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The Girl From Oz

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  1. quote:
    Originally posted by laleo:

    I have a question for you. While I agree that GreaseSpot is over-moderated at times (and I think that may be the gist of your complaint, if I'm reading you correctly), what, to you, are the benefits of an unmoderated forum? If you care to answer, I'm curious. After the initial cathartic thrill of publicly determining whether someone else is a c*cks******r or a m*th*rf******r (I heard worse than that in my local fellowships), where does the conversation go from there?


    Unmoderated does not mean immoral or crude. It means that you can post what you like without expecting a big stick to come down and hit you whenever you say a "rude" word.

    BTW, I invite you to read my posts on JWO and see where I have sworn or used bad language just once (except to quote someone). I don't feel the need to swear in real life, and I don't online either. But it doesn't mean I can't associate online with those of my friends that do, either.

  2. laleo,

    I'm sorry if you took my question the wrong way. It was just, after several weeks of posting and lurking, the subject of sex never seemed to get mentioned. Seemed abnormal to me, when on other forums sex is mentioned. And then within hours of the thread being started, it was moved to the "Just Plain Silly" forum, which only caused more concern about the way the topic of sex was dealt with by ex-Wayers.

    Re the name of the thread: it's the title of a song by SaltnPepper back in the 80s or 90s. It wasn't necessarily an invite for you to tell everyone what you do in the bedroom, just a play on the title of the song. That's all, no need to interpret it any further.

    icon_wink.gif;)-->

  3. Sex is a part of life, isn't it?

    I was amused, for lack of a better term, by the fact that sex is never mentioned on this forum.

    Does anyone have sex, or aren't we allowed to talk about it?

  4. Hi Wacky,

    Yes, I did know Jan, and had the pleasure of meeting her a couple of years ago when I had recently exited the JWs. Her experience in dealing with exit-counselling and cults was incredible. She is greatly missed icon_frown.gif:(-->

    I was living in Sydney at the time of the 2000 Olympics. It was a fantastic time - everyone was in such a happy, joyful party mode. I'm glad you had such a great time! anim-smile.gif

  5. quote:
    Originally posted by Tom Strange:

    Just wanted to say that I truly respect and admire what Galen and his wonderful wife do for children. I don't think I could. So, my hat's off to them.


    Ditto. icon_smile.gif:)-->

    I have sometimes thought about fostering short-term, but I work full-time and don't feel I could give the necessary attention to a young child, particularly the kind of attention these kids would need.

  6. 1974 huh? I'm sorry that they'd had to endure this condition for so long.

    I personally don't believe in "healing" coming from God, but I wish this family all the best in finding some relief from this condition.

  7. My estimated Ideal Net Worth is far greater than what it is in reality.

    As JWs we weren't encouraged to save for retirement. After all, the "new system" was "just around the corner" and a young chick like me would never get old enough in this old system to have to retire.Armageddon and the Paradise would be here before I reached retirement age. icon_confused.gif:confused:-->

    Thus, I am 30 years off retirement with less that $15,000 saved in superannuation trusts. icon_frown.gif:(-->

  8. quote:
    Originally posted by excathedra:

    i see he's got his laptop icon_smile.gif:)-->


    Yes, it wsa a pleasant surprise to see him posting on JehovahsWitnessOnline 2 days ago. I'm equally surprised that he didn't pop in here to say hi to you guys.

    Priorities, I guess icon_wink.gif;)-->

  9. Sorry, forgot to mention...

    I was 29 when I started to fade away. I hadn't even been on the internet or knew anything about JW history, but had felt for a long time that there was something wrong, but could never put my finger on it. I could tell the JW organisation was ignoring many of Jesus' commands (such as making up unBiblical "rules") yet felt it was still God's organisation. I wanted to leave, yet didnn't know why.

    So I gradually faded, missing meetings and stopped going witnessing completely. I used the excuse of working long hours (which was true) as well as "illness" (the elders shy away once you mention illness, especially if you are a female icon_wink.gif;)-->).

    Then I found the internet!!!! icon_eek.gif I read Ray Franz's book, "Crisis of Conscience" and never looked back.

    This all happened in the space of a year. So by the time I was 30, I was out of the JW organisation. I'm now 34, going on 35, so it's been a remarkable 5 years in my journey out of "the Truth".

  10. quote:
    Originally posted by Jim:

    If you don't mind me asking, how old were you when you left? By being the black sheep, does that mean that you're shunned by them or does it mean that they don't treat you as affectionately as JW members?

    Correct me if I'm wrong. I get the feeling that there's a real deep "undertow" that exists with the JW's where if you're not on the inside, you're not part of the family and you're not priviliged to hear or know much of the inside dealings and gossup that goes on.

    Certainly such stuff went on with TWI.


    In the JWs, there's no way of leaving honorably. There are 3 ways to go:

    Disfellowship - where you have committed some sin or wrongdoing, and thus are expelled by the congregation. If you are disfellowshipped, other JWs will/can not talk to you. This includes family, although family members are allowed to speak to them if absolutely necessary.

    Disassociate - you voluntarily leave by writing a letter, stating that you no longer wish to be a Jehovahs Witness. You will be treated the same as a disfellowshipped person.

    Fade - This takes time, often called the "slow fade" where you gradually miss more and more meetings, and become slacker in the field ministry, until you stop going altogether. It's a way of leaving without causing a commotion or having to explain why you've suddenly stopped. Thus, because you aren't technically df'd or da'd, you can still talk to friends and family. Some will move to a different suburb/town in order to get away from the local elders' radar.

    When I left the JWs, I took the last option, the slow fade. I still have close family members who are JWs, and although they still talk to me, their perception of me has lessened considerably. I'm now a "worldly person", because I have left "God's organisation" in favour to "become part of the world". When in reality, all I've done is stop going to meetings and witnessing (field service) and now live just like any other normal person.

    Now that I have left, my family won't discuss JW matters with me. It's for the best anyway, because when I have tried to discuss the real reasons why I have left (JW doctrines), they get upset, taking any criticism of their beliefs, personally.

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