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The most important thing to know is that God would not allow the Nazi's to kill so many people. Therefore I believe the book is right on this one no more than 1.5 million were killed. So when the Nazi's release there records I believe a number around 1.5 and 2 million were killed. That is my opinion and I believe VPW and LCM were right also. CK

Yo mamma is so fat that when she got in the water at the beach everyone said who let Free Willy out Yo mamma is so fat when she walks around Japan everyone screams GODZILLA!! Yo mamma is so fat that she alone is the food chain Yo mamma is so fat the All-You-Can-Eat buffet closes when they see her coming. Yo mamma is so fat that when I gave her a piggy back ride I fell through the concrete CK

Make no mistake about it I believe that LCM did get corrupted in his ways. While talking to Craig did he seem nervous talking with you( Freud) or uneasy in the subject of cults. Did he tell you the name of the organization that he taught from?? When did you just decide to google him?? Was he sad or glad or did he answer with short abrupt answers?? Sorry for the questions but this is so intresting. Thank you for you reply and God Bless CK

Good enough for me. When you forgave me that was all I needed. Thank God for VPW, CK

Rascal I have taken you off the ignore list for one second Did you or did you not forgive me in the chat room Thank God for VPW, CK

Cool do you have anything to add that can be good/bad info about Dr.Wierwille. Since we are talking about Dr.Wierwille. Has he really fallen from his pedestal (Dear Craig) or did he just die. When people believe in the PFAL Class, or anything else he teaches he is right back on the pedestal. Have the scales really come off or when you came here you put them on??. Then putting VPW and LCM in the line of not right. Since Yoda is not speaking anymore, I will give you a Star Wars way of saying this. You said you were afraid of LCM, Fear can lead to anger, anger can lead to hate, and hate can lead to the dark side. Since in you post( Dear Craig) you said" I was afraid of you (LCM) and you said you had anger toward him (LCM) did you hate him?? Now I mean at the time you had anger and fear not now. During the time you had fear and anger toward him did you also feel this way toward VPW?? So anyway I will continue ending with my saying. Thank God for VPW, CK

Rascal I have put you on th ignore list now you are just a bitter woman who has nothing good to say. While I was in chat I do believe you forgave me, so really I don't know why we are still talking about this subject. But being a woman I suppose you want me to bleed. Now being a bitter woman which you are I guess you want me to take a gun and shoot it through my heart. Well that is not going to happen all I can say is get over it. My conversation well no longer contain what I have done or not done, I will now restart the VPW subject. (Rascal)Complaints can be sent to the GS administrator Pawtucket@greasespotcafe.com, because I am tired of stupid comments. While the spirits of error and the spirit of sickness might be close they are still 2 different spirits, They will show how bad they really are. The spirit of error speaks error in teaching, but as some have said VPW teachings could not have been all bad. He was sick and with cancer so he had a spirit os sickness, but he did not have the spirit of error so his teaching would not be effected. Thank God for VPW, CK

Well I think I did make mistake and I tried to say that I was Sorry for it as a matter fact I have the PM mesg I sent you this is my mesg to Rascal. "I am sorry about the most recent thing with coolwaters I hope I did not offend you and if I did I am so sorry." CK So while holding a grudge is one thing. I did account for my mistake and I sent a sorry mesg. to you, bb, and Coolwaters. It was my mistake I saw my mistake and I was not trying to pin anybody against each other. But I think you are trying something else you ran out of things to attack me with, so you dug down into the dirt and tried to put a nasty post on here. I tried to fix my error and for you to bring that up makes me lose respect for you. Your post will no longer mean anything to me, it will just be words on a screen. So that is my opinion, that you just wanted to put a mean and nasty post together. I made my error and spoke for it within a matter of 24 hours. No matter what you put on this thread I will still believe in VPW. While I think it is Rascal's main goal to make me look bad and make herself appear better. I am sure Rascal is a better person than me I do not contest that but, Rascal this is just for you as a famous writer once said "You can stick it where the sun don't shine". Because we are talking about the Persecution of VPW, Not the persecution of CK. So once again I end with my favorite ending. THANK GOD FOR VPW, CK

David ( and everybody) While Dr. Wierwille might have had a devil spirit I don't see why that really matters. He was a man of Body, Soul, Spirit. When he taught he had the love of god in the renewed mind. In his regular life his cancer would be caused by the spirit of sickness or disease. The devil spirit that makes you teach the wrong info is the spirit of error. So if I would have to draw a conclusion it would be until the day he died he taught well and his Spirit of sickness was killing him. Just about a month ago my dad had the same spirit, while he had taught the word for many years but he was still dying from the spirit. On one night God told me wonderful words to save him and I did. He went in with alot of water on his body he weighed 245. He left at 187 that was almost 60 pounds of water. The words of DR. Wierwille were so clear and they helped me save my dad and none of you can change that. So even if Dr.Wierwille had the spirit of sickness and disease and all he ll was breaking loose on him it still does not matter when he walked up to teach he had the love of God in the renewed mind. Thank God for VPW, CK

Thank you Excath and may god bless you as well. Thank god for VPW, CK

One thing that applies is why should I care about what people think of me. These are my set opinions and they will not change, though you find it harsh or disrespectful. I find it to be the truth VPW did good and you guys here can't stand it when someone says it. Thank God for VPW, CK

Goey The Reason I put Thank God for VPW to show the perseverance of myself. I will not back down I will support VPW till I Die. He had good doctrines that is why I put it in there. The messege is a showing of strength in this place. This will be at the end of every post I make in GS. Thank God for VPW, CK In order to ignore a user 1st click on the users name 2nd go to profile options 3rd click ignore user 4th follow directions Thank God for VPW, CK

SafariVista Said You appear, from your words, to be a cold, heartless individual who has practiced some devilish doctrine. (just like TWI doctrine) Belle Said and we can all see you're full of sh1t You're just a parrot with no help, no love and no value to those who are truly hurt. Dooj Said Grow up. Well That takes care of attacking the person with the opinions, I will answer 1 by 1 Safari If you mean Devilish doctrine to be VPW'S work then Yes I study his doctrines. Belle I am no bird, I have love for people with real problems. Dooj whatever, Why do you think I need you to tell me what to do (That is why I have parents) The point of your persecution of someone who has a different opinion than yours is very extreme. While I do hope the best for you all NONE OF YOU, NOT ONE WILL CONVINCE ME THAT VPW WAS BAD. So I will continue saying thank god for VPW. VPW did a wonderful job he did God's will and he had the love of God in the renewed mind. THANK GOD FOR VPW, CK

The advise that I gave is the best I can do, but any more help would have to come from a Pastor he would know how to resolve conflicts and problems that occured. Thank God for VPW CK

I would tell them that "if" they were really hurt, I mean really hurt. Then I would say go to God and find a way to forgive them. Holding a grudge this long would be unhealthy. Thank God for VPW, CK

Claude Do you see what I mean they will attack and attack until they get under your skin. Don't let them stick to what you know Thank God for VPW as a matter fact I will at the end of my post I will put Thank God for VPW. Though you will be persecuted for your beliefs. When you come here remember what VPW taught. For example you can stand at the gates of he ll and you won't have to back down (Yes I quoted that from a song). The most important thing that VPW was a good leader and he taught the word well. No matter what anybody says on here. Thank God for VPW, CK

Claude, Make sure while being here on GS to remember what you have been taught. While most of the people here will not agree with you, I on the other hand agree that VPW's teachings were great. Oh by the way welcome to GS. So once again welcome and God Bless CK

Thank you for the effort and you have a nice life as well CK

John 10:10 The Theif commeth not but for to steal, kill, destroy. I am come that they might have life and have it more abundantly John 3:16 For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whosoever believeth in him shall not persih but have everlasting life ICOR 13:1 Though I speak with the toungs of men and of angels and of not the love of god in the renewed mind I am become a sounding brass or a tingling symbal. IThess 4:16,17 For the lord himself shall desend from heaven with a shout with the voice of the archangel and the trump of God and the dead in christ shall rise first. Then We which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the lord in the air and so shall we ever be with the lord. II TIM 2:15 Study to shew theyself aproved unto God a workman that needeth not to be ashamed rightly dividing the word of truth II Tim 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God and is profitable fro Doctrine, For Reproof, For Correction, for instruction in righteousness I COR 13:7-13 7 beareth all things,believeth all things,hopeth all things, endureth all things 8 The love of God in the renewed mind never faileth, but whether there be prophecies they shall fail, whether thall be tounges they shall cease, whether there be knowledge it shall vanish away 9 For we now in part and prophesy in part 10 But when that which is perfect is come then that which is in part shall be done away 11 When I was a child I spake as a child, Iunderstood as a child, I thought as a child, but when I became a man I put away childish things. 12 For now we see through a glass darkly but then face to face now I know in part but then shall I know even as also I am known 13 And now abideth faith, hope, the love of God in the renewed mind these three but the greatest is the love of God in the renewed mind While I have been in the PFAL Class and I understand it, but you are right I never met VPW. While meeting him is one thing, I do have all or most of his teachings, the PFAL Class, Thessalonians, The Hope on Beta, the PFAL Books, and other reading material. CK

I have no need to verify. VPW is correct. CK

Well I will get some more scripture for you but I have one for you. Gal 1:11,12 "This is Paul Speaking" 11. But I certify you, brethren, that the Gospel which was preached of me is not of man 12. For I neither recieved it of man, neither was I taught it, but by revelation of Jesus Christ. Though some of you might not think it is much, but I think the gospel of the word being by revelation is a advancement. Now I will continue getting more scripture for you to prove my point. CK

Well I am glad to hear your opinion I am sure you will not be the last one to say that. CK

Dooj Why does so much of your reply has to do with who I quote. I mean how SAD IS THAT. The SADDEST thing is that you can't come up with some material from I COR 13. Since that is what are we are discussing. So I guess I am thankful that you are SAD OR SADDER OR SADDEST whatever you decide to be. So thank you for your opinion on SAD. I quote Paul Simon because I thought the words were nice. So I am not SAD I am doing fine. CK

Goey Now even if VPW did sin and taught those are two seperate things. When a man/women teaches with the love of god in the renewed mind then he/she is right. When the same teacher sins, as long as the teacher gets forgiven by God, the sin is no longer remembered so it says in the bible. Then the teacher is spirtually correct. So you who have not sinned you my cast the first stone. While no person is sin free (except Jesus Christ) therefore there should be no stones thrown. Goey Many have said VPW did not good because this is a VPW bashing site, so I would not be surprised if it were 95% of the people here. Therefore VPW "might" have done wrong he did right also. CK

I will let you in on a little piece of info .. Still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest. While I see the life long story you laid out about starting in the way going through the tree etc. The reason I put The Persecution of VPW together is because the poster's here like destroying people. It would be like a republican walking into a democrats party office. The people hear except for a few think that since DR. wierwille "Might" have done bad things, that he could not teach either. So thank you for your thread addressed to me but it does not help. You can ask alot of people here I will not change GodBless CK