BikerBabe

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Thank you for the insight.

I know a lot of us don't stop to consider that people ride bikes for a multitude of reasons.

Glad to hear you are "on the mend" and able to enjoy your newly found mobility.

Waysider

Since I live in a tiny studio apartment, it's hard to find spots to take pictures, especially of something the size of my bike. LOL. The hallway seemed the best and has the best light, which my little camera phone needs. Here's my *baby* that means so much to me at the end of my post.

One more thing, I couldn't afford a bike like this myself obviously. In the past, some years ago when my soon to be ex hubby had a better paying job we both had bikes we put a lot into, mine was 1000 plus, as I added more to it. Some jerk was so kind as to cut thru a very expensive lock I had on it one night and relieve me of it. I cried for 3 years missing that bike and knowing I'd never get out of the chair without it.

I ran into an old friend on this forum, who wishes to remain nameless. This bike I have now was a gift from that person last year to me. It's 100 times better than the one that was stolen, it's a bike I never in my wildest dreams thought I'd have the honor and privledge of owning and riding and I'll never be able to thank that person enough for giving me my life back ... in more ways than one.

This bike lives inside my little home with me. I purchased the very best lock on the market, one actually made for motorcycles that can also be used for bicycles. You can see the lock hooked on the bottom of the frame where the drink holder would normally be. It's a handcuff lock made by MasterLock and has 9 links between the cuffs, not cable or chain like all the other locks have, that have proven to be too easy to break apart by the pro bike thieves, which we have a lot of in Phoenix. When I lock it to something, I walk away knowing it will be waiting for me when I return.

Now, here it is. Wish the pic was better quality, but it's all I had to get a pic with. For those who know mountain bikes, it's a Santa Cruz, Juliana SL.

I can't afford a car and I can't walk more than a couple blocks without causing myself more Crohn's and Fibro pain problems. I CAN ride a mountain bike ... used to do 20 miles a day before I got sick this last time ... I'm back up to 5 now and working my way back to 20 or more again.

My hubby rides a road bike to and from work daily. Job he's working now is only about 6 miles round trip, so it's not too bad on him. He can get there in 20 to 25 minutes. For those thinking 'take a bus' .. the buses don't run when you work the 3rd shift hours he does, it's walk or ride the bike.

Now, for those of you who can afford cars and have taken a hatred to those of us who ride, either for transportation or for pleasure. He and I both ride for both, usually spending his days off riding around town having a good time and trying not to get hit. He's been hit 3 times in the past 8 years. I was only behind him one of those times and got the honor of watching it happen. Thank God he's never been seriously hurt and only had some bruises where car bumpers connected with his leg. Was he riding crazy? No. We were entering a crosswalk, riding on sidewalks, not in the streets, when it turned to 'walk' for us. An old man was sitting in his truck at the corner, looked at us and saw us coming. He was waiting to make a right turn on the red. When he saw a break in traffic, he took his foot off his brake and started to move forward ... still looking to his left, not straight ahead or to the right where he knew we were. My hubby was right in the center of his truck and he was knocked off his bike. While he did maintain his balance and hopped backwards halfway into the middle of the 1st lane of the main road, with a 45 mph speed limit on it, by that time cars were coming IN that lane. Thank God the car that would have hit him was paying attention and was able to move into the center lane and avoid possibly hitting or killing him.

I was just starting out from the corner and saw it all happen in slow motion it seemed. I remember hitting my brakes and screaming STOP STOP STOP at the top of my lungs to that old man in the truck. Then I looked to my right to see that car swerve to miss squishing my hubby as he regained his balance and got back out of the road.

What shocked me the most was that old man never moved. He didn't get out of his truck, he didn't roll down his window to say he was sorry, he just sat there waiting for my hubby to reach down under his truck and remove his bicycle so he could continue on his way. He did just that too as soon as the bike was out of the way. Had I not screamed for him to stop, I feel we would have lost the bike. Due to him stopping where he did, his tires missed the bike by 2 inches.

We also continued on our way as we were heading to pay the cable bill and it was due that day, so had to get done. We weren't all that far away by then, only 1 or 2 more miles to go of the 5 miles total distance it was from where we lived. The next 2 days hubby had off work, which was good or he would have had to call off. His leg by then was very sore and he was limping pretty bad on it. He was able to go back to work the 3rd day, but it took him a couple weeks before he stopped limping totally. Those truck bumpers can really put a bruising to ya when they push your leg into a bike frame at about 3 to 5 mph.

I realize there are some crazy riders out there on bicycles. Don't judge the majority by the few. Why do some of us ride side by side on a road that doesn't offer us a sidewalk to ride on? (That is a legal way to ride btw in most states.) That way we KNOW we will be seen by cars and won't be hit. It's not to upset you or slow you down, it's for our own safety and protection.

Twisting roads compared to a straight (or around a big circle) bike path in a park? On my top of the line, best selling woman's mountain bike in the country, that I have tricked out for the way I ride, which do you think would be more fun to ride on? I don't want to ride with people on a bike from WalMart that is made for the park paths, I'm a bicycle commuter and ride casually to new places to see new things. That means I ride on the roads and get there the same way you do in your car. I also want to ride in places my bike was made for, it's got full suspension, the twisting and turning roads are a lot of fun to ride on. They are a nice change from riding in city traffic where the majority of my riding is done since I live in the middle of uptown Phoenix. We're the 5th largest city in the country now, so that should give you an idea of the traffic I have to keep an eye on every second I'm out riding to get somewhere.

I have a speedometer, a rear view mirror that attaches to my glasses, a side mirror on the right handlebar end, flashing lights front, rear, and on my wheels. I'm saving up for the good light I want so I'm ready when I'm up to night riding again and it's as bright as the headlights on any car, dim and bright settings both. My tires are Michelin's, just like the ones on your car and I'm sure I paid almost as much for my tires and rims as you did for two of your car tires and at least one rim, if not both. While my brakes will stop me on a dime, I intend to move up to disc brakes in the future when I can afford a set. They aren't cheap, but I want the best I can have to keep me safe when I'm riding and I've lost count how many times I've had to stop quickly when cars pulling out of store driveways don't look and almost hit me. Don't get me wrong, I *always* slow down when I see a car approaching a driveway I'm heading towards and I won't continue on until I have made eye contact with them so I know they see me. As I pass in front of their car, I wave and say thank you.

Someone mentioned bike paths put on roads. Look closely at them the next time you are driving near one, slow down or stop and walk and look at it awhile. They are the worst maintained part of the road and some are not fit to ride on they are so rough. They also end a half block before you get to the intersections, so then what are we supposed to do? The intersections is where we need them most! That is the narrowest part of the road in some areas of town here where I live. I avoid the paths and use the sidewalk if there is one, or I take another road where there is a sidewalk to ride on.

Most bicycle riders I've talked to prefer to take back roads with the least amount of traffic as often as possible. There are times when that is just not possible though, so when a main road is all there is and there is no sidewalk, we have to ride in traffic. Trust me, it's less fun for us being out there trying to get where we need to be and a heck of a lot more dangerous, than it is for all of you in a car that may have to slow down for a minute or two until you can safely get around us. We appreciate you doing that when you can't get by us safely in the same lane. It's the drivers who curse us, try to or do push us off the road, throw objects out the window at us (which turn into missiles you pray don't hit you), spit at us, or stay behind us going slow and honking their horns when they have plenty of room in other lanes to get by us, that upset us and scare us.

If it wasn't for my bike, I'd never get to go anywhere. I've been stuck inside an apartment for the majority of the past 8 to 9 years I was so sick. I'm tired of the same 4 walls day in and day out. Now that I'm under a doctor's care and out of pain, my bike is my freedom, it's my way to go a few miles away from home to buy something I need at a store that isn't in my neighborhood. It is what makes my leg muscles get strong again and helps me get all of my body back in shape after sitting and doing nothing for so many years.

7 months ago I was using a wheelchair outside and a cane inside or for short distances outside (like to a neighbors). I couldn't get up and down the stairs, my legs weren't strong enough, I had to use the elevator. Today I use the stairs, I walk the 2 blocks to the grocery store if it's too dark to ride the bike there or I'm buying more than I can carry back on my handlebars. I've gone from 76 pounds to 100 pounds. I don't feel I will die at any time anymore, quite the opposite, I'm ready to rejoin the world and have a lot of lost years to catch up on.

I'm not upset at any posters who said things bad about bike riders. Most people once they learn to drive never get on a bike again the rest of their lives and they forget what it's like. I thought I'd show what my side of the issues are since my bike is my only transportation. I hope it helps bring a little bit more understanding between riders and drivers, so we can share the roads in peace and no more get hurt or killed.

Before sealing any deals please make sure you check out the company/person you will be purchasing the dog from. Look up the company and/or person's name online and see what others may have posted about the business dealings they had in order to get their dog. Make sure you are not dealing with a puppy mill so you don't end up with a dog with a lot of health problems.

Keep in mind the picture you see online of a puppy may not be the exact puppy you will receive. Sadly some bad companies out there use the same pictures over and over, then send a puppy that is similar to the one in the picture, but not the same exact one. If you are wanting a full blood dog with papers, make sure they are able to register the puppy you are buying with the organization you prefer, there are quite a few out there these days and not all are recognized by good breeders and dog showers as having papers worth anything. Ask which one the puppy will have papers from and don't buy if it's not one you want.

I've never bought a dog this way. I just know these are things I have read in posts on ripoffreport.com from people who got ripped off when buying a dog from outside of the city/area they live in. That would be the first website I would recommend doing a search for names on in fact. Reading thru reports there can also help you know what to look for when buying so you don't end up with a bad deal and/or puppy as they did.

I hope you find the perfect pup and that you post a pic for all of us to see once you get him or her home with you. :)

I passed the URL on to my soon to be ex hubby. (We are still close and friendly.) He said to send a 'thank you' out from him. He thinks it will be useful for his computers too. :)

Just keep doing what you have been doing so far and this place will be around for a long, long time Paw. It's the best place online for ex TWI and present TWI people to come and read, learn from others, understand what didn't make sense in the past finally, to post their story for all to read and learn from when they are ready to put it down into words and know they have finally found the place where there are others who really DO understand their past, as they went thru it all too. The love found here is refreshing after the unloving TWI years we all had. :)

There aren't many people who could keep a forum such as this, with all it's demands and needs, running so smooth as you and your mods do. I'm honored to have met all of you in here.

I chat much more than I post. We have a great group of regulars in chat and it's always so wonderful when newbies to the forum stop in to meet us and decide to join our little chat family. Of course it's always a thrill to say hey to you when you have time to stop in for awhile and visit. :)

Belle, I'm sure I don't need to tell you this, but I echo every word you said. It had the look and feel of a murder/suicide in the beginning, the cops did everything they could given the information they had.

David, are you aware that many of the VA Tech students are licensed to conceal carry? The school has a rule they are not allowed to carry on campus, so instead of one of them taking this perp out shortly after he started the massacre, they were prevented from doing so by school rules .. their guns were at home, doing them no good.

For those who haven't heard yet: A former student of the college who graduated last year was in an English class with the perp. He is now employed at AOL and has put up two of the stories the perp wrote for class assignments and he retained copies of. You can read them here: http://newsbloggers.aol.com/2007/04/17/cho-seung-huis-plays/ Even being a year old, they are graphic and violence oriented. I felt it was worth the time to go and read his blog he put them on. They show the perp was having mental problems for some time, this wasn't a sudden change in him.

This is not the time to blame anyone ... *except* the person who was on the trigger end of the gun. HE is the person that, without showing one ounce of emotion, shot and murdered all those students and teachers. It is the time for prayer for the families and friends of those murdered and for those injured and terrified like they never will be again in their lives.

May those who were murdered rest in peace.

Thank you for posting. I will give John a call and give him my condolences. I was witnessed to by John and met Tom shortly after .. when I was a snot nosed kid back in 1974.

I can't do this now, I'm crying too hard.

Sounds about right. I do think she was a bit to trusting; but who would've really suspected this crap was going on at the top level, except for the ones who'd been around for a long, long time. Guess that would be the ones like J. Lynn mentions in his letters and tapes from back in '87-'88. It is shocking to find out, no doubt about that..

I was a nobody in TWI the whole 20 years I was around it. Never went above the Int. class, nor did I have a desire to. I was well aware of the sex stuff going on as early as 1979. (I was still a teenager then.) I tried to tell others, so of course I was called a liar, a troublemaker, the normal things they said when someone had information they weren't supposed to.

I learned to just keep my mouth shut, not believe anything they taught and stay just below the line of getting myself kicked out, in order to keep an eye on other family members who were totally brainwashed and believed what HQ said lock, stock and barrel. When the day was coming in 1994 that everyone in TWI would be required to walk the straight and narrow line and take every class put out or be marked and avoided, I knew it was time for me to fade away before it was noticed. That was the only thing that allowed me to keep in touch with relatives still in TWI to this day. Had I been M and A'd, I know they would have obeyed and never spoken to me again. (I'm very grateful for the heads up I was given that the change was about to happen so I didn't lose touch with my family, as so many, many others did.)

I just went back and read all the previous posts this man has put on this forum since he joined in 2003. There aren't very many and all can be found linked to his profile.

The one that sticks out is the one he did in My Story: http://www.greasespotcafe.com/ipb/index.ph...amp;#entry34610 At the end of his first post he talks about a girl who came to visit him while he was still at the Gainesville State School, a youth facility for juveniles who have broken the law and the judge decides to send them there instead of jail or juvenile hall (usually for their 1st offense I think).

He said "A few weeks later, I recieved a visitor who shared some bible with me, I don't even remember what was taught, but her daughter was about nine years old and it was the first time I had ever hear anyone speak in tongues. That caught my attention and sparked my interest even further."

Instead of commenting about what she taught him, he says he doesn't remember and after the next comma he first mentioned her 9 year old daughter, then he talked about hearing tongues for the first time. He had not once to that point in ANY of his posts talked about any children, of any age group, but a post written about a 9 year old girl caugh my attention quickly. Did it matter what her age was to anyone but him? What did she have to do with what her mother taught him, that he claims he doesn't remember. He also wasn't clear, which caught his attention .. the 9 yr old girl, the speaking in tongues, or both?

Following the time periods of his life as things happened, by putting together all this posts, it was a few years after this period of confinement as a youth, that he comitted the molestation of the 9 year old girl that he was confined in jail, just under a year for. While he did speak of doing jail time in those past posts in 2003, he did not say what he got put in jail for. He didn't reveal that until the other day in 2007, as we all know.

Beyond what all Abi, Kathy and others have already pointed out so well, I wanted to just put in my 2 cents on related issues that I didn't see mentioned. If they were, I missed them and it wasn't intentional.

He didn't tell us why he stopped. Was it voluntary or did someone approach the scene and he was forced to stop what he was doing and/or she ran to safety? He refers to this incident as his 'original crime'. Any perps I've spoken to in the past use that term when they have comitted the same crime more than once and it's used as a reference to which one he's talking about. It was used more than once in his post, so I can't accept it as a moment of bad wording. After you live anywhere for some length of time, including jail, you pick up words and terms the locals/neighbors/roommates use and they become part of your normal way of speaking to others. I'd be curious to see his full arrest record to see if that was indeed the only time he was in jail for this offense.

My personal feelings after talking the majority of my life to friends that are/were cops, social workers, prison guards or guards in a mental hospital for prisoners who comitted sexual crimes that can't be put in a normal prison, are this. Everyone has their personal sexual perferences. A man I might be attracted to, a girlfriend could have absolutely no interest in romantically. The same goes for men attracted to women. Some people like redheads, some blonds, some brunettes and may prefer the hair to be short, long, half way in between or bald. Some of us like tall mates, some like short ones. Some are attracted to people their own age, others tend to prefer someone a few years older or younger .... some prefer them a lot younger.

They send pedophiles to special doctors to try to help them. They give them drugs. They give them jail time. When all is said and done, they still are attracted to the type of person who turns them on sexually, just like all of us are. They normally don't feel remorse (although they may say so to get less jail time), they don't see anything wrong with what they are doing! It's as natural to them as our attraction to men and women close to our own ages are to us. The few have strong enough will power to ignore the life long urges when they see a child that's their 'type', but as we know from reading the news, more and more pedophiles are being caught and put in prison these days.

True story. A man I know that works in the mental hospital for the criminally insane told me last year in chat one night about a new prisoner they just got in who was arrested for raping a cow. Yes, a cow. When asked why his answer was very simple. He said 'I'm a pedophile and I looked all night and couldn't find a little boy to rape and I needed a release, so when passing a farm as I was out crusing/looking, I used the cow to relieve myself instead.' He also said that he couldn't wait to be released so he could find himself a nice boy, the cow just wasn't the same. He saw nothing wrong at all with what he had done, nor with his plans for once released. (He won't ever be released the guard told me, that was wishful talking on the perv's behalf.)

I must agree this isn't a help forum for child molesters. This is a forum for victims of TWI. A forum for those who have also done his crime is the place he needs to go and discuss it. This isn't the place.

........ Stock pile perscription meds.

Bwhahahahaha. Oh yes, I can see it now. I go to my pain doctor and our visit goes something like this:

"Doc, the cult I'm in wants us to be totally prepared and requires me to stock up on everything I need on a daily basis. Now I know I'm on a schedule 2 drug, which the law says no refills are allowed on and you may only write for one month's use at a time, but I'm sure the DEA and my insurance company will understand why the cult are insisting you give me more than my normal amount. It makes perfect sense, since you can't give refills on triplicate scripts, they will know you have no other choice *but* to give me the whole stock supply on one prescription slip.

I normally get 270 pills a month to take for my pain, so to help I did the math for you before coming in to this appointment. 12 months worth will only be 3240 pills. See how simple and how intelligent it is for me to have a stock pile of these very addictive and dangerous drugs (that I will have to do my best to securely hide from thieves). Now when the clock hits midnight soon on Jan. 1st, 2000, I will be more than covered while our government gets everything fixed and working correctly again that breaks."

LOL, I have an appointment next week to get my montly refill script. I think I'll try to remember to bring this up and ask what would have been said back to me, in real life, had I still been in TWI and forced to ask for such an outrageous amount of painkillers at one time. The nurse practitioner that I normally see is great and has a good sense of humor. If I get her again this month, I'll run it past her.

Excie, there was a program you could download free off the net for many years, but the coder's life has gotten busy and he's not offering it any longer. I kept a copy of the install file if you would like me to send it to you. All you do then after it's installed is click on it's icon and it looks thru your computer and gives you a screen telling you everything you have in your computer.

Kinda comes in handy at times like this when you aren't quite sure what's inside your computer and someone needs to know to help you get it working again. It lets you copy and paste the info into an email to the person helping you too, so you don't have to try to type it all out yourself. Just drop me a line or catch me in chat and I will be more than happy to email you a copy. It's a small program, so is easily sent by email.

Anyone else interested in a copy is also more than welcome to ask me for one. For the geeks here, it's called AIDA32. I made sure I grabbed the last version he put out last year when he announced he was unable to continue due to lack of time. (Funny how that happens as we get older and get jobs, wives, hubbies and kids. LOL.)

Too cool! You SHOULD toot your horn for this and feel wonderful doing it. You just put a big smile on my face reading your post. I could feel how much it meant to you as I read it and that is a feeling that I think everyone enjoys 'getting a piece of the action' .. if you post and allow them too.

Congrats. I'm a knife person myself and one day may get back into some throwing. Lost my sweet little perfectly balanced 6 inch blade I carried with me everywhere in a move years ago and never had time or money to replace it since.

I was given a bayonet as a birthday present 5 years ago though. It's never been sharpened, I just enjoy it because it's unique. Not every girl has one sitting on her desk. LOL.

Did I ever mention I'm scared of heights? LOL. I found my stomach again I think after the 10th time I watched that video. :) Way cool, but there's no way I'm ever going to jump out of a perfectly operating airplane.

I showed it to a friend who remembered a similar 'take your breath away' video. He found it for me and if you wanna go check out jetman, you can see him here: http://www.metacafe.com/watch/468993/jetman/

I like the Skydiving one the best. I sent the URL to a net friend and he passed it on to his wife who was over at her computer. A half hour later he IM'd me again laughing .. he said she was still watching it, she liked it so much. Hah, she's newer to the internet, so I figured she'd get a kick out of it and asked him to give it to her. I was thrilled to hear it made her night.

Thanks for posting it Tech. I went to the site today and made up my own account. I don't have a vid cam, but I do have a camera cell phone now. If I ever see anything interesting as I peddle my butt around town I'll have to post it there and share with others.

As most of you know, I ignored the chronic gut pain while in TWI as best I could. By the time I left the damage had been done and then trying to quit smoking kicked in a very bad Crohn's Disease flare. I knew nothing of the disease, didn't know if you are prone to it and smoke, it's not always good to quit. *sigh* Anyway, they cut out a foot of my small bowel and I still hurt. Took many docs and 5 more years before I found an OB/GYN who knew Crohn's could also affect female parts. She put me in surgery and fixed a bad rectocele and removed my uterus.

So I can prove believing does equal receiving. I believed when I woke up from surgery I'd humor the nurses for awhile with a nicotine patch, then after 6 hours I figured that was enough and informed them I was heading outside to smoke and I had removed the patch and would tape it back on when I came back inside as I always have when I'm stuck in the hospital. Nurse said no way, I'd just had 2 major surgeries at the same time a few hours ago. I said watch me. Husband put me in my wheelchair, I grabbed the morphine drip thingy and down the hall we went.

I believed and I got my smoke, with a morphine drip and push button for instant release on the side. :)

Hahaha, as you can see, after I pushed the button my eyes kinda went from open to slits ....

but DAMN, that smoke tasted good!

....and thus ends the humorous section of this thread for the evening.

I want to clarify something you said Dot. I have a feeling many reading what you said won't understand, even though you and I know perfectly well, but we are living in the middle of the invasion. Those who haven't had it spread to their part of the country yet may not realize how some things we say take on quite a different meaning when it is applied to the illegals.

You talked about how the illegals are now into the construction trades and have pushed the Americans out. This is very true, but 'push' isn't a physical push in this invasion. What happens is the illegals come into a new area of our country one family at a time. Then they bring the rest of their family and friends still in Mexico to come live there near them, or in a lot, if not most cases, with them. They have no qualms living 20 or more in a one bedroom apartment. Before you know it they have taken over whole sections of your town. Those nice little mom and pop stores you love so much? Say bye bye, they will be bought out and you will drive by there one day to see a new business there, but you will have no idea what it is unless you speak spanish. All the wording on the outside and on windows is now in spanish. Once in awhile you get lucky and they will print a few things in English underneath, if they have room and the print is very small compared to the Spanish words. When you live with that many people in a tiny apartment, they are able to save up money quickly that enables them to buy up existing stores in their new neighborhood.

The majority have no trade they have been taught though. The men go out every morning around 5 to 6 a.m. and stand on street corners and parking lots of Home Depot stores, waiting for the pickup trucks from construction companies to come pick them up and they work daily labor, which pays 1/4 to 1/3 under the table compared to what a fully hired into the company American needs to be paid in order to be able to pay his bills and not have to share his house with 20 other people. Americans also need health insurance to pay for their wife and children's care should they become ill or injured. They don't have a live in illegal woman they keep pregnant and having anchor babies so she qualifies them for free medical and food stamps compliments of our government.

Jobs that paid employees 20 bucks an hour 7 to 8 years ago, before the invasion got huge, now pay 7 to 9 bucks an hour if you hire an illegal and that also means you don't have to pay so much in taxes, since you are paying him cash daily and not reporting it on your taxes every year. You save a bundle by not having to pay for health insurance too. Hey, it's a win / win situation for both employer and illegal. The only ones pushed aside who can't afford to accept these jobs any longer at such a low rate of pay are the legal Americans, who used to do that work and make a nice living for their families. The longer the illegals are here, the more children they are having and then our taxes pay for their educations as they grow up and then go on to college. The 2nd generation ones will then be well educated and able to go into any profession they want. Think of the quality of service you will get from your doctors and lawyers when they work for low wages and hopefully will speak English, if not, you will have to learn Spanish to do business in the USA when this comes about. It will, in about 10 to 15 years when the anchor babies are old enough and are out of school....and remember, they were born here in the states, so their parents are illegal, but they are considered American citizens and there's nothing we can do about it except watch our beloved American become the new Mexico.

I've watched my neighborhood completely change over the past 8 years. If the citizens of American don't start working together soon to vote out these illegal loving politicians of both parties, kiss Uncle Sam and the USA goodbye. Do you really want someone like McCain, who kisses every illegal butt in Arizona to be our next president? (I'm a republican saying this too.) Clinton caters to them just as much. So where does that leave us? I'm really starting to look at the Independents. We need a change and soon.

OK ladies, at what time are we meeting in chat tonight to hold the group spanking of Hap for his birthday? I'll bring my horse whip and handcuffs. :) Bwhahahaha.

I understand that Dot. When I questioned why it is being raised now, I was referring to its prominence now on the internet, not of you bringing it up here now. I had two customers this week mention it to me.

Chattygal- I would not call you a bigot, I know nothing about you. I am confused why you would think one would do that? Since I am the only one who has not marched in step on this thread, I wonder if you imagine I think ill of you. Not the case. I can easily disagree with folks and not think of them as bad people. 'K? I would hope you can too.

~HAP

Hap, *anytime* that anyone says anything other than we should allow all the illegals to keep coming here, keep paying for their anchor babies to be born so they can then get all the benefits that the working poor legal Americans can't receive, that we shouldn't make then prove they are here legally before giving them a driver's license and start applying that to banks also so they can't keep opening accounts and getting loans that, again, legal Americans are turned down for, or dare to mention building the fence, we are INSTANTLY branded bigots. It's not you hon, you and I disagree on a few things and we have never dreamed of calling each other something nasty and I know I'd have your back if you ever needed my help.

All the border states are having this problem, we legals say anything and we aren't concerned Americans, we are bigots. They know using the race card will get them milage. If 100,000 Americans went to Mexico by illegally crossing the border and all gathered blocking lunchtime traffic for miles and miles, carrying their flag upside down or burning it or flying it under our American flag, do you think the Mexican Government would say 'oh, it's ok, let them protest for their rights and we'll gladly pick up the bill of 30 to 40,000 bucks to clean up after they are done marching and shutting our towns down'? Hell no, they would be out there shooting first and asking questions next as they tossed everyone in their horrible prisons for many, many years. Is that what the USA is doing in the same exact situation? No, we let them march, we didn't have enough law enforcement or military in all those cities at the same time to stop the riots that would have happened should we have tried to stop their marches (which none of them got a legal application to do btw), we use our tax money to pay to clean up their mess and too many are jumping on the bandwagon and saying only bigots are speaking out against these poor people who only want to come here and work.

Funny, there are ads in the paper now from farmers that need help getting their crops in. Aren't these the jobs we're told they come to do? The jobs Americans won't do? Well, the illegals aren't doing those jobs any longer either .. they can make much more money by selling drugs, robbing from nice homes, getting fake ID's and Social Security numbers and getting into construction jobs and taking advantage of our messed up system and getting a free college education with our tax money, so they can also attain a high paying job once they finish college.

The Media isn't telling the whole truth. Those of us who live in the middle of this ongoing silent invasion are seeing the truth of it daily and are willing to talk about it ... if people will only listen and not think just because their town isn't being overrun that it doesn't apply to them. 15 million of them here now .. they can't all stay in the southwest forever, they will expand out to all of our states if we don't put a stop to it NOW and send back the ones caught here without proper paperwork, regardless of what country they are from. Apply and come to America the correct legal way or stay home and fix your home county's problems.

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/032...found20-ON.html

Another day, another illegal alien, or two, or three, or one hundred and one found in a drop house. I so do hope that the different law enforcement agencies involved in this one remember NOT to clean up after themselves.

The illegals are trashing our desert and killing off our native plants. It's stressed that if you go out in the desert, PLEASE pick up after yourselves, we don't need more there by legals who just enjoy going out there to practice shooting or those who have work that takes them there... you know, like those Border Patrol Agents. (The commercials stress that you pick up your shell casings from your guns and make sure all trash is picked up and fires are totally put out.) The agents did clean up after it was all over with that drug smuggler, so by obeying the law they were found to have broken it and are now doing major prison time. So which is it? Do we really pick up our shell casings or leave them so some illegal can't get us put in prison too.

I noticed no one brought up the case of the farmer whose land was right on the border. He confronted illegals who tried to pass into the USA via his land and they sued him for pulling a gun on them as he protected his property. They won in court, he lost his huge ranch and now the illegals who won it lock, stock and barrel (no pun intended) have it up for sale. I think the asking price was near a half million, but don't quote me on it.

If that shocked you, then maybe I shouldn't mention the same thing is now happening to another rancher who chased some illegals off his land as they tried to come into our country illegally. I am praying the outcome is different on this one, but most think this poor rancher will lose his home and land also.

Repeat after me everyone who lives on a border state. We will wave nicely at the illegals as they walk across our property at all hours of the day and night. We will gester for them to help themselves to the clothes you have hanging out on the line, the food growing in your garden or maybe even inside your fridge if you come home to find them inside and they feel like resting inside for awhile. Sooner or later they will move on and if you haven't yelled at them to leave or shown a weapon of any kind to get them to leave (since they don't understand english, so you need to find a way to gesture to get them to understand what you are saying), they won't turn around and sue you and take away everything you worked your entire life for.

It's a silent invasion folks and at least 1000 more manage to get into the USA daily. I recently signed up to be on the mailing list of the Minutemen. This is their information if you would like to join too. They send about 3 or 4 emails a week as they have updates to pass on to concerned Americans.

Minuteman Civil Defense Corps, Inc.

6501 Greenway Parkway

Suite 103-640

Scottsdale, AZ 85254

Phone (520) 829-3112

http://www.minutemanhq.com

Zshot and I both live in Arizona, the state the majority of the illegals cross the border in. The minutemen are working as fast as they can to build the public funded fence along the border on privately owned property that the owners gave permission to build on. While the Government is talking about that little bit of fence they promised us they would put up that would cover a small area of the border, they haven't broken ground yet. The Minutemen have been building night and day getting miles built, all from donations by those who care and can afford to help them buy the needed supplies and food to feed the work crews.

Z is closer to the border and can relay information on what he sees there. I live in Phoenix, the hub city where most illegals head to a drop house to wait to be taken to where their desired destination is. The majority stay in this area though, or did. With all the busts now going on such as the one I started this post with and quite a few businesses, their desire to live here isn't as strong and they are now wanting to head out to new parts of the USA they haven't lived in before and where the residents may not notice them until it's too late.

OK, I'll get off my soapbox now .. sorry for the rant, but I get so sick of seeing them break our laws getting here and then having anchor babies so they can use our Govermental services that should be going to our sick and poor LEGAL immigrants and natural born Americans.

I'm glad you brought it up again but it didn't seem to garner much interest the first time. I had thought that on a forum that centers on the victim hood of its posters, this would be an issue folks would be interested in discussing. LOTS of victims on this forum. Click <http://www.healthyplace.com/site/article_faking.asp> sudo

I missed this thread on it's first go round. I went thru something similar to this recently on another forum I post on. As I read a thread there was a woman posting there who claimed to be a nurse. One of the diseases she brought up was Crohn's Disease, which most of you know I have. She spelled it 'chrons' though, no capital C, no apostrophe between the n and s, the h in the wrong place and no Disease after the first use of chrons <sic> to distinguish she was talking about one of the IBD's and not IBS, which are commonly confused by people who are new to learning about it all.

Now normally a word spelled wrong I wouldn't question so strongly and figure it was a typo, but she spelled it this way 3 times in one paragraph! I brought it to her attention and asked her what type of nurse she was that she didn't know how to correctly spell the name. I also mentioned how the majority write it as Crohn's Disease the first usage in a post and then shorten it to Crohn's after, if they are posting to pass on information to others about the disease.

She never posted again. I guess that pretty well answered my questions, since she had done many posts until I came along and intro'd myself as the resident Crohnie to her. I had also corrected a couple of things she said that were wrong, so I left that thread feeling good that she was stopped before she made someone a victim of her wrong infomation. :)

FoS works for me

(Full Of ........)

Hey Duct .. you busy Tuesday morning around 8 am? I've got something you could do for me and I promise by the end of it everyone will know you really aren't FoS any longer.

I've asked a few others in chat, but they turned me down. After reading your post, I thought maybe you'd be more apt to take advantage of such a wonderful offer.

So are you game? Just meet me at the hospital Tuesday morning and I'll slip the wrist ID thingy on you when they aren't watching and from there it's clear sailing.... *you* get a free colonoscopy and everyone will know you aren't full of it anymore.

As for me, I'll be off this starvation liquid diet and avoid the nasty prep required for the test. Once it's all over with, you can email me with the results. I can't thank you enough for doing this for me. :)

I looked out my front door just now .. this is what I saw David. We're at a chilly 70 degrees today.

LOL. Anyone feel like a game of basketball? OK, I'll be good. David knows I couldn't let a good one like this pass by without teasing my favorite tall person!

Dot, I have met Rocky in person quite a few years ago. In fact I'm about 5 or 6 months late in getting an email to him .. given how crazy my life got there for awhile. (Rocky, if you still have my email addy, drop me a line, I am not sure if I still have yours after having to do a quick delete on most I had. I can explain more when I get back to ya .. promise it won't take months this time. LOL)

I had a wonderful time when I met him for lunch and anyone who has said they like the picture of me that I post with, Rocky is the genius who was behind the camera that day. He took some wonderful pics, but now that it's been years, I know I need to kidnap him again one day and have him take some recent ones. :) He gives great hugs too ladies!

So if you see some guy running down the street screaming 'save me!' and a tiny girl with real long hair chasing him on a gold mountain bike, ignore it .. that's just me trying to catch him. Hahaha.

All you need to tell the 911 operator is that you do not want or need contact from the officers answering the call. You don't want them coming by your house. That will be passed on to the officers heading to the call and they will go to where you said the trouble was at, but won't stop and check on you. I've done that many times in the past when we had to call for help but didn't want our neighbors knowing it was me that called.

While looking for a new apartment to live in, I was amazed at how many managers were aware of that building I was then living in and the bad reputation it had. I assured them it was all true and I was so happy to be getting out of there. It's nice to not have gang members or at least wannabes hanging out on the street below my window as I tried to sleep. (We were on 2nd floor.) It's nice to not have little kids running wild and screaming 24 hours a day and their parents no where to be found. I can look out my window here and not see drug deals going down on the street corner. I haven't heard a gunshot fired since I moved away from there either! Everyone in the complex I live in now are very friendly and we all look out for each other.

Hahahaha, DataRat was over typing away at his computer when I fired up that mpg. He stopped what he was doing and started laughing as hard as I was. He told me 'I MUST get a copy of that!' LOL.

I saved a copy of it and will email him one, as I send it out to other friends of ours in the biz. :)

Thanks CK, you made our day.

I drove past other homes with wooden fences and lo and behopld BOLD red spray paint and gang words M13 then I think D Then something saying Moop something.

Dot, be very careful. M13 is the worst gang there is in this country. You can do a google search and find out a lot of info on them. They are a very violent gang. Read up on the gang and let your neighbors know to read too or if they aren't online, you can tell them all the info you found.

The tagging they do is to let other gangs know their gang is in control of the neighborhood. The first part identifies their gang by name, then the other things written after tell what drugs they sell and other things like that. To us it's just graffiti. to gang members the tag tells information to since they know what the different symbols and numbers mean.