Need help with scriptures w/slain in the spirit...

[Bramble]

I find that a good healthy dosage of music by THE MONKS - played LOUD - is perfect for moving my spirit and limbs into a frenzied trance of ectasy.

It's pure Rock & Roll.

I highly recommend it.

Hey, I could head bang to those guys!

[Dot Matrix]

of interest:

Mesmer could actually be considered the father of slain in the Spirit except that he was plainly an occultist. Mesmer claimed to have discovered what he dubbed as animal magnetism. Having an interest in ESP and doing a doctoral study on astrology, He took a scientific approach on reaching spiritual contacts and trances through animal magnetism (universal fluid). “ What he discovered was an activation of strange powers in man that would help him gain insights into cosmic truths hidden from most of humanity by a veil of ignorance.”

He had written in his doctoral dissertation and repeated in a series of writings, the hoary fallacies could be shown to have essential truth within in them when interpreted scientifically-Astrology, alchemy, Oneiromancy (divination by dreams), divination. He then explained it through animal magnetism. Others who were also influenced by Mesmer were Samuel Hanneman founder of Homeopathy (New age medicine). Phineas B.Quimby who was also a mesmerist, he first attributed the power to Spirits for the use of this unknown energy but later said it was the mind. He healed Mary baker Eddy through this power who then became the founder of Christian Science a mind science Cult.

[wrdsandwrks]

of interest:

Mesmer could actually be considered the father of slain in the Spirit except that he was plainly an occultist. Mesmer claimed to have discovered what he dubbed as animal magnetism. Having an interest in ESP and doing a doctoral study on astrology, He took a scientific approach on reaching spiritual contacts and trances through animal magnetism (universal fluid). “ What he discovered was an activation of strange powers in man that would help him gain insights into cosmic truths hidden from most of humanity by a veil of ignorance.”

He had written in his doctoral dissertation and repeated in a series of writings, the hoary fallacies could be shown to have essential truth within in them when interpreted scientifically-Astrology, alchemy, Oneiromancy (divination by dreams), divination. He then explained it through animal magnetism. Others who were also influenced by Mesmer were Samuel Hanneman founder of Homeopathy (New age medicine). Phineas B.Quimby who was also a mesmerist, he first attributed the power to Spirits for the use of this unknown energy but later said it was the mind. He healed Mary baker Eddy through this power who then became the founder of Christian Science a mind science Cult.

Clearly there are occult powers and spirits that counterfeit what the true God does.

he first attributed the power to Spirits for the use of this unknown energy but later said it was the mind.

I was just reading Colossians and starting looking in depth at Colossians 2:18,19

This quote reminds me of "intruding into those things which he has not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind and not holding the Head, from which all the body by joints and bands having nourishment ministered, and knit together, increases with the increase of God."

People like Mesmer and other occultists "intrude" into the unseen world (the spirit realm) without "the Head", Jesus Christ and lead others astray, because they are "vainly puffed up" by their minds focused on the flesh instead of holding on to the Head and allowing Him to lead the way into revealing what is needed to supply the body with increase. Interesting how "psychic" power comes from the word "psuche", Greek for soul. James 3:15 This wisdom does not descend from above, but is earthly, sensual (pshuchike, soulish) and devilish.

IMO anything that professes spiritual power, or power of the mind, without acknowledging the source of the power to be Jesus Christ is "earthly, sensual (soulish) and devilish.

I believe that this is what the gift of discerning of spirits is for. You can just tell, when something is from the wrong spirit, something goes off inside.

[Dot Matrix]

Imteresting take

[Dot Matrix]

W&W

That does make sense - discernment will be the truth barometer

[Bramble]

Mesmer might have been the start of the modern movement, but shamantic and ecstatic trance practices in religion have been around for a long time, in many cultures, long before Mesmer.