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My mom was the person who introduced me to TWI, so its hard for me to know what are her thoughts, and what is really TWI brain. I thought of a couple of things.

"Learn to type. You'll always have a job if you can type." No comment needed.

"Look at this! A candy bush! Mmmmmmm! Taste how sweet this candy is!" I don't remember how old I was when she told me this, at least 5. And I don't remember when I found out that cherry tomatoes weren't really candy. I still love them.

"Don't yell around the baby. It hurts their ears." I wish Craig would have learned this one.

I just got an e-mail for Nava Atlas' new book, and thought of this thread. Her website is here: http://vegkitchen.com/booksale-2006-09.htm

I know this is really pushing the topic, but there's a photographer who has a series of pictures called "dreams of flying." They're beautiful.

http://www.janvonholleben.com/dreams_of_flying/index.html

Copying Templelady-hope you don't mind!

When you was in The cult some call the Way Ministry

Did you believe you were a Wierwille-light?

Was VPW your God?

I didn't think so then, but looking back I looked to his teachings for answers, not God's, so yeah, I guess he was.

Did you believe everything taught by the Way Ministry?

Not everything, but alot. I never thought the teaching of the manifestations were right. "All nine-all the time" I don't think VPW really believed evrything he taught either. If he did, why was there such an emphasis on five senses learning, and not walking by the spirit?

Did you think the Way Ministry was the only true church?

I thought TWI was the best there was, and no other church could come close.

But how do you think now?

Do you believe that the Way Ministry wasted part of your life?

Yes and no. I met some awesome people, one being my husband, got turned on to some foods I would have never tried, like raw potatoes with Spike, and falafel, and had some good times. I think my time with TWI has made me more tolerant of others, too. But I do wonder what might have been. If my life would have been better, if I would have been a better person, if I would have had more to offer.

Do you hate the Way Ministry now?

Its neither here nor there for me.

Do you hate VPW or the deeds of VPW?

I've met VP, but I've never spent time with him like others have. But I have experienced the trickle down effect. I don't have respect for VP, but I wouldn't say I hate him, or anyone. But his deeds? Yeah, I hate them.

Who is your God now?

The God of my childhood.

A lot of hard questions but maybe asking our-self these question may help our person life and they can be asked in private but we need to face the truth what ever it may be.

I've been craving potatoes like crazy, when I saw a recipe for Pizza Potatoes on the All-Creatures site.

http://www.all-creatures.org/recipes/pizzapotato.html

I haven't tried it yet, but it looks fun!

I haven't had pizza with cheese for a few years now, so if I were to make it, I'd leave off the bean cream sauce. I'd also throw on alot of toppings. Whatever veggies I had in my crisper, like now, it would be the end of the summer zucchini, bell peppers, mushrooms, and onions. Oh, and olives! It wouldn't be pizza without olives. I'm a lazy cook, so I might just buy ready made pizza sauce. But theirs looks good too. I'd throw in some fennel though.

Acorn squash stuffed with a rice pilaf is a good fall dish. I cook them separate, then stuff the squash before its served.

I'm not a big soup person, but Drty Dzn makes a vegetable stew that's to die for. Maybe he'll give you the recipe.

And of course, anything apple or pumpkin!

I was young in the 60's, but I have an older sister, who for me, personified the 60's.

I remember my mother telling her she couldn't play her new record album, "Hair" because there was too much swearing.

I remember my sister went to Purdue University. She wanted to go to Indiana University, but wasn't allowed to. IU had co-ed dorms.

I remember when my sister brought a young man home, with hair so long you couldn't see his ears. He's my brother-in-law now.

Lots of changes in the 60's.

Jerry told me he gave you the address to the forum, so you should be set. But if not let me know. You'll be a welcome addition to the group.

If you're intersted in learning, there's a really cool online church, called Agapeo Biblical Research Fellowship. :) The pastor has some great insights!

And yeah, I get called lots of different names too, both online and in real life. One person thinks I'm a fundamentalist Christian, while another will say I'm a satanic disciple, when I've only expressed one view. And thats ok. People will never agree with everything I have to say, and I will never agree with all that is said. But, like you said, its enjoyable to learn.

There's a metaphysics forum run by a man. And every month, he sends out an e-mail, in three parts. One is a part where people write their thoughts. Some are wiccan, some are spiritualists, some are new agers, some are conservative republicans. Some write thought provoking posts, some write gobblity gook. Yet, all are heard.

However, all are not understood. To understand the post, the origin of his words should be uncovered. The beginnings of a thought brought to life. Without understanding, there is anger, and hurt.

To understand my God, and what He wants, I cannot go to the beginning, the origin, for with him, there is infinity. But I can look for an origin of His words to us, the beginning of our life with Him.

Does one thought negate an opposing thought? Can a God with one entity exsist with a God with three?

Will seeking to become one with my God become a life giving breath or a box enclosed death?

Todd,

With yin and yan, mother and father, black and white, are all holy? Or are they just there? Separate beings with one purpose?

My question is where is the darkness that yields to the light?

Must my God contain both?

ok, the biggest draw to me in TWI was that there was not a triune God. I never did understand how God could be three individuals, but only one at the same time. But I question everything now.

I do understand how God can be loving like a hen with her chicks. That's awesome imagery.

So, ok, I guess my question is do you feel God is a literal two part being? Male and Female? Like the trinity, but with two instead of three?

Or is God one God, with dual (or a multitude!) of functions?

Let me try again.

Joseph,

Many years ago, I was taught that if I took acid, and that it would bring me to a closer relationship with God. I was told that people saw visions like you see. If these statements in anyway caused you hurt, please know that was not my intention. And I sure do not mean to insinuate anything about you. I think it would be really cool to see visions, and in fact some people wanted to see them so bad, they used acid to get to that place.

I am sorry that my message could have caused you to be seen in a negative light. Please forgive me.

Pat Powell??? Sexually abusing 5 year old boys? OMG!!

Pinklady, I am so sorry! Words cannot convey how badly I feel.

He was the first person I was brought to when they started the process of asking (demanding) me to leave the corps. I too asked way too many questions. And this was years ago, over 20 years ago!

I always thought he was creepy. He would pick me up if I was walking near him. I mean physically lift me off my feet while I was walking to class or work. I told him I didn't like it, but I don't think he really cared what I liked. What kind of man goes around picking up random women? Nut cases! But wow! who would have thought exactly how creepy he was? I am again, so sorry.

Ahoy me hearties! And shiver me timbers! Thar be many bloodthirsty buccaneers at the Greasespot Cafe!

Me mates and I looted and plundered the nursing home we work at. And our boss didn't flinch even when we ordered the serving wenches from dietary to bring us up some rum. I think he be a true pirate! Or he knew the store of rum was depleted.

The grandmas and grandpas cheered our deeds. One even crossed ranks to become a pirate!

Ah! Tis good to be a pirate! Now, break out the grog! Thars rummin to do!

AAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I saw your joke earlier, but I was laughing so hard, I couldn't type. LOL! That was awesome!

Foe those of you not in the know, the TV show "Wife Swap" is on, right now, and one of the wives is.......... a Pirate!!!! LOL!!!

Herbie, really cool stuff you're learning! Thanks for sharing it.

Eagle, my daughter uses this site http://www.geocaching.com/ to find her caches. You need to register an account, but its free!

Sounds like you're gonna have a cool birthday!

In your quote, you talk about Holy Breath, the mother. Is this mother, and the grace giving God mother the same being?

Well,

children count so long as they'll also be doing the manual labour around

grounds, and going on potentially life-threatening activities like

hitchhiking to LEAD, rock-climbing without certified instructors,

and bullfighting.

Bullfighting? Seriously?

Your place looks really cute! Did it take a long time to set everything up?

ok, now.......

Does anyone know anything about Numbers 5? Is that about abortion? A man suspects his wife is sleeping with another man, so he brings her to the priest. The priest makes her drink some concoction, and if I'm reading this right, if she's pregnant, the baby's aborted.

Ha, DMiller! Maybe if you played a horn pipe instead of a fiddle, you'd know the seriousness of pirateering!

But if its pirate jokes you want:

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Not-so-Jolly Roger

A soldier meets a pirate in a bar, and the talk turns to their adventures. The soldier notes that the pirate has a peg leg, a hook and an eye patch.

"How did you end up with a peg leg?" he asks.

The pirate replies, "I was swept overboard into a school of sharks. As my men were pulling me out, a shark bit my leg off."

"Wow!" says the soldier. "What about your hook?"

"Well," answers the pirate, "we were boarding a ship when one of the enemy hacked off my hand."

"Incredible. How’d you get the eye patch?"

"A grapefruit squirted in my eye," the pirate replies.

"You lost your eye to grapefruit juice?"

"Well," says the pirate, "it was my first day with the new hook."

This is too funny!

The men in my family don't like our cat to be in the bathroom with them. They say it because she likes to play in the "stream", but maybe your e-mail contains the real story!

Ha! Ha! Ha!

My daughter has a friend with a gps, and he was into geo cacheing. He took her with him, and she was hooked. When they were here, her friend went to an online site, and found our general area, then used his gps to locate exactly where the cache was. It amazed me how many caches were registered, just in my small area. The one they went to was within walking distance.

I'll e-mail my daughter, and see if she can tell me the site she uses.

Thanks for that rascal, I am interested and will google in your references. A lot of Christians think Jesus visited the imprisoned spirits whilst in the 'grave' when there is really no record of him going anywhere or doing anything whilst dead. I thought surely if there is such a thing as nde's, surely Jesus would have mentioned something ??

isnt that in Peter somewhere?

Yeah, I Peter 3:18-20. It was taught in TWI, in fact its in JCOP, but TWI says he preached to them after the resurrection.

I'm talking to my daughter and she said this:

"well...there's other stuff too...like some boxes contain themes (one was star wars that we found). others are called microcaches...they are no bigger then a 35mm film container. some are virtual caches too...you just find the location where somebody else thought there was a great view or a great hike to get to that spot"

Sounds like fun !

I've never been, but my kids have geo cached and they love it. When they go, they find the treasure, and add something to it. The "treasure" is usually just trinkets, like the stuff you can get out of a bubble gum machine. They also take something out of the box. Then there's a notebook that they can record what the took, what they left and when.

Once they left a tracker. When someone finds it, they move it closer to the intended destination. And that gets logged also.