The Girl From Oz

LOL @ Hills Bro

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It's just another pathetic troll for a fight. Still, the moderators have chosen to leave it

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Are you referring to the moderators on JWO? There's only one moderator, and he's the owner of the site. And I know he counldn't care less about anyone's "trolling for a fight".

We've had far worse on JWO than "troll for a fight". And Zixar my dear, you are just a little fish in the big sea on JWO, so no one really cares who trolls for fights with whom.

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What the Hay, I was being facetious ;)-->

LOL @ Pirate :D-->

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Originally posted by sky4it:

Could somebody please define Biblically what sex is? I mean its not mentioned in the Bible no not once does that mean I can go anywhere i want with anyone (females only) and do the "wild monkey thing". Topical events over the last many years have now concurred that Adultery is a sin and wrong from the Bible, but since I dont find the word "sex" in the bible could I go and digress?

Yes I was trying to humor you, that is suppose to be funny.

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Yes, the Bible only talks about "lying down" with someone, it doesn't specifically mention sex.

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Jonny,

You bring up an interesting point about abuse in cults, and how people can tend to dwell on the negative so much that the positive aspects about a subject such as sex can be downplayed, even ignored.

Religions play a large part in demonising natural instincts such as sex, and put unnecessary taboos into society, such as "we don't talk about sex". But everyone thinks about it!!!! Unless you are pre-adolescent or have a decreased libido for some reason, of course everyone thinks about sex (usually the lack of it, haha)!

Funny thing is, British tv has no qualms about flashing breasts on the small screen, same as with European shows.

But I've noticed that American tv is very reluctant to do the same.

As for Aussie tv, we find it hard to keep our clothes on!!

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Originally posted by Mister P-Mosh:

OzGirl,

I think that this site reflects the average American when it comes to discussing sex. Most people in the U.S. simply don't talk about it much, except for teenagers who obsess over it, and older people who condemn it. Also, as others have pointed out, TWI had a lot of sexual abuse, so it's difficult to have a light-hearted conversation about it when so many people have told stories of their rapes and such here.

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Funny you should mention nationality, because Americans are perceived as being "prudish" when it comes to sex.

After all, look at the uproar at the exposing of a single nipple at the Super Bowl recently.

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Originally posted by Cowgirl:

Not my God !!

Cowgirl

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So you don't believe in the Bible?

You mean to say that Zixar went to all the trouble of registering on JWO just to post this:

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Several people have asked me to stop lurking and answer the vile allegations made against me by certain former and current members of the GreaseSpot Cafe. So be it.

1) I do not have hemorrhoids.

2) Pawtucket is not my bitch.

3) If I have a diseased penis, Rocky must have had a cold sore.

Apologies to the JWO veterans I may have maligned without cause, and as for the disgruntled and petulant former GreaseSpotters, you're more than welcome to them.

Adios,

Zixar

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http://www.jehovahswitnessonline.com/viewtopic.php?t=5304

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It makes sense to me.

Regarding the free will thing - isn't his use of "free will" usually include "do what I tell you to do or you will die"?

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Originally posted by satori001:

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Originally posted by The Girl From Oz:

Hate to tell you this, but... [n]one of us are interested about who said what on GS many moons ago. Satori, Zixar and the others mean nothing to us. They have no significance.

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Prisca, when you say "... the others mean nothing to us," that better defines the cynicism I see than any "rebel spirit" you perceive within yourselves.

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Just calling it as it is. If you don't like it, then that's too bad.

On this site you are a big fish in a little pond. Elsewhere on the net you are a little fish in a very big pond.

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Originally posted by pawtucket:

GFO,

Refiner was not banned and he knows that. He was placed on moderation approval for a week for declaring war, but that was it. He decided to quit posting.

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So are you saying he has full posting rights/privileges now?

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Originally posted by Cowgirl:

Girl from OZ.................why don't you just stuff a sock in it !!

Cowgirl

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What a loving Christian reply

So, how is Goey? :)-->

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Originally posted by Zixar:

GFO: Thanks for the welcome, but I only made one post, so I wouldn't have to keep answering the people questioning why I didn't answer the vile accusations made there, and I don't really see myself making any more in the near future.

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Vile accusations? Such as refuting you have hemorroids? -->

I'd like to welcome to JWO our latest member...

ZIXAR!!!

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I prayed for him to get better overnight.

So, how is he?

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Originally posted by Zixar:

Interesting development...

-Refiners_Fire posts a new thread ("Public Announcement") advising the JWO veterans against further involvement in what is basically an external leakover conflict.

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He "advised" no such thing. Besides, the posters on JWO can think for themselves, we no longer need someone to hold our hand and tell us what to do.

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If his leadership ability holds,

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Leadership??? hahahaha..... (Sorry RF)

Refiner doesn't have "leadership" over any of us. As I said before, we don't need someone to hold our hand and tell us what to do.

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and curbs both Jan and Doug from further reply,

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then it will effectively cut ALL of their veterans out of the contention. It's hard to maintain a unilateral cease-fire, but if it happens, that will pretty much shut the doors on this one, leaving it between former GSCers only.

Well managed, RF. ;)--> Hope it works out for you.

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Hate to tell you this, but the only JWOers who have posted on that thread about Zixar are RF, JanH and LongHauler(Doug). None of us are interested about who said what on GS many moons ago. Satori, Zixar and the others mean nothing to us. They have no significance.

Sorry guys.

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Originally posted by pawtucket:

Laleo,

Of the posters that I recognize on JWO, only Rocky was banned. Mad Mary claims to be, but I haven't done anything with her account, except to PT her to stop her posts attacking zix. (She made about a dozen or so posts)

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I believe that Refiners Fire has also been banned from this site.

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Originally posted by satori001:

JWO says it is "open," but life as a Jehovah's Witness has made the ex-DUBS the creatures of another God. There is something fundamentally different about the JWO community. They are far more cynical, for one thing.

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Cynical because we have learnt that not to accept everything at face value, but to investigate claims and statements. Some people may call that cynical, I call that common sense.

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Breaking all rules is more important to them

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Breaking whose rules?

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than discerning the good ones from bad ones.

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Good according to whom? And why are we expected to "discern" this?

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They seem to have run out of things to complain about,

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Yes, some times it gets quiet on the board. But we can amuse ourselves, thank you very much.

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and even reasons (beyond their own convenience) to care, so they seek and welcome malcontent outsiders, from which they "feed," almost like vampires. "Bleed, cry, scream, anything, just entertain us."

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And where are the threads where we schemed to pick up some ex-cultists and play with their emotions? This is what you are trying to infer, aren't you?

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I think this thread should be moved to JPS.

Zixar should post his thoughts about JWO on that site, if he has a problem with anyone. I'm not naive enough to think that Zizar has done nothing to stir up these people. Why he has to post here to try to gather sympathy rather than face his critics like a man, beats me.

Thank you to everyone who responded to this thread.

Personally, I don't necessarily bring it up unless I think there's a need to. And it's usually with people who know me well, and it has to be within the context of the conversation. But otherwise, I don't go mentioning it to anyone.

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Paw,

To me, moving a thread to "Just Plain Silly" is a less-than-kind way of saying "this thread isn't worthy of being in the General forum". Maybe it has to do with the reception I received from a certain few on this board. Maybe it has to do from recovering from the cult I was once in.

Although, considering that I meant this as a serious question, and then find the thread moved to the "Silly" forum, I found this action strange. Particularly since it was moved so quickly after the thread's inception, without letting the thread develop a character of its own yet. How was anyone to know if it was to become "silly" or something of general consumption?

I also find it interesting that my thread was moved, yet others which could be considered "off-topic" for the General thread remain unmoved. Combining that with the general vibe I've received from certain ones here, it does seem as though I am being singled out.

Or, I could be just being paranoid.

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Once you have left the TWI, have you told people about your expeience? When people ask you about yourself, do you mention that you used to be in a cult? Do you think it defines who you are/were as a person? Or not?

It's a bit of a debate amongst ex-JWs whether it's beneficial to let people know of their background. For people like me who were born into a cult, it is a strange experience to not be part of one. Hence, explaining that we were once JWs helps to explain what would otherwise be a very fragmented personal history.

Others prefer not to mention it. Some cite reasons such as not wanting to be defined as being an ex-cult member; not wanting to appear abnormal. Others prefer to put the experience far behind them, and never mention it again.

So what do you think? Do you let people know that you used to be in The Way? And whether you do or not, what are your reasons?

Thanks.

Yes, unfortunately sex is often abused within cult settings, and for ex-cult members this can be a trigger for bad experiences/memories. It's a shame that something so good is turned into something so evil.

Re Paw, I hold nothing against him. He has tried to be fair, and I understand what a difficult job it would be to be an administrator of a board like this. You can't please all the people all the time, eh?

Melbourne is at the bottom of mainland Australia. It's the capital of a small state called Victoria. It's winter here ATM and cold winds are blowing about today. It doesn't snow in Melbourne, but I think the winds are coming off some snow-covered mountains north of us :(-->

Thanks for the welcome. I've met some really nice people here.

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Originally posted by Jim:

What a great example. The "sex" thread is silently and namelessly exiled to the silly gulag where it never became silly. Meanwhile the "where did the sex thread go" thread becomes silly and stays in the open forum.

Looks to me like preemptive moderation doesn't work too well.

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The irony is so delicious. I wasn't going to mention on JWO about the Sex thread being delegated to the Silly Farm, but the way these two threads have turned out, it is going to be a bit too tempting not to.