Noni1974

Thanks like I said I never reall paid much attention.I spemt most of the time at the meetings watching the clock.Now that you put the scriptures up on the screen for me I actually read them.

Did you notice how quite it was while the bread and the wine were being passed?Kind of an erie silence no one moves or speaks at all.I went to this years memorial and I had for gotten about that. I've never partaken of any communion service.I've never been to another church.One day I'll have to go just to see the diffrance.

I have some question for those willing to answer. Did they have baptizems in TWI? How many are there in TWI? When you went door to door did you have to count your hours and turn them in? When you went door to door what was the purpose? Was there a requirement of hours you had to put in the door to door ministry? On this site can you point me in the direction of a thread were it explains TWI doctrin.I've read a lot of the threads but I'm still confused as to the peticulars of the doctrins.I would like to learn as much as possiable so I don't sound stupid to all of you for not knowing. :) I have more but I don't want to over load anyone.So I'll save them for later.

This would make you local JW's very affraid of you.They would think your demonized and would avoid you and your house at all costs.JW's are very affraid of things and people being demonized.They blame all kinds of trouble on the demons.Like a flat tire.Anyone else would just concider it bad luck but not JW's it's Satan and the demons stopping you from preaching. They think books and objects can be demonized.I personaly never had a demon experiance but you here storys all the time.Like smurfs were demons and we were not allowed to have them.There are storys of smurf toys comming alive and chaseing good JW children.Or smurfs from wall paper scratching kids at night. But telling them you speak in tounges is a good way to get on the do not call list.

Interesting if thats true I never heard of it.I must not have been paying attention.Typical of me though.I heard the 144,000 thing my whole life and never knew that. JW's teach only 144,000 will go to heaven and rule with Christ Jesus.They are the only ones allowed to partake of the bread and the wine.I was told that they just know their annointed.They read the bible as if were a private letter written just to them.They have no "earthly hope".They also taught the the remnant of these chosen ones will live to see the "great tribulation" where the JW's would be persacuted and killed for having the "truth".Then go to heaven.They were suposed to be people who were alive in 1914.They used to teach that the world would pass away before the remnante of this generation all dies. However they have now changed the meaning of generation to a figurative one.They no longer teach the 1914 generation will still be around at the "great tribulation".They changed this doctrain in 1995.The numbers of the "annointed" were dwindling and the WTS had to cover there butts.

Early 1980 - State of California informs Jimmy Swaggart Ministries that tax is due for religious books and tapes sold in the state since 1974. Swaggart eventually pays the tax--$183,000.00--but sues for a refund. The case begins moving toward the U.S. Supreme Court. ? February, 1989 - U.S. Supreme Court rules it is illegal for Texas (and 14 other states) to exempt religious books from sales tax. Some states had been taxing religious books all along. ? Summer, 1989 - Society gives away ?free? books released at U.S. conventions. Witnesses are instructed to place donations in contribution boxes to cover the cost. ? June 22, 1989 - Watchtower Society, files Amicus Curiae (friend of the court) brief with U.S. Supreme Court in Jimmy Swaggart case. Others filing similar briefs include National Council of Churches and Society for Krishna Consciousness. ? January 17, 1990 - U.S. Supreme Court rules against Jimmy Swaggart Ministries, declaring that the sales tax must be paid. ? February 9, 1990 - Society writes letter to congregations announcing that literature will no longer be sold at Kingdom Hall and no price will be set in door-to-door distribution. ? February 25, 1990 - February 9th letter from Society is read at Sunday meetings of Jehovah's Witnesses across the United States. ? March 1, 1990 New policy of distributing literature without naming a price goes into effect. ? The March 15, 1990, WATCHTOWER magazine and March 22nd AWAKE!--printed earlier--still say ?25 cents (U.S.) a copy? and ?$5.00 (U.S.) per year.?; The April 1, 1990, Watchtower no longer carries a price. ? March 11, 1990 Announcement is made at Kingdom Halls in the U.S. that food will be available at no cost, on a freewill donation basis, at conventions This info came from a EX JW web site.Heres the linkJehovahsWitnessDiscussion But you are correct that before 1990 they did charge a set price for the books and mags.They never told us why the change.They just said it was "new light" a simplfication. Now they don't have food at the conventions any more.They tell you to pack a lunch and stay where you are to eat.They don't like it if you leave the conventions site to buy food. I was still in when they made the changes.I remeber going door to door I hated it.I was embaressed every time my parents made me go.I didn't like asking for money.I hated feeling like a begger.Then they made the change and it was much easier for me.I would just give the book or magizen away and not ask for money.I put my own money in the contrabution boxes because I hated asking strangers for money.I hated talking to strangers period.I was a shy kid.My cheeks would be red and I wouldn't look at people when I talked at the door.When I got older I just lied and said I went door to door. :)

Good book I read it.It opened my eye to the way things were really done not the way everyone thought they were done.I'm not suprized you haven't heard from him.He's marked you as an opposer and won't risk his faith to talk to you. Thanks everyone I've got a ton of questions but I'll try not to bore you with them.

Thanks Dmiller I didn't mention your name because I didn't want to get you in trouble for showing me this site.But I'm happy to be here.And yes I am one of the more level headed people at JWO.LOL

I'm a former JW otherwise known as an EX JW.I'm not a former member of twi.I can tell you from personal experaince JW's don't pay for the magizens they want to leave you.They cannot in the USA charge for them if they want to keep their tax exempt statis.And let me tell you JW's would move heavan and earth to save a dollar.The indvidual JW does not pay for them.The WTS does not charge for them.They are supposed to ask for donnations to cover the cost of printing and the "World Wide Work" IE missionarys.But you in no way have to feel obligated to give them anything. I hope that clears that up some for you.If you have questions I'm happy to answer them if I can.If not I'll tell you.

Hello I'm Noni1974, This site was recomended to me by someone on another fourm.I'm an EX-Jehovahs Witness or as we are commanly called EX JW.I've been told there are some simularitys between your former religion and mine.I'm here to read and see what they are.I've never heard of your religion before so I have some catching up to do. Well heres my story.I was born a JW.My Mom is third generation and my dad is second but was not raised as one he and his father converted at the same time.I have one brother who shunns me and one sister who shunns me.My Mom's family totaly shunns me unless a family emergancy comes up then they are polity and speak some but not much.I'm concidered an Apostate. I'm lucker than most because my parents still talk to me everyday and I'm very much in there lives.I got baptized to please my family because it was expected of me.I was 18 or 19 I've all but blocked it out.I hated going door to door but I used to do that because I was expected to.I never really felt right or accepted by my congergation.I always felt like an outsider.I had few freinds growning up.I was not allowed to accociate with other kids my own age unless they too were JW.All I really wanted was to be free to be me and not feel like I have to hide my true personality from people.I stopped going to the Kindom Hall when I moved out of my parents house.But due to things happening I had to move back about 6 months later.My Mom told me I HAD to go to the meeting if I wanted to live in their house and I had to follow the rules.I told my Mom that day I felt trapped by their expectations and I wanted out.She went to the elders and told on me.I wrote a dissacoiation letter the next day.I mailed it to the Kindom Hall.The Elders tryed to call me and talk me out of it.I would have non of it I told them I said what I wanted in the letter and I have nothing more to say.I was 23 at the time.I was allowed to move back in with my parents but I made sure they didn't run my life anymore.I stayed with freinds as much as I could just to get away from them telling me I'm wrong and going to die. I am now 31 and my parents respect me even if they don't like it.I remind them I'm under no obligation to follow the rules of a religion I don't belong to.Nor do I allow them to degrade my morals.We have finnaly found a happy middle.I now am in a happy relationship with my boyfriend of almost a year.My parents even like him.I found the EX JW disscussion boards around this time last year.I've been learning things I never knew happened. But I'm intersted in learning about others also thats why I'm here.I want to know as much as I can about mind controlling cults.I want to see if I can find how to get people out. Feel free to ask any questions if you want I'll answer to the best of my abilitys.But remeber I've been out for 9 years and a lot has changed.I try to keep up but there are always things I'm learning for the first time.