DrWearWord

My doctor told me, you know you can't stay on this drug forever, eventually it will start working against you. At first I was mad because he gave no alternative but after I left his office and thought about It i realized he was right and only looking out for my best interest. Tylenol was the worst part of it actually. Taking the drugs out of the equation actually lowered my pain considerably to a manageable level. (That is once I found out I had a vitamin d deficiency and addressed that too.)

anyone have success or advice for getting free?

I was on hydrocodone for 4 years for back pain. I did not abuse it but I just quit cold turkey. I found that the effect of the drug on my liver was making my back pain much worse by overtaxing my liver so it could not do other necessary functions. Quitting dropped a whole degree from my back pain. I had one restless night where I could not sleep and tossed and turned and then I was free! I will never go back to it again. Get your vitamin D level checked. Alcohol is also very bad for the liver. Both opiates and alcohol eat the vitamin D in your body leaving none for bodily repair. JUST QUIT and get high on the feeling that you will be clean and your body will be able to repair itself MUCH better over time. LET THE SUNSHINE!

Back in godaddy's arms you say? :)

lol...your funny

Thank-You CMAN hope to meet up with you on a2k :)

Please let me know you are x wayers if you respond in any of my threads on a2k, private message me at rexred@maine.rr.com

I check that email addy many times a day.

Don't assume I will remember you I am really terrible with names.

Voices crying in the wilderness

I feel like Moses.

This is not bad thing I think...

I have been holding this off, been sort of numb like those unbelieving believers in disbelief, if there is such a thing, thinking is this is a dream, pinch me, grease spot will never go away... I have resigned myself to the possibility at least that this forum will soon be gone.

I have been moonlighting on this thread in another thread called a2k or otherwise able to know.

http://able2know.org/

As Wierwille would say, so that we know that we know that we know. hehe

This site is the place I suggest that we move en-mass. sorta like the Khazars fictitiously did.

I suggest you all sign up and keep your GS names so people will know who you are from here.

I have been a part of this a2k group for almost ten years and before that we at this site were all part of a site called ABUZZ that was, I believe, owned and operated by the new york times. The site got too unruly for the times to care to maintain so they shut down abuzz and we all moved to a2k.

The site is nearly identical to grease spot except for a few differences.

When you post something you have about three minutes to retract it and after that it is like the ten commandments written in stone. So what you say follows you around, like my err "penis" thread that i thought was a good idea to start one night after i had had too much communion wine. :)

I asked a2k to take it down but, no, they thought my reputation should handle it. :)

Other than your posts and replies not being deletable the site is nearly similar but not identical (as the harmony of the gospels go).

As for the people on a2k, they are not a huge forum so you will over time learn who they are mostly.

They like me and put up with me but I have never told them what the source of my biblical knowledge originated from. I just continually amaze them with my biblical knowledge of the scriptures. But I have kept "the way" out of it all.

I know the word probably better than anyone else on the site and they all know I am openly gay.

They are mostly a liberal crowd with a few conservatives who still believe the earth is six thousand years old.

Don't be discouraged if you get a unwarm welcome they are usually mean to religious types (at first) but there is strength in numbers. Sign up get an avatar, say hi to me I am "rexred" on the site. Please vote up my threads that you like and add any comments you like too.

I have to admit at first i laid on the way doctrine a bit thick at first but over time I mellowed out on the pfal quotes. Now I am an agnostic and I switched parties from a republican to democrat in the time I have been on the a2k forum.

They have a thread called WA2K run by a member named Letty which corresponds the the "song of the moment" thread here and an a2k favorite topic is of course evolution versus creationism.

Just ask a question or start a discussion there and you are off to the races.

Even my least favorite members there are still tolerable to me. Over time i have become friends with members I once used to loathe. In ways they have softened out some of my rough edges and i thank them for that. They are a highly intelligent crowd with many many thousands of posts under their belt.

You will find a2k's forum set up much like this one, actually, I think it is a tiny bet easier to navigate.

One thing that has set this GS forum apart definitely from a2k is GS's members are infinity more kind. I attribute this virtue as coming from the bible and our common past. But they are loveable on a2k in their own way. They could use our presence.

Some of my discussions on a2k are, "can plants hear" and "are rocks alive"? I drove them crazy with my sublime sentimentalism. :)

I am liked and admired on a2k because i go back to the very beginning with them all, but they keep their distance, for instance my cult of zero thread I started there too and no one wanted to participate in it. Yet here on GS i got several people highly interested in the discussion. That does not mean though that they did not read everything i wrote on the subject and find it interesting but they left my thread literally at zero. I forgot to mention there is a voting system there. So a few people voted my cult of zero thread up and a few voted it down out of whatever jealousy or because they just don't like me. In the end it has steadily remained at zero.. :( This is where having a lot of you there could benefit us as a group of semi like minded folk. We have one another still to lean on.

Wait till they realize there is not only one of me in this world! :)

They know I am ordained but as I said I have been going as an agnostic lately because I feel like opening myself up to new spiritual experiences.

Not quite tossed about by every wind of doctrine but more like a pebble rather than a huge rock or piece of dust. :)

I prefer uncertainty these days.

Well DrWearWord has pointed "the way". Look forward to you all joining up and saying hi.

PLEASE vote up my threads on a2k if you don't mind. Let's support one another there and show them how real kindness can prevail. I have been the underdog there and I feel like Elisha needing to be ministered to by the presence of my own kind. I have been holding this a2k forum up alone from an x way believers stand point for over ten years including my time on ABUZZ.

If I have ruffled a few feathers here I am sorry, I have opinions and sometime I am simply "off" like the next guy.

Please add yourself as a friend on a2k and I will be there where you can all reconnect I would be honored. All new replies to threads show up in your email if you reply in them. You use tags like religion and spirituality on your discussions.

Again my name on a2k is "rexred". (RexRed is my stage name in the music industry...)

I will look for you all there, see you on the other side :)

Please at least say hi.

Love and God bless you all

DrWearWord

My latest song, please comment and vote on youtube. Thanks! Rex :)

That's you? Very cool, indeed! Thanks for sharing!

Yea I woke up in the middle of the night with this song on my mind so I got up and made it... a couple nights ago. :)

I just couldn't let it pass me by. Thanks for the listen and compliments. :)

Please visit my youtube channel and leave votes and comments.

Love

Rex

Very nice.

Just the right amount of "retro" flavor.

Very nice vocals, too.

You might enjoy THIS guy. (James Hunter)

Thanks Waysider very much :)

Thanks for the James Hunter enjoyed it very much, heard some great rhythms in the link you sent and great vocals too.

My latest song only a couple nights old.

Been playing around with r and b styles...

After making it I realized it reminded me a bit of Joe Fair, Smokey Robinson and errr, Boy George all rolled into one. :)

Let's Groove, RexRed

Enjoy! Dance a little :)

Edited to some of my album art and a few photos.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghz4_kikLkE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H56fUCULkvg

My latest song only a couple days old :)

http://indieland.com/song/4191

My latest Please vote and leave a comment of support on the youtube... subscribe to my channel and become a friend. Just a bit of ecological activism for mama earth... :)

Information seems to be both flexible and inflexible; there has to be both a nugget and a frame of reference. If one electron can be part of an electrical current, another cam be part of a Carbon Atom. While each electron is an electron, similar to it's counterpart, one flows along a concuctive path while the other hurtles along in it's proper electron shell, circling an atomic nucleus. They have different frames of reference and hence can be seen to be performing different functions. People utilize Info in a similar fashion. They see the same event and see it differently. So who's wrong, who's right,... are they both accurate?

Maybe. And why not? Which bit of information, then, prevails?

Electrons interact with all visible matter in some noticable way. Neutrinos don't. In the next hour, billions will pass through you. Do they matter? they're all but invisible. Still they are not Zero. The do have mass, they are near-zero, but not zero, yet the information that governs them is zero. it has no mass, no charge no direction, no spin no velocity, no gravity, no energy. But the Neutrino is giuded by that information as long as it exists. It is a neutrino. It only ever does neutrino things. How does it know to do that.

It's information tells it that it is. Otherwise it might be a Quark or an Anti-neutrino?

No,... it knows it's a neutrino One of the Leptons - and not just any neutrino,... it knows if it's an electron, muon, or a tau neutrino (yes, there are different kinds)

How does the neutrino know what it is? No one alive knows how it knows, but it knows. An odd question then is where did all the fundamental particles get their instructions? they add zero to their mass or existance - yet they cannot exist properly with out that bit of zero. information.

Perhaps it is like that Star Trek episode about antimatter. That there is not only a zero but a negative domain that is equally as intricate as the physical world. This intricate detail is somehow connected to our own and codes for the complex action that the seemingly simple physics of tiny particles on the positive scale obey.We will never be able to know the exact complexity of the negative domain only observe the effects of it through the actions and reactions of the tiniest particles of the positive domain.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv5qLEYoSHM

i have no problem with 'accurate' anything

i have no problem with 'truth'

neither am i concerned with their use

building understanding of the bigger picture would be apparent

even Pilate was wise enough to ask

'what is truth?' to his credit

I have a problem with the word accurate... It implies that the bible is both truthful and accurate...

The word was tossed around left and right and used as a lure to get us all to believe in the way doctrine.

I don't believe the bible fits like a hand in a glove neither is accurate nor truthful. That does not mean it does not contain truth but so does life, look, readers digest and time.. :)

No I don't think paganism so much.

I tend to think the water of the Word actually.

And I don't see spirit of accurate knowledge.

Keeping in mind there is one Spirit.

Not being accurate is not so bad, and not as required as once thought.

As you said, I believe, it's a growing process.

I don't believe we lead it, but follow.

Sometimes what seems to be accurate is not at a newer time or progressive state.

Although it was then, when we thought it.

And I think it's not ourselves as the catalyst. Though we are needed.

But we can be in a frame of understanding where knowledge, wisdom, virtues, etc. are coming from.

Awareness is another way of progressing. Like enlightenment.

Not only is our progress changing, but also our awareness, or becoming more aware.

I understand your problem with the world accurate (I have the same problem with it myself) but if one has a problem with accurate then one would also have a problem with the word truth...

Both words seem to imply an arrogant superlative state of mind.

Your concerns are duly noted. Although it does not address that one would never have even heard of the word spirit or have a means of obtaining spirit. If we are not born in the first birth with it, without information, and hopefully that information would be truthful and, yes, accurate so as to receive the right spirit.

According to some info the flood was water, as in H2o.

Was it?

I have always thought that the water (H2O) of the flood represented paganism, but the word says what it means right?.

According to some info the flood was water, as in H2o.

Was it?

Is external and internal knowledge or info reliable?

There are other ways of knowing.

Not knowledge or information, enlightenment is one word for the ways.

The Holy Spirit is depending on what, accurate knowledge?

I don't think so. Pitch that accurate knowledge.

And leave it behind and let the Holy Spirit work it's own work in and out.

It does a lot better if we get out of it's way.

Proverbs 1:2

To know wisdom and instruction; to perceive the words of understanding;

All the work of men will not achieve this.

The bible does not "Pitch that accurate knowledge.

And leave it behind and let the Holy Spirit work it's own work in and out." Notice how often the word spirit is accompanied with "accurate knowledge" It is as if the spirit is defendant upon information...

spirit of holiness

spirit in the gospel

newness of spirit

Spirit of life

spiritually minded

Spirit of Christ

Spirit of God

Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead

spirit of bondage

firstfruits of the Spirit

mind of the Spirit

spirit of slumber

fervent in spirit

power of the Spirit

love of the Spirit

demonstration of the Spirit

for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God [accurate knowledge].

spirit of the world

comparing spiritual things [matters/information] with spiritual

spiritual judgment

spirit of meekness

present in spirit [spiritual presence]

Spirit in the bond of peace

spirit of your mind

spiritual songs

spiritual wickedness in high places

supplication in the Spirit

fellowship of the Spirit

spiritual understanding

your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless

sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:

justified in the Spirit

spirit of fear

angels spirits [messengers of knowledge]

ministering spirits

spiritual meat [associated with knowledge]

spiritual Rock

spiritual gifts

speaking by the Spirit

discerning of spirits

howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries

I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also.

spirits of the prophets

quickening spirit

earnest of the Spirit

spirit of faith

fruit of the Spirit

spirit of wisdom

eternal Spirit

For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also. [faith and spirit cometh by hearing]

sanctification of the Spirit

truth through the Spirit

built up a spiritual house

meek and quiet spirit

spirits in prison

spirit of glory

believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God:

Spirit is truth

seven Spirits which are before his throne

Spirit on the Lord's day

the seven Spirits of God

having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God

spirit of life

spirits of devils

spirit into the wilderness

foul spirit

spirit of prophecy

spirit to a great and high mountain

And the Spirit and the bride say

The bible does not leave the spirit alone to just do as it will, it is nearly always accompanied with some sort of other "information"... :)

In other words, the spirit is dead without accurate knowledge and knowledge is dead without the spirit.

I'm kidding around of course. ;) But what is the point. Anything (music, information, air-----------on and on) is all made up of spirit. Everything that exists is spirit. God created it.

To be more precise. [ Everything that was made was made by him.] I paraphrased John 1. 3

If God is spirit---------well what's your point, Dr?

Spirit is invisible right? So how can all things visible as you say be made of it? Is evil made of holy spirit too? The only way we would know of spirit is through our knowledge of spirit and the only way we are known is through God's knowledge of us.

Would the bible be the same if Roman 10:9 + 10 were missing? Where would the spirit be then? The holy spirit is dependent upon "accurate" knowledge.

Proverbs 1:2

To know wisdom and instruction; to perceive the words of understanding;

knowledge = ?

wisdom = ?

instruction = ?

perception = ?

words = ?

understanding = ?

do they all mean the same thing?

which one is information?

People use knowledge of the bible's laws to judge others yet do they really have understanding, wisdom, perception or spirit?

How can we judge people by a book that does not even know that while the great pyramids were being built this supposed great flood occurred? Where is the water mark on the pyramids? Is this knowledge without information? Is this knowledge credible enough to be putting one's faith into it?

My reply is meant in humility and kindness :)

depending on the end result

is information or knowledge needed?

sort of like instinct or design

is knowledge needed

if it ceases then what is really happening

inside

Thanks Cman, I don't know that quality of life and knowledge are separable...