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Buck - I emailed Paul V. for the lyrics. He emailed me back and told me he'd send them my way - that Kristina lives nearby. He's got his own website: Tricarico Music. There are some old pics on there some of you might get a kick out of.

I love that song, too. Mostly because it was one of the early tunes that didn't have any TWI jargon in it... nothing about "the abundant life" or "believing equals receiving" type stuff. It was pure hearted.

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Life, what is it but a dream? - Lewis Carroll

The Highest of the High

All he ever did was die for me

All he ever did was call my name

You can only sit there and cry for me

But I know my savior remains

CHORUS

And standing great and tall

He was the meekest of them all

That's Jesus Christ, my savior in the sky.

And like a light on crystal falls

He spreads his love on all he calls

That's Jesus Christ, the Highest of the High

Men may talk of love, they talk of (?)changing times(?)

They blindly seek the truth from other men.

But how can countless sinners really make us free

When they themselves fear the lion's den?

CHORUS... and standing great and tall

(Last verse - memory fogs up)... it starts with

Give your heart to Jesus....

I'm pretty sure Kristina Linder from "Selah" wrote this. Socks???? I defer to you, bro.

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P.S. Buck - I just emailed someone I know will know all the lyrics. If he emails me back, I will post them again!

Life, what is it but a dream? - Lewis Carroll

Don Graniero played guitar in "Glad Tidings". Kevin McCave played the sax, and sometimes Doug Coyle. Paul Cooper was Anna's husband and GT's drummer.

Many of them went to the Miami/Broward country area of Florida after graduating the 7th Corps - similar to what "Living Waters" did in NJ after we graduated the 6th.

Socks... d'ya remember who else was in Miami back then - it was around 1979/1980... Robi - you reading this? I know you'll remember.

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Life, what is it but a dream? - Lewis Carroll

QQ -

"Mythtery" - brilliant! Do you mind if I use it or do you want royalties?

Tilda - toooo funny. Good to see you again.

Mike - you need to remember the diverse group of people you are addressing. Not everyone here reveres VP the way you do, probably fewer than you can count on one hand.

When I first left TWI, I was a defender of VP, not because of his teachings, but because I thought he was a genuinely sincere man who only wanted the best for his "kids" (gag me now). In the past two years, I have come to learn that he stole most of what he "researched", made Bill Clinton look like Prince Charming, and had a very, very dark side that only a few were witness to.

I'm not going to tell you to stop your appreciation of VP - just take off the rose-colored glasses and see things the way they really were. You'll be surprised how clear things appear when you're not seeing them through your "waybrain".

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Rafe, I got a needle and a match - I could probably get that splinter out for ya pretty quick! I promise it won't hurt!

Happy New Year!!!

Oaks -

If you look at the link I put up in the other thread, they have some spoilers for the ROTK film, too.

LOTR Move Changes

When I read the film changes for TTT - they seemed to suggest that the elves that were leaving Rivendale were heading to Lothlorien for safety. I didn't get that from the movie at all. But they also had some scenes listed that weren't in the movie at all. I can't seem to get to the site right now, but I'll look later.

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Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!!!

Thanks RB - I fixed it... had that http: in there twice... I hate when that happens!

Hey - did you look at the site? Whaddya think?

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Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!!!

For all you Google addicts, you've just GOT to try the Google Viewer!

It displays pages found through the Google search as a continuous scrolling slide show. It has buttons to stop, start, fast forward or slow down the scroll.

It is SO cool!

Another search engine site I read about in a review is Vivisimo (vivisimo.com). It somehow goes out to multiple search engines, including Google, and then groups the results into clusters of information that are easy to browse. Try searching for "The Way International".

This is great stuff. The internet is getting "smaller" every day.

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Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!!!

[This message was edited by Hope R. on December 25, 2002 at 20:15.]

The second thing I did after we got booted was to put our name on the Cortright list.

I have found many old friends there that don't care to contribute to ex-Way forums but who want to find people and have other find them.

It's one of the oldest ex-Way sites around and has provided me with links to others that I probably never would have found without their list.

I've always wanted to thank them for the work and maintenance they do there - so now's a good time to do so! Thanks Cortrights!

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Zix - I received some Ex-Way spam as well, but it was more recent. It may have come from someone reading our profiles from the old GS or this site. I emailed the two I received and asked them to take me off their list. They did.

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!!!

I know what you're saying about Gimli... but the biggest and loudest laugh in the theater came from his two worded line... you know which one I mean. Don't tell me Jackson didn't do that on purpose!!!

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Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!!!

What did you all think?

Gandalf's fight with the Balrog was mind-blowing. The battle of Helm's Deep was amazing. Gollum was brilliant. The special effects were the best I've ever seen.

They took a lot of liberties with Tolkien this time around, but if I hadn't read the book recently, I probably wouldn't have known it.

Zix? Oaksie? Anyone else see it?

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Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!!!

I've been friends with a group of 7 women for a few years. We all met when our kids were in elementary school together and became friends. We celebrate our birthdays together by going out to lunch. It's a lovely bunch of warm, intelligent, opinionated women who I thoroughly enjoy being around.

When we first got friendly, we got into a conversation about religion. I was still in TWI at the time, but wanted out. I knew it was going to be really difficult to explain it to them.

When we finally got around to telling each other what church or what religion we practiced, I said, "I'm in a cult!" Then I briefly told them about TWI, the early years, why I got in, why I didn't like it now, and why I was staying. They didn't blink. They asked some questions, but for the most part, it didn't phase them.

I told them when we got out, and we all drank a toast at lunch that day.

Last week, we had our annual Christmas luncheon. We were talking about places we'd been and I said something like "In 1974, when I lived in San Antonio..." One of them asked me what I was doing in San Antonio... a few of them smiled and said "the cult!" We all had a good laugh...

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Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!!!

I just heard this Barry Manilow story today!

A friend of mine was in New York and was invited to go to the tree lighting in Rockefeller Center by a friend of hers who is in the TV industry.

She and her friend were ushered to the dressing room of "Saturday Night Live" to wait for the big event.

She said all these famous TV folks were there, and so was Barry Manilow. He had just performed and was headed back to his dressing room when she saw him.

She said to her friend "he looks awful". Her friend told her that the food in the SNL dressing room was sparse because good ol' Barry had it all moved to HIS dressing room, leaving slim pickin's behind for all the other guests.

Her friend also told her he doesn't "mingle" with the regular folk...

Sheesh - what a snob!

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Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!!!

IMO, all they have to do is tell people it wasn't their policy to mark and avoid, or have no debt, or pets, or (fill in the blank)... it was Craig's policy! That way they're off the hook! He's the scapegoat - and he's gone! I guess they can blame him for anything that comes up that innies have questions about.

I know it's been brought up that in order to be in TWI in the last half of the 90's, you had to be fairly adept at lying.

You couldn't tell the truth if you wanted to continue going to their fellowships because you feared being put on "spiritual probation" or M&A'd.

For example: If I didn't feel like going to fellowship, I would usually say I wasn't feeling well that night because, God forbid I tell the truth - that I just plain didn't want to go. That would be one more shovel of dirt on my TWI grave!

When we bought a new vehicle, our business put half down and financed the rest. When asked how we paid for the vehicle, our answer was "the business bought it". It wasn't an out-and-out lie, but we didn't give them all the information either. God forbid we tell them we took out a loan on it (which was none of their business to begin with). We'd be put on "probation" that day.

There was a couple here who bought a house. Their parents gave them a huge chunk of change for the downpayment. It was an offer they couldn't (and shouldn't) refuse! They told the BC that they were renting. When the BC discovered the truth - he immediately kicked them out and let the entire branch know about it. He said their lie was worse than the fact they went into debt. But we all knew they would have been kicked out for either offense.

So to teach that people it's okay to lie doesn't surprise me at all. IMO, it's a common practice.

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Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!!!

Linda, Socks...

Did you know that God is left handed? He has to be...

Because...........

Ready?...........

Jesus Christ is sitting on his right hand!!!!

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Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!!!

Sunesis -

Was it "Laugh-In" or "Shindig"?

Gawd, I hated bubble gum music. And it's funny... so much of what we wrote and performed in Way Prod was SO bubble-gummy! ("It's not by works, Maggie Muggins..."; "Just keep it simple, that's how I am..."; "My country tis of thee, sweet land of liberty, o say can you see what's goin' on?", etc.)

Yuck.

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Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!!!

The Atlantic Ocean as seen from Long Beach, Long Island, NY.

Three words...

Childhood

Family

Home

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Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!!!

[This message was edited by Hope R. on December 12, 2002 at 6:35.]

Besides Handel's "Messiah" and the Mormon Tabernacle Choir singing "Gloria in Excelsis Deo", I love the smooth jazz GRP Christmas CD collection. Dave Grusin, Nelson Rangell, David Benoit, Lee Ritenour, Diana Krall and the like.

I also have a very cool Christmas album by a group called "Wind Machine" and another by "Acoustic Alchemy".

But of the radio played Christmas songs, my very favorite is Springsteen singing "Santa Claus is Comin' to Town"!

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Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!!!

Socksy -

I'm a lefty, too! But I couldn't play the guitar left-handed any more than I could write right-handed. Guess I'm fairly ambidextrous... the only things I really use my left hand for are writing and using a fork.

My "crutch" is a thumb-pick. When I first met Richie D., he played with one. I always loved to finger pick, but only used my thumb, and index and middle fingers because the other two were braced on the bottom of the sound hole to hold my hand in place. I asked Richie to lend me one to see if I could use it. It was like magic! Once I got the thumb pick, I could position my hand without needing to brace it and get the use out of all my fingers for picking.

Only problem is that now if I don't have one with me, it's really awkward to play. I always carry one or two in my purse because I never know when I'm going to wander into Sam Ash! Now I need to remember to carry around a capo!

Last week I was there and they had an Eric Clapton Martin hanging on the wall. Ahhhh - what a NICE guitar! Had that one been there before I bought my Taylor, it would have been a hard choice to make.

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Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!!!

Have a wonderful day...

It's always nice to chat with you!

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"Don't let the past remind us of what we are not now" - Stephen Stills

I haven't read the whole thread - but has anyone mentioned Motown? I was watching TV and saw Stevie Wonder doing a Target commercial and remembered how much I love his music. "Songs in the Key of Life" came out my interim year and it kept me going for much of it!

He was so amazing - still is. I've always wanted to see him in concert but always seemed to miss him when he came around. I don't think he's toured in years.

And then there are the Four Tops, The Drifters, Smokey Robinson, Diana Ross and the Supremes, Aretha...

I know most of Motown's early material was written from the Brill Building in NYC by Gerry Goffin and Carole King as well as Leiber and Stoller.

The Brill Building is another fogotten topic here in the music history thread. (history of the Brill Building). It's amazing how much music was written there in the 60's. Some of the greatest songs I remember from my childhood came from there. I don't think there's anyplace like that in the world anymore.

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"Don't let the past remind us of what we are not now" - Stephen Stills

THE

... oh wait... that's already been done... my bad.

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"Don't let the past remind us of what we are not now" - Stephen Stills

P.S.

When Mozart was very ill, only days before death, he told Constanze that he believed he had been poisoned with a slow Italian poison and that Salieri had been the one who poisoned him.

In letters to his father, his sister and a friend, he said he believed that Salieri had been against him since he arrived in Vienna.

In 1829, in an interview with his younger son, he told the interviewer that his father was the originator of that accusation, though the did not believe it himself.

After he died, a collegue of the physicians who treated Mozart wrote letters describing Mozart's death in order to refute the rumors that Mozart had been poisoned by Salieri.

Though Shaffer's play and Forman's film contain an awful lot of speculation, it is all based on fact. So even though "Amadeus" is an exaggerated biography of Mozart - especially the personalities of the characters, there is a lot of factual information woven into the script.

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"Don't let the past remind us of what we are not now" - Stephen Stills

Keynote,

Thank you for your kind words.

I recently bought the complete set of Mozart Symphonies on 12 CD's. The two conductors are Sir Neville Marriner, who also conducted the orchestra for "Amadeus", and Josef Krips, who many people think is THEEEE most accurate Mozart conductor. I always have preferred The Academy of St. Martins in the Fields versions of Mozart than any other orchestra I have heard.

I have 4 bios on Mozart and I agree; while "Amadeus" is a wonderful movie (my favorite), Mozart was not as one dimensional as he was portrayed in the film. Tom Hulce was brilliant and, IMO, deserved the Academy Award as much as F. Murray Abraham did.

I recently bought the extended DVD edition. The on-screen commentary by Milos Forman and Peter Shaffer is wonderful. I already had the VHS version, but this was well worth buying twice!

I am slowly trying to collect his complete works. There are a few out there, but they are very expensive. I'm shooting for the complete piano concertos next time around.

Heck, I've still got a lot of symphonies to listen to. But I keep playing my favorites, the "Jupiter" (41), the "Linz" (36) and Symphony 39 in E flat major.... ahhhhhh.

And, believe it or not, I will never, ever get sick of "Eine Kleine Nachtmusik". When my kids were babies and couldn't sleep, I would play the andante for them and they'd be out in 5 minutes.

I can also listen to the overtures to "The Magic Flute" or "Le nozzi di Figaro" over and over again. There is no opera here in Tampa - and I'd be hard-pressed to find someone to go with me if there was one.

Like I said, Mozart is one of the first people I want to meet when and if I get to heaven! I want to give him a big hug and thank him for his music.

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"Don't let the past remind us of what we are not now" - Stephen Stills

Coramae Peters

Died: Sunday, November 10, 2002

Age: 76

VAN WERT - Coramae Peters, 76, Van Wert, died Sunday, Nov. 10, 2002, at 1:20 p.m. at St. Ritas Medical Center in Lima following an extended illness.

She was born June 21, 1926 in Fostoria.

She is survived by two daughters, Mrs. Wayne (Jill) Kight of Conley Springs, N.C. and Mrs. Robert (Mary Kay) Barnes of Van Wert; two sons, William Peters of Kingston, N.H., and David Peters of Houston, Texas, and seven grandchildren.

Mrs. Peters had worked at the Research Library of the Way International Biblical Research Center in New Knoxville. She was a registered nurse who had worked in the Intensive Care Unit of Van Wert County Hospital. She had attended Princeton University and was an Old Testament and Reformation scholar.

The funeral will be Thursday at 11 a.m. at Miller Funeral Home in St. Marys, with Rev. Frank Staley officiating. Burial will be in Woodland Cemetery in Van Wert.

Calling hours will be Wednesday from 6-8 p.m. at the funeral home.

Memorial contributions may be made to the Gerad Center.

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"Don't let the past remind us of what we are not now" - Stephen Stills

Naomi S. Wierwille

Died: Wednesday, November 27, 2002

Age: 89

NEW BREMEN - Naomi S. Wierwille, 89, 417 S. Washington St., died Wednesday, Nov. 27, 2002, at 8:06 p.m. in her residence.

Born Sept. 2, 1913, near Chickasaw, Ohio, she was the daughter of the late Jacob and Flora Kettler King.

In March of 1943 she married Robert Cummins. He preceded her in death.

On Aug. 24, 1963, she married Harry Wierwille. He died in December 1977.

Survivors include a son, Walter Cummings of Franklin; a daughter, Dee Weadock of St. Marys; two brothers, Walter King of Lima and Richard King of Celina; five grandsons and seven great-grandchildren.

She was preceded in death by a sister.

Mrs. Wierwille was a member of the St. Paul's United Church of Christ in New Bremen and also the Way International in New Knoxville, where she was a staff volunteer.

She attended a one-room school near her farm in Mercer County called the Liberty Special. She graduated from beauty school in Lima in 1941 as a cosmetologist. She owned and operated the former Naomi's Beauty Shop in New Bremen for a number of years.

She enjoyed all types of music and enjoyed playing the piano. She was a member of the former King Quartet along with the other members of her family.

Services will be Sunday at 2 p.m. in the Gilberg-Hartwig Funeral Home in New Bremen, with the Rev. Nik Maxson officiating. Burial will take place at the convenience of the family on the grounds of the Way International headquarters, New Knoxville.

Calling hours will be Saturday from 1 to 5 p.m. in the funeral home.

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"Don't let the past remind us of what we are not now" - Stephen Stills