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    Bad Counsel?

    in About The Way

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    Jan, <BR><BR>Whoa.<BR>Most leadership told people "no way hozay" to buying a home.....(to which they had no right to say) <BR>Here is your BC saying, go for it, which is exactly what he should of said.....it's your money, you decide..<BR>I don't think he had "forknowledge" that you wouldn't be able to sell. <BR> That is for you to figure out with your life style and family situation financially.<BR><BR>But having said that, he's guilty of not accessing your military situation, and realizing that you have to move too much.<BR>We have many military friends and they all refuse to buy a house until they are out, it is just too much hassle.<BR><BR> Then, yes he should've advised you otherwise, but, we all esteemed leadership's advice way too much over our own common sense.<BR><BR>Whew, glad that is over....back to my brain, thanks!

    There is no way he could have have foreknowledge; I think that is kind of weird in itself to expect that he would. But you know what I mean about counsel; sitting down with someone and talking it over the physical/spiritual sides of an issue. Does not matter what it is. And NO I am not blaming ANYONE. Hey, I did not even name him, because I could really care less.. Seriously, I don't know if some of you are really getting therapy or have a BIG Axe you still need to grind....

    Jan

    Bad Counsel?

    in About The Way

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    Well my husband wanted a house cause other military people had them, and he wanted his own.

    So yeah, that part of life is over, but I'd always thought if someone who had the ability to advise you LIVED with you; you'd be talking about the ins and outs of a decision. We don't live in a home of our own right now, we'd lost too much money before...

    Jan

    Bad Counsel?

    in About The Way

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    Well I've had nothing as dramatic as some of these instances, but I can say we possibly had bad counsel. We lived with our BC in town, and we were thinking of buying a home. He said go for it. Looking back on it, I wish he'd advised against it, as we ended up going to Germany with the army and it was difficult to sell, and then we did not want to move back there anyways. He could have told us to rent a home instead.

    Jan

    It's all about CONTROL

    in About The Way

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    Skyrider,

    The more we talk about these goons and that place the more it gets smaller and smaller in my mind. THANK GOD!!!

    Yes indeed, good therapy huh.:.) Even though I think the more you talk about something the more agitated you can get. (that's on the flip side)

    Jan

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    Should we pay $100 for classes.

    in About The Way

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    I've heard this said before: the word of God is free, but the pipeline that carries it often is not free. Since you are out of the Way, what would you be paying money for?? Unless you order books about something you want to learn more about. I've done that. Books, tapes, that kind of thing.

    Jan

    Anyone read Kurt Kahler's book?

    in About The Way

    Posted

    I know what you mean. I got flashbacks when I read the book too and remembered things people said to me. I remember I was at a ROA and was new and he basically humiliated me in front of other people! I guess I was shocked more than anything, but did not leave the ministry then because I was convinced that "there was no place like this anywhere". :.(

    Jan

    Church question

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    quote:
    That is a good quality of a church IMHO. No pressure to become a "member". I have fully enjoyed churches who believe in water baptism. I had one lady at my small group who said I should consider getting re-baptized. I told her I didn't feel the need to do it. She said "Sure, the Lord will let you know." No pressure. That's what I like.

    That's really good! Maybe this lady thought you should get re-baptized to be part of the church? But that is great- no pressure! What a relief huh!

    I'm glad you like this church, but for me, the issue I had with some churches is they don't believe in the gifts of the spirit and it was hard to be quiet (but I was) when stuff like this came up in sunday school and I knew I could not go against the grain there. I mean, they give their reason/scripture why they believe this as they do.

    But all baptist churches are not equal. LOL YOurs sounds fine!

    Jan

    I also think that if you don't believe all of the church's doctrine and are still accepted, that shows a lot of love and grace in their hearts. If you are arguing about doctrine, then that could be a different story. But if you are able to talk about doctrinal issues and question them without being "marked", then that is a good church also imho.

    Church question

    in About The Way

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    and --- I should mention that since twi daze, I've looked at Pentecostal, Evangelical, Methodist, Inter-denominational, JW, Baptist, Messianic, as well as twi off shoots (but off-shoots don't count -- cause there are none around here).

    Of all of these -- the most friendly folk I found willing to accept me for who I am, regardless of what I think (doctrinally), were the Baptists.

    Is JW what I think it is? (Jehovah's W?) So did you choose a baptist church then?

    Jan

    Praise--I have to share this

    in About The Way

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    I was searching the net when I came across this website. I did not post for a few months because I was waiting for "approval to join". One day I meandered back and found out I could post! The rest is history.

    I wanted to praise God for an answered prayer. Some of you have said you became members of Presby, Lutheran, and other such churches. I would have never considered that possibility! We tried AOG, COG, nondenom churches because we were looking for a wholesome doctrine, great worship and fellowship.

    Odd, but here in AZ the churches we thought would be ideal candidates were sorely lacking either in the overbearing-ness of a pastor, weak fellowship or other things that were compromised.

    I want to say "bless ya" to the person who said they'd prayed over the phone book when they were searching. After being frustrated and lonely for 4 years (one couple here had been looking for 10 years!),I thought about a Presby church. Well we visited there, and I prayed that it would be a right fit and my husband and daughter would like it.

    Wow,the pastor not only taught about James 1 trials and temptations, but at sunday school it became a bible study as well! Not many kids there, but Ashley our daughter really liked it!

    I'd talked to the pastor on the phone and I liked him without meeting him. Well we met him today. There is a potluck every month, womens and men's groups, HOME bible studies as well. All with a group of less than 100 people!! I believe our search is over.

    SO THANKS EVERYONE!

    Jan

    Church question

    in About The Way

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    I bring up the reason about the way people act, cause some people act kind of weird if you've tried their church and then decide it's not for you..I live in a fairly small town too. It's like if you run into them somewhere they kind of look at you funny like what are YOU doing here? Who the h* are you? (not LOL but in a way it is).

    Jan

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