record

Eisenhower: Nuts!

benny~tow: wtf that mean?

Eisenhower: meant to say nutsack lol finger slipped

paTTon: coming to get u hitler u paper hanging hun ....

Stalin: rofl

T0J0: HAHAHHAA

Hitler[AoE]: u guys are ****in gay

Hitler[AoE]: ur never getting in my city

*Hitler[AoE] has been eliminated.*

benny~tow: OMG u noob you killed yourself

Eisenhower: ROFLOLOLOL

Stalin: OMG LMAO!

Hitler[AoE]: WTF i didnt click there omg this game blows

*Hitler[AoE] has left the game*

paTTon: hahahhah

T0J0: WTF my teammates are n00bs

benny~tow: shut up noob

Roosevelt: haha wut a moron

paTTon: wtf am i gunna do now?

Eisenhower: yah me too

T0J0: why dont u attack me o thats right u dont got no ships lololol

Eisenhower: **** u

paTTon: lemme go thru ur base commie

Stalin: go to hell lol

paTTon: **** this **** im goin afk

Eisenhower: yah this is gay

MacRthr: k back!

*Roosevelt has left the game.*

Hitler[AoE]: wtf?

Eisenhower: **** now we need some1 to join

*tru_m4n has joined the game.*

tru_m4n: hi all

T0J0: hey

Stalin: sup

Churchill: hi

tru_m4n: OMG OMG OMG i got all his stuff!

tru_m4n: NUKES! HOLY **** I GOT NUKES

Stalin: d00d gimmie some plz

tru_m4n: no way i only got like a couple

Stalin: omg dont be gay gimmie nuculer secrets

T0J0: wtf is nukes?

T0J0: holy ****holy****hoyl****!

*T0J0 has been eliminated.*

*The Allied team has won the game!*

Eisenhower: awesome!

Churchill: gg noobs no re

T0J0: thats bull**** u ****in suck

*T0J0 has left the game.*

*Eisenhower has left the game.*

Stalin: next game im not going to be on ur team, u guys didnt help me for

****

Churchill: wutever, we didnt need ur help neway dumbass

tru_m4n: l8r all

benny~tow: bye

Churchill: l8r

Stalin: **** u all

MacRthr: **** u commie!!!

MacRthr: ur next bitch!

tru_m4n: shut up commie lol

*tru_m4n has left the game.*

benny~tow: lololol u commie

Churchill: ROFL

Churchill: bye commie

*Churchill has left the game.*

*benny~tow has left the game.*

*MacRthr has left the game.*

Stalin: i hate u all fags

*Stalin has left the game.*

paTTon: lol no1 is left

paTTon: weeeee i got a jeep

*paTTon has been eliminated.*

paTTon: o ****!

*paTTon has left the game.*

R.I.P. James Doohan AKA Montgomery Scott

I remember when I lived in San Antonio, there was a huge Polish population. I really enjoyed shooting their weddings (I R a photographer) though there was little difference between a Polish wedding and a Mexican wedding. They both like to form a big circle and dance around the photographer and hand him drinks while he happily snaps away. Loved it, loved it, loved it!!!

The highest expression of true multiculturalism was in New Braunfels at Oktoberfest where you get bratwurst or knockwurst with saurkraut and hot salsa wrapped in a tortilla and wash it down with a Corona or Dos Equis.

Of course, Sunday morning, you have to get a barbacoa taco with some onion, tomato, cilantro, jalapenos and a little horseradish or the experience just isn't complete.

Ya GOTTA love south Texas!!

Okay, back to our regularly scheduled thread...

Teevee really sucks when you can go to a really cool Mexican or Polish party (reception), take pictures and get paid for it.

Who needs teevee, anyway?

Died this evening.

Go with God, Westy.