allan w.

I'm sorry for deleting it !!

No, I wouldn't think the way the mind/brain works could be described as rational (as we define rational) at all. Not by a long shot !

curiouser and curiouser !

did I 'touch a nerve' ??

Interesting Sudo, thanks.

I know for sure God and His Son don't !!

that was wonderful Eagle, thankyou.

Yeah, I wouldn't mind seeing a picture of the Adams family...no, no, I mean the way one !!

Interested in knowing if people of Asian or Middle Eastern persuasion have records of this 'phenomena' and if they did/do does an Oriental looking Jesus appear to them (for example) or do they have mention of a Confuscious or Mohammed telling them to "go back, it's not your time yet" ??

Aah...but you see Twinky...as long as they are not connected with twi or VP in any way shape or form the other churches are o.k. with us !!

Sing it Dave ? was one of my favorites, Dave Lutz ( i think it was) to me anyway, had a way of singing that touched my heart.

Sums up the 'journey' very well me thinks !!

Another good reason to take up Osamas exhortation to repent of our follies and become a Muslim ??!!

Tis a sad day indeed in my adopted homeland. The stingray barb pierced his heart so I doubt he even got to say "crikey". Wish I knew where I could find that darned 'possessed' stingray that did it !!

Thanks for that Roy...I probably couldn't have put it in better words myself !!

Yes....they sound very similar to 'CYFS' in my country (chilren, youth, families service). As a couple of my friends found out...someone within the department gets a 'bee in their bonnet' about you, kiss your kids goodbye (for awhile anyway, til you jump through all their hoops and pay a lot of money for their 'family court lawyers'.) And thats what it really is unfortunately...another money spinner for the lawyers involved.

In New Zealand there has been a huge debate of late where a certain lobby group are trying to get 'smacking' of a child outlawed. The problem is 'smacking' and the law of 'reasonable force' can get very 'blurry' at times.

Sweden and some other countries had done this years ago and now have something like 30 pecent ? of children aged 3 years to 12 in social services 'protection' when the parents who dared smack their child ended up in court charged with assault on a minor.

I just hope you and your organization are NOT trying to go down this road.

Except that Paul carried on with the whole speaking in tongues, interpretation of such etc.. throughout his ministry.

And don't forget the 'special sound' that is unique to the Subarus !!

and how do you come to that conclusion Rachael ??

Here it is in even less words....the Catholic church INSTITUITION is evil. TWI INSTITUITION is evil.

Both instituitions have people that are blessed by it and both have people that use the instituition for their evil intent.

Truth is an 'aside' that stands on it's own, seperate from those INSTITUITIONS. God ( i guess ) is still able to use those instituitions to do things like 'preserve' and 'get His Word out'. Much like Israel 'preserved' His Word through their 'good' and 'evil' days.

After having been involved in a few 'modern' churches after leaving twi, these guys look so 'outdated' in their whole 'set up' I actually feel a 'bit' sorry for them !

I've often thought that. Imagine feeling love like we do but magnified a thousand times !!

I believe the 'latter' is true Groucho. He is also my bro-in-law unfortunately as also detailed in a previous post.

Heavy Marijuana users might be very interested indeed !!

Yes ex-Cathy...in a previous post I detailed what he had been up to including with one of my cousins girlfriends at the time. I personally know of four women he made 'advances to'. He is so 'lucky' no police charges were filed against him. I've also posted about the country co-ord. before him who is now staff at h.q. I guess they just keep movin' them around differn't parishes like the R.C's used to do.

Thanx Bliss, I'm doing my best to just not get 'emotionally charged' by some of these threads and posts anymore !