JoyfulSoul

OK, let me try it again. This twist into the 'prophetic movement' has nothing to do with TWI.

This conversation has nothing to do with TWI. Skepticism and critical thinking are basic life skills we employ everywhere. Like most things, some are better at it than others.

Jesus was accused of everything. We have accounts of supernatural stories. There are a million more. One person saw the Messiah. Another saw a drunk and a charlatan. Nothing new under the sun. Interesting the above account of Mike has a lot of Bob Jones's admissions of failures.

I was there one night when a guy was raving that his back was healed through a Chris Reed word of knowledge. I've seen and heard extensively from all of them. I was at the Lakeland Revival when Todd Bentley was drawing International attention. My first visit to Morningstar was 1997.

You're asking if I'm stupid and gullible? Sometimes. Eban Alexander and Mary Neal are a couple doctors and researchers claiming to have had death experiences (more than mere NDEs). Sill, there are countless others including Colton Burpo, Don Piper and a favorite, Ian McCormick. There is a whole stream of Christians claiming to go to Heaven without dying- Justin Abraham; Mike Parsons; Nancy Cohen, etc, etc. Eye witness testimony is perhaps the most prominent evidence used in law courts. By design, the gospel was to be spread by word of mouth. Without 'skepticism' it is impossible to please God. That's not what it says.

Hello Sunshine, Now you want to challenge the specifics of lurking. What a wonderful conversation. Between May 19 and May 31 I didn't post. That can start again and that could grow. I'm trying not to get banned. Lil' secret. If I did I wouldn't care all that much. I want everybody to be happy.

It is fun, and we could do this. There are just a couple who want to warn me all the time. What? Everything has been good natured from my end. I don't know the special environment of every forum. This is the second thread where I made any comment

It's just soft, I don't want any of it. Oh, you're hurting my feelings. I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings. Whateva... All good. All love. Everybody get some Kleenex. It'll be OK.

Most involved, antagonistic "moderator" I've ever come across.

I already said my old "church" had an entire "service" with four or five of them talking about their out of body experiences. NDEs; visitations; caught up; seeing angels, on and on and on... OK with the utterance manifestations at the Way but I don't talk about everything with every Christian group I come across. Other than that, things are just a bit tender around here for me. I prefer to just lurk awhile. Makes me think of cats but...I'm really not here to offend

The mob can dish it out. Taking it? Not so much. I started reading the thread I started to find out why it felt right to be a 'bit' punchy. Lots of snarky and it didn't start with me. It's a balancing act. I'll withdraw from this thread just as I did the other. It was an interesting conversation. Now, I'm done.

Alright, I just glanced at that thread. Still, some seem kind of uptight- like, 'oooohhhh, don't cross that line' So, we toss it back and forth a little, so what? I can't really tell if the criticism is objective or if it's because I'm scoring points? Tough pill to swallow. All of us were brimming with faith at some point. Some continued on with timeless, scared truths. Others of us got wounded and became entrenched in a protective, adversarial belief system. I don't know who said it but the way to fix a wrong turn is to go back to the place it was made (well, I guess there could be a shortcut). That can be a tough pill. As the O' Jays sang, 'if you miss it, I feel sorry, sorry for you.' We weren't wrong when we believed.

It's called a conversation. Things come out bit by but if some self appointed enforcer doesn't blow the whole thing up when someone comes along with a little push back Unfortunately, Chockful evidently got tired of it. I've got .... and vinegar for miles.

See, now this is interesting. I was never told the backstory. I was really disappointed in '93 because my young nephew joined me at the Rock that year. Everyone knows what it's like trying to communicate your faith or the reasons for your faith. Well, the Rock was nothing like I told him it was. It just wasn't worth it. Now I know why.

Since you separated sexual abuse into a separate offense, tell us about the extreme prophetic phoniness. Also, tell us what if any of the supernatural you believe might be authentic. I have some familiarity with all of those groups and frequented two of them many times.