Mod Kirk

Posters cannot change their own Display Name. That is the handle you chose to use. But you can change your User Name. That is the name you log-in with.

When we move to the new forums, the name that will transfer as your handle is your User Name, NOT your Display Name, which is your handle here.

If your User Name, which you CAN change, is something other than your handle, please change it so it is the same as your handle.

Some people have used their own names as their User Name. If you don't want your name as your handle, then please change it so that your User Name is the same as your Display Name.

Second James, Next time feel free to start your own thread in the appropriate forum

Thanks.

Off topic posts have been moved from another thread.

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Originally posted by Cindy!:

1. If the person being talked about is not a GS poster and has done damage, folks should be free to post their first-person accounts on GS unless or until that person shows up at GS and is willing to "face the music"

2. If the person being talked about is a GS poster and has done something to someone through twi 1 or 2, it should be addressed privately and only brought public if they are going on to hurt someone else.

3. If the person being talked about is a GS poster and the issue is personal (i.e. marriage, divorce, kids, etc.) that should not be discussed on GS unless the person being talked about has given their public consent.

I'll start with where we agree.

3. Absolutely. No exceptions.

2. Tough call. It might be time to go over personal safety precautions like being careful not to post too much private information that others can use against you. It's nice to think that we are among friends but too often we are not. When you say 'hurt someone else' if the 'hurt' is something real, like threats of injury, they should be banned. What are you thinking of as far as hurting someone else?

1. Maybe the person never reads grease spot so how do they know? When they sometimes do read grease spot and read about themselves they send an email and ask us to delete all the references to them which is very time consuming to find the posts. I would rather they not be named to begin with.

I would also like to add that even though there has been some controversy over using the moderator alert, it is very helpful to the moderators when a potential problem is pointed out. No one has time to read all the threads.

Steve, I was going to answer your question but Krysilis already did.

Raf, Thank you for expanding on some very valid reasons for keeping names to a minimum. Someone once suggested that it is wise not to post anything that you do not want read back to you in court. I don't think any of us wants the hassle of defending ourselves in court.

Linda, Good points.

Cindy! Those are good points, and your not making trouble. That's part of why we want it discussed.

It's hard to separate out issues of privacy from telling the "other side of the story," which is where the moderators are getting a headache. If someone else's "other side of the story" includes things that happened with/to you, and they have an axe to grind, should it be aired out here? That's what we're trying to figure out.

Also Greasespot has a long tradition of "protecting the victim." If so, then where does the "victim's" privacy fit in. Like maybe they don't want their names announced if something happened years ago with them and a TWI leader.

That's why we're putting it out here. Where is the line?

Please do not identify victims by name unless they have identified themselves.

What names are acceptable to be printed in full:

All Trustees/Directors, past & present

"Disguised" names, meaning using initials or asterisks:

Current -

cabinet members

corps coordinators

spokesmen

region coordinators

leaders of offshoots

For Anyone Else: Use title or position (no names, even disguised).

I have a real problem seeing some joe-blow low level branch leader or WOW family coordinator lambasted or humiliated by name in a thread when this person may be long out of TWI. Substituting an asterisk for a vowel does little to hide who we are talking about.

Frankly, there are people out there who could tell horror stories about most any of us.

The purpose of GreaseSpot first and foremost is a place to tell YOUR story. In doing so, do we need to dig up everyone else's garbage?

This is up for discussion. Where do you think the boundaries should be?

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Who are the moderators, if you don't mind if I ask (so we'll know not to blow them off when they're moderating)?

All of the current moderators have opted to be anonymous, that is, we use one handle when posting, and a different one when moderating. This allows us to separate our duties as moderators from our posting.

Generally, a moderator has "mod" prefixed to the rest of the handle, like this one: MODdishwasher. Moderators have the ability to edit other peoples' posts.

As pawtucket stated, we are volunteers. Each of us is a long-standing GS posters who has donated part of his/her time to helping keep GS up and running.

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Well, Vickles, if you are ever the subject of one of these threads, I'll know not to edit it then.

Jim,

Yes at GS personal issues can be discussed anonymously. As soon as names are known, the responsibility shifts. Do you use your last name here? I do not know. If you do, and if your wife used her name too and came here to post "potentially embarrassing, sexual issues of a personal nature" would you want that thread on the Open Forum?

If BOTH of the people want to discuss their sex lives here at GS, fine. But I want to hear from BOTH. Then they can say whatever they want and whoever wants to at GS can give their advice and opinions. But if ONE of them wants any privacy, the moderators will try to make sure they have it. Their names are known. Their situation is known. If they BOTH want it discussed openly here, use the Contact Us feature, or a PM to let me know.

I wasn't trying to hide anything. I pulled the thread, and explained why in a new thread. It takes time to go through a thread and weed out offending posts, let alone sentences or words. I was using a meat cleaver and not a scalpel because I didn't have time to go through each post and I wanted to get the thread back up so yall could keep it going, without drawing too much attention to anybodies personal situation.

It's always a judgement call and in my judgement, too many personal details were being dragged in.

We can agree to disagree.

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Originally posted by GeorgeStGeorge:

I would tend to agree. Most of the personal material had already been deleted from the individual posts, anyway. I think a lot of valuable learning may have been lost. :(-->

George

Valuable learning? The only thing missing from the thread now is the gossip.

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Originally posted by Radar O'Reilly:

Moddishwasher,

For that line of reasoning to hold up you will need to go thru the forums and deleted endless threads.....

And we do.

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If you want to delete posts and moderate fine, that is your responsibility....my point here is that your reasoning is faulty in this case.

Radar

I disagree. This thread violated the privacy of another poster.

Several posts have been deleted that refer to a specific situation involving GS posters.

If your post contained other information that did not pertain to this situation, or if an innocent post was accidently axed, we apologize.

Please do not use the GS public forums to air your private matters.

For those who are not directly involved, pease do not use the GS public forums to discuss the private lives of GSers.

Thanks you

The thread has temporaily been moved to an undisclosed location. We are cleaning up some posts that contain personal information. The thread will return shortly

I have removed all personal references. LDO USN and coolchef1248, please take this to Private Message.

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1. If a Corps person should lurk at Greasespot, can their location or identity be determined by anyone who might report them to TWI?

No.

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2. If a Corp pesron should POST at Greasespot, can their location etc, be reported, etc. to the thugs at Wayworld?

No.

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Anybody with a reasonable gift for explaining this stuff to our Corps web-novice guests, please have a go.

Refer to Steve!'s post.

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Originally posted by signals:

I dunno about nervie. I hope they didn't think he was annoying me or anything. He put his head into the mouth of the hungry lion...the bitter lion! The green goblin avatar guy summoned him and that was it!

Huh?

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This letter dated May 9, 2005 was first sent to the followers of Christian Research and Fellowship out of Destin, Florida. It was sent to GreaseSpot Cafe with a request to have it posted here for those who knew John Hendricks.

Dearly Loved Sons of God,

God bless your hearts in the precious name of our returning lord and brother Jesus Christ.

I need to share something with you that may be difficult for your hearts to receive, but I am believing that God will comfort you with the same great love and encouragement that He is comforting us with.

My Father, Reverend John Davis Hendricks, fell asleep in Christ on the morning of Thursday, May 5th. It was due to a health condition and took place quickly with minimal suffering. He was at home and with family. God has given our family more strength in our hearts during this time than we would have imagined, and I am confident that He will do the same for all those who loved Reverend Hendricks so dearly.

The night before he fell asleep he was full of joy reading letters from believers who were sharing how blessed their lives are because of his loving service. In the past few months he had been really teaching the mystery, the great sacred secret, like it hasn't been taught since the first century. He recently recorded the teaching "The Pinnacles Of The Mystery" and on the night of May 4th gave instructions for it to be sent out to everyone. We are also sending with it a poem that a loving believer recently sent him that really touched his heart and we thought would bless you.

I am deeply thankful to be able to say that he finished his course with joy as a faithful man of God. That he devoted his whole life to the service of God, remaining faithful and keeping his heart and motives pure, is the highest honor to him and will be rewarded to the full. The following scriptures apply well to his life.

I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith:

Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord,

the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only,

but to all them also that love his appearing.

II Timothy 4: 7 and 8

I am humbled and honored to have had the privilege of serving with such an extraordinary man so strong in the love of God and strong in his walk with God who touched and healed so very many lives. I am looking forward to seeing the fruits of his labors flourish in our lives as we continue standing together on God's Word, walking in the love and unity looking towards the hope of Christ's return.

The phase of our lives in this world is very short compared to our true lives that will begin when Christ returns and we are gathered together to live with our whole family in perfect love and full unity for all eternity. Looking forward to that day when we will be together with him again.

With love and the full assurance of hope.

Now our Lord Jesus Christ Himself, and God, even our Father, which hath loved us,

and hath given us everlasting consolation and good hope through grace,

Comfort your hearts, and stablish you in every good word and work.

II Thessalonians 2:16 and 17

When to use the moderator alert (that little yellow triangle with a !):

When privacy is being violated. When something is being revealed about you or another person that has not been revealed on these forums by the person being talked about, i.e. any identifying information, including names, locations, workplaces, and any other dirt or old baggage.

When threats are being made. Definition of threat: "1. a declaration of an intention to inflict punishment, injury, etc., as in retaliation for, or conditionally upon, some action or course. 2. an indication or warning of probable trouble."

When you or someone else is being harassed. Definition: "to disturb persistently; torment; pester; persecute." At GreaseSpot, the operative word is persistently.

When you see vulgar and abusive language, unless you enjoy that type of thing. In which case, join into any of our colorful discussion in the Tacks forum. If it offends you, kindly alert GreaseSpot Cafe and we will assist you by altering your profile so you can no longer access that forum. What you don't read won't disturb you. However, the personal attacks there are not acceptable in any other forum.

There are filters here for pornography and profanity, but if something slips through, let us know.

When not to alert the moderator:

When the person you hate the most at GreaseSpot posts on 'your' thread.

When someone posts an opinion that is different from your own.

When you don't like the thread you are reading, but you don't have the self-control to turn off your computer.

More thoughts:

The moderators are a cyber police force. We have night sticks, riot gear, and ammunition. Our job is to control the riff raff.

If you call on us, help us out by giving as much information in the alert as you can. Maybe you've been following the thread, but the moderator has not. Moderators are GS posters, and only have so much time, just like you. So when you send one of us to a six page thread, and the offense is on page 5 1/2, give us a summary. What is the nature of the dispute? Did an infraction really take place? By and to whom? Maybe by writing it out yourself you can judge whether this is something that really needs attention.

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Originally posted by TheSongRemainsTheSame:

hey

where do peopslters who make no sence like me go?

We've been wondering the same thing. Any ideas?

ToadFriend:

PM please

def59, I sent you a PM as a test and didn't have any trouble getting through. Let me know if you get it. Your PM feature should be functioning.

A reminder to all:

The In Memoriam forum is a place to say goodbye. That is all. Any discussions about the deceased belong in the Open Forum. We would rather have many threads regarding a death rather than start a discussion in the memorial section. The same goes for the Prayer Forum. Both of these are quiet forums. They aren't designed for debates and discussions, but for quiet and reflection.

Thank you.