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HCW said;

"Wouldn't ANY author who ever wrote a book. gave a verbal quote speaking negatively about TWI... ANY religous leader in the country, basically ANY pastor who ever spoke against TWI have the courage to "check" if anybody saw ANY stinking snow that day?

Of course they would, of course they DID."

Here's one author that did check the weather that famous day in 1942, his booklet was published in 1983.

http://www.empirenet.com/~messiah7/rsr_vcchap1-2.htm

I've decided to try out the new "ignore" feature on Mike and Alan and it's really cool. I highly recommend it!!

I've been using that feature with Mike's posts for years! :)

Like other's I tried to have some rational discussions with him, but to no avail.

I used to think he was an ex-wayfer that was posting like he does to stir up controvercy (SP?) but after years of his same-ole nonsense about Wierwille/pfal, I gave up.

Mike rides a bike with crooked handlebars and when folks have tried and help him straighten them out, he just bends them back. It's really quite sad. :(

Allan, you don't like to answer direct questions, you just like to dodge them!

Once again, instead of staying in context of the thread, you have to point at others to dodge the subject!

You remind me of my kids, when I catch one doing somthing wrong, they say something like, but he did it too!

I'm not defending VPW at all, he awaits the return as many of us will if Christ tarries.

What's VPW awaiting the return got to do with the erroneous doctrines he taught, that you seem to believe in? You attack others for their beliefs, yet you won't explain about error taught in beliefs of yours!

The point of this thread is the error in PFAL, not the beliefs of other people! If your posting on this thread you should be discussing PFAL error's, so whats wrong Allan, afraid to discuss the subject?

Mormonlady(aka Templelady)..men of old spoke as they were inspired by God..error crept in

through various translations and transliterations.

Your comments were a bit 'rich' don't you think considering you go by the book of 'Mormon' !!

Do you believe the book of 'Mormon' was 'inspired' ??!!

Why not let Mo (rmon) lady answer her own questions 'Belle', are you an 'overprotective person' ??

I guess the real question is "why lambast Dr.Wierwilles teachings when you sit in a pew on Sundays listening to easily proven absolute crap and dribble from the book of Mormon..??!!

Your comments are tantamount to 'sheer hypocisy'

Sorry Belle but I will not let some Mormon (whether they are your 'best buddy' or not) belittle what I believe to be true.

Personally, I think Allan is just trying to derail the subject and take the focus off the errors in PFAL by attacking Mo and her beliefs.

I think he doesn't know how anwser for the error's in "da class" biblically so he try's to change the topic.

What's the matter Allan, afraid to answer for your "fadder in da word"? Afraid to admit Wierwille taught error?

JBarrax and his study and reviews along with Raf and those who contributed to the re-evaluation of all things TWI taught were very, very, very instrumental in the removal of my TWI blinders and the healing of my brain. :) (well, that part's debatable)

I'm really thankful for them and the time they took to document this and to save it. That will be added to my most important bookmarks. Thanks, David!

Thank you for sharing that Belle.

Jesus Christ said "the truth shall make you free" (John 8:32).

Error can put us in bondage to some degree. This is why so many got hurt by TWI's erroneous doctrines.

While still involved with TWI, I bought into their doctrines and believed they taught the absolute truth. It was a shock to learn they had taught so much error, but in part learning this helped me heal of "waybrain".

This is one of the reasons I post on Greasepotcafe and try to help others who are still "waybrained" by sharing the truth of God's Word and also sharing about the error taught to us by TWI.

I certainly don't claim to have all the answers, but what I know I'll share. Greasespotcafe is an excellent forum to learn and share, I know I've learned a great deal since reading and discussing on it, which has also contributed to my healing of "waybrain".

Now I see folks like you, Belle, who were in TWI's bondage not so long ago, out and free, sharing and trying to help others. Praise God!

I too am thankful for Jerry Barrax and Raf plus many others who take the time to share here at the Cafe. Thanks guys. Keep up the good work.

Oldies,

I'm glad that you post. (I'm not being sarcastic)

I don't agree with you very often, but I believe you sincerly speak what you believe to be truth, and it makes for some lively discussion.

Greaspostcafe would be a pretty dull place if we all agreed with each other all the time.

Wierwille copied variuos men's biblical research claiming it as his own, but some of those men were right on biblically, imo. So in parts of some of his books and classes, there is some truth.

PFAL is no exception, it had some truth and some error, I'd guestimate 50% of both.

rev2 didn't believe that VP's books were God Breathed.

Oldies, do you believe VP's books are God Breathed?

I figure that if twi had charged at cost what the books/syllabus would have cost them, the most I can see TWI charging for PFAL would be $20.

I think they just wanted to make a profit. And imo, it's not godly charging for the word!

did Mike used to be called "rev2"???

Ha! Could be!!!

Actually Rev2 is a CFF reverand.

Wow, I even see some of my old posts from the waydale days!

Great job, my commpliments to the Paw and the other administrators. :)