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The Torah to Revelation: The Mystery: The Rapture


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Greetings.

How many of us have heard the Rapture is a “signless” event?

This thread is about:

1. The Mystery of God/The Hope of Glory/The Rapture: The Torah and the Book of Revelation—and the agreement of Moses & John, the prophets, apostles, and Christ.

2. God must follow His own Law.

To set the stage for this thread, let me pose a few Bible questions:

1.       What are the 2 incorrect assumptions extracted from 1 Thessalonians 5:1, 2, which yield this faulty conclusion: The Rapture is “signless” because Christ is coming as a “thief”? 

2.      Why did Peter quote Joel (2:28-32a) on Pentecost, and why did Peter stop at Joel 2:32a, and why does the blood red moon (again) “appear” at the Sixth Seal (Rev. 6:12)? 

3.      How is the Rapture connected to the mystery once hidden in “the feasts of the Lord” —Rosh Hashanah/The Feast of Trumpets—and in what letter did Christ reveal the first 5 holy days that apply to the glorious riches of the mystery: “Christ in you, the hope of glory”? 

4.      Christ said: “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets. I have not come to abolish, but to fulfill. For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not one dot or one mark will pass from the law until all be fulfilled.” (Matt. 5:17, 18) ... Where in the Book of Revelation is Christ’s prophecy fulfilled completely?

These questions are here as a catalyst for thought, and will be addressed in this thread.

The “Rapture” (Latin: Rapiemur), (1 Thess. 4:17) is sound doctrine; it is the revelation of the mystery—our future “salvation”/“hope of glory”—and will come to pass exactly as Christ revealed to Peter, Paul, and John: at the commencement of the Day of the Lord.

“Signless” has no scriptural justification.

If you already know the answers to the above questions, jump in.

We—as Christ’s Church—deserve to know the heavenly and earthly signs that mark the next unmistakable threshold in time: the Day of the Lord & the Rapture.

Do you know someone still uncertain about the sound doctrine of the mystery/the Hope of Glory, the Rapture? Ask him/her to stop by.

Peace.

revvel

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On 9/8/2025 at 3:36 PM, revvel said:

Greetings.

How many of us have heard the Rapture is a “signless” event?

This thread is about:

1. The Mystery of God/The Hope of Glory/The Rapture: The Torah and the Book of Revelation—and the agreement of Moses & John, the prophets, apostles, and Christ.

2. God must follow His own Law.

To set the stage for this thread, let me pose a few Bible questions:

1.       What are the 2 incorrect assumptions extracted from 1 Thessalonians 5:1, 2, which yield this faulty conclusion: The Rapture is “signless” because Christ is coming as a “thief”? 

2.      Why did Peter quote Joel (2:28-32a) on Pentecost, and why did Peter stop at Joel 2:32a, and why does the blood red moon (again) “appear” at the Sixth Seal (Rev. 6:12)? 

3.      How is the Rapture connected to the mystery once hidden in “the feasts of the Lord” —Rosh Hashanah/The Feast of Trumpets—and in what letter did Christ reveal the first 5 holy days that apply to the glorious riches of the mystery: “Christ in you, the hope of glory”? 

4.      Christ said: “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets. I have not come to abolish, but to fulfill. For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not one dot or one mark will pass from the law until all be fulfilled.” (Matt. 5:17, 18) ... Where in the Book of Revelation is Christ’s prophecy fulfilled completely?

These questions are here as a catalyst for thought, and will be addressed in this thread.

The “Rapture” (Latin: Rapiemur), (1 Thess. 4:17) is sound doctrine; it is the revelation of the mystery—our future “salvation”/“hope of glory”—and will come to pass exactly as Christ revealed to Peter, Paul, and John: at the commencement of the Day of the Lord.

“Signless” has no scriptural justification.

If you already know the answers to the above questions, jump in.

We—as Christ’s Church—deserve to know the heavenly and earthly signs that mark the next unmistakable threshold in time: the Day of the Lord & the Rapture.

Do you know someone still uncertain about the sound doctrine of the mystery/the Hope of Glory, the Rapture? Ask him/her to stop by.

Peace.

revvel

Hi Revvel,

After being exposed to Preterism and believing a good amount of it, I'm now uncertain about "the Rapture" a.k.a. "Gathering Together" as taught by TWI.    It's not the actual event but more of the "mind picture" we all know and "timeline" that I question now.   Actually I don't fully believe the preterist version either but it's got me wondering.   In any case, your research is worth taking a look and thank you! 

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Thank you again Oldiesman. I appreciate your thoughtful & kind comments.

Stay tuned...

To understand “Christ in you, the hope of glory” (once hidden in the Law and revealed in the Book of Revelation) is to understand our present and future (the Rapture/gathered before His heavenly Throne). And it is to understand the content and order of end-time events, which has overlapping numeric chronologies: the Law & Revelation, and this pulls together the entire Bible.

Only a divine Creator could have crafted such a magnificent plan. Before posting on this, there are 3 more questions to complete the "stage."

I’m looking to turn your thoughts to the mystery of God via questions.

1 Cor. 15:51-55 & Revelation 7:9-17

1. Paul and John both quoted Isaiah 25:8 in their respective revelations, why?

Romans 16:25-27

Paul said:

“Now to Him who has power to establish you according to my gospel and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret for long ages past, but now is revealed by the prophetic Scriptures according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all the Gentiles for the obedience of faith, to the only wise God, through Jesus Christ, to whom be glory forever. Amen.”

In Romans, Paul revealed “Christ in you, the hope of glory.” And he did so in 6 consecutive verses—quoting the same prophet and prophecy as Peter did on Pentecost.

2. Where did Paul reveal “Christ in you, the hope of glory” in Romans, and how does it relate to what Peter declared on Pentecost?

1 Cor. 2:7, 8

Paul said:

“We speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the ages for our glory. None of the rulers of this age knew it. For had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.”

3. What was the mystery that Christ revealed to Paul in 1 Corinthians, and how does it reveal “Christ in you, the hope of glory” once hidden in the Law?

We now have 7 Bible questions. If you don’t know the answers to the above questions, you deserve to know.

If you know the answers to the above questions, jump in.

Peace.

revvel

 

 

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