pinklady

I did the internet dating thing for just a few short months and this is what I learned. My freind put my profile on because she wanted me to see that as a woman in her forties I was not a lost cause. I was married a long time, and my my self esteem was very low.

It was very interesting. I became very popular and I had tons of mail to read each day. I was surprised at the variety of ages that responed. Men in their 20's to their 50's were writing. Also alot of men wanted to get married before meeting me and alot wanting to fly here. or fly me there! I only met a select few, It was always at a public place like a coffee shop..

I found that most of their pictures were 10 years earlier and they were quite heavier!!! lol! Not that looks are everything but honesty is. You just can't start a relationship of any kind when the first impression is false. I let them know that I just wanted freindship now and one guy really said he could do that but that only lasted 3 dates. I agree that people are in too much of a hurry on these dating sites. If you are not intimate with them they want to move on and I have some boundaries that they did not like!! lol!

I don't know if I will try it again.... I think it is important to take time to know yourself and love yourself and do things that you enjoy doing. I don't really think total opposites should attract. My ex was quiet and wanted to read constantly and I am a people person and love to have fun. Mabe going and doing what you like, you will meet someone with similar interests. I don't want to go searching for love, he will have to find me!!

yeah pathetic

yeah Pat P. is pathetic! He has sure done alot to destroy my family. He hides his true colors well and Geer is in on this coverup as well. I could sure use some help if anyone has info on him to help convince my kids of his true nature.

I am concerned for my daughters safety, she lives with him and we all know they have their own codes and they are not of the Godly sort. Many of you know that he has control of 2 of my kids and I was marked and avoided. That is so absurd when you think of it, It is actually funny but I am not laughing as long as my kids are in that kind of bondage!!

No offense, but I only said that because you said, and I quote: I never said I do know him, I am only stated what he said himself and from what I observed.

I DID GET IT!! Someone e-mailed me with it. Thanks for the concern.

White Dove, Sometimes in your posts you seem to think you have all the answers when it comes to Geer. YOu have not had any contact with him. I have had contact with him and I can form a opinion based on facts. But thanks for your input.

ex, I will see what I can do!! Ha!

THe topic deals with obeying leadership, children were just one of the area's. So I do think I am on target with these thoughts, but thanks for the note.

I would not call it hate but more a dislike of evil. I think before you form opinions, you should perhaps walk in someone's shoes. I do know for sure that God dislikes families being torn apart. I do know for a fact that God gave the responsibility of teaching the children to the parent's not the leaders.

They still don't seem to get it!!!!!! iT IS NOT POSSIBLE FOR GOD TO HATE.

Hey guys! I just wanted to share with you and tell you that I think I a turning a corner, For those who have not read my posts, I was really abused physically and spiritually like alot of us were but I am finally starting to feel like I want to live again,

My husband beat me a couple of months ago and my bruises are healed now and I think my heart is too! I have been beaten, thrown out of fellowship, lost all the so called freinds but the most hurtful of all was loosing 2 kids.

They are still in bondage and slavery and I will fight for them to be free until the day I die. I will not sit back and do nothing. I was in bondage too for a long time.

But now I feel that I have grown so much and I am ready to live and love again. I never blamed God at any time, He has been the one fighting for me.

Just when I thought I could not take another step, just when I thought I wanted to die He sent someone to minister to me. He has never left my side. I have seen that there are alot of loving and caring people out there. I have seen compassion.

I would like to share something that one of my dear freinds I met on here sent me. She has e-mailed me faithfully everyday and I thank God for her,

Be careful if you make a woman cry, because God counts her tears.

The woman came out of a man's rib, not from his feet to be walked on.

Not from his head to be superior, but from the side to be equal.

Under the arm to be protected, and next to the heart to be loved.

I wish my husband had been taught these things in the way corps and how to love his family and spend time with them.

I know that God wants that for me and all of us beautiful women of God!!! Thanks for being here for me. Love Pink!!!

Really??? Then I must have slipped through the crack. I have had many responses from him over 2 years ago. He got involved and really messed up something very important to me He responded quite quickly and I Have the letters to prove it.

I think this time it will be the same. You really don't know Chris at all, you only think you do. This is overdue.

You have a right to think anything you like, so God Bless you.

I just started to read this thread and not all of it but I agree. Following men gets us in deep trouble. I live and breathe the scriptures that tell us we ought to obey God rather than men.

I was always irritated when leadership had to be treated so special, almost put upon a pedestal. I remember Pat P. getting a memory book from the believers.

It was sickening, they all praised him not God. I refused to write in it. It sits on his coffee table,. I quess it makes him feel special or something. Ha!

The leader is to serve the believer not slave away on his property and detail clean his house and car!! I think the work took the place of loving and ministering to people because you were so stressed out from all the hard work you were too tired to do antyhing else.

I have been confronting these men lately. why? because I still have people I love in that bondage. It is like slavery.

I quess I am venting a little. It feels good!!!!!!!

Thanks for your concern guys. This is between me and him. I do know what I am doing and it is long over due. I am not afraid of him or any of these egotisical losers.

When you have people that you love held hostage, I do not think you should just let things go. I believe in fighting for them, I spent most of my young life in bondage and I will do anything to free my kids. In a respectable Godly way of course!! Ha! How about you?......

I do believe that God is with me and that is a good thing!!

It is time I confronted him on some issues and I seem to have lost his address. Can anyone help?

I feel your pain. I to lost 2 of my kids and I have not seen them in 4 years. They think I am evil for leaving a splinter group. Their father also left because he follows Geer who is associated with this leader.

God is bigger than all of these men and I would sure hate to be them. They will have to account for this.

I will pray for your family as well as all the families that are separated by this wrong doctrine.

Hey Lori! I will pray for you as well. I know how important prayer is and God loves to help us out!!

I will pray as well. My son Austin and I read and pray every am before school.

Thanks Connerton for your concern! I have filed a injunction against him. I know I should have put him in jail but I was married to him for 25 years and four kids!!

I can totally agree on that, if you have a problem, you are negative and your husband can abuse you and dishonor you but you should still submit!!!! I am so glad I am free from this splinter group and my husband!!!!!

They are heavy into mark and avoid, I should know because 2 kids and a husband do it!!

I have been reading all these posts and I will respont to ex's statement about Geers involvement with that couple and telling the wife to give her husband a blow job.

They seem to give that advice alot. I was also told by Pat P. in Tampa who is a Geerite to give my husband one as well and that if I did not take care of him that alot of other women would!

They really seem to be into telling wives that. They also promote the men doing porn. My husband did that alot. Not quite the picture of a ephesians marriage is it?

Well spoken Rascal!! You really have a handle on the situation with

Geer, I am one of the families destroyed.

As far as Whitedove is concerned he just does not get it, nor does he want to. So I would not waste time . He is like alot of those who follow Geer blindly, They don't want to believe he is just as corrupt as VP was and look how many lives were affected and destroyed by him, he is just following his leader.

I can tell you from experience that the Geerite group I was involved with did have way too much ego. It was their way or the highway. They even made you submit your teachings for approval!!

They exhault VP and try to recreate TWI including camps, fellowlaborours, Classes and even a mini Rock Of Ages. PP IN Tampa and JC in NJ would actually send wows back and forth.

They infer themselves as The Man Of God and love the worship they get from the followers. believers actually made a memory book to praise the man of God's 10 years of service!! I dont think the apostle Paul let believers exhault him. I refused to praise him.

They love all the attention, especially from the young girls who fall over themselves to be with the man of God. Ego? yeah, I think that is a good word for them.

Lets not forget the money. It is a easy living, PP could not support his family, he sold maps. Now he is rooling in the dough!!!

Its a good game that they play. They learned from the best.

I have alot of legalistic stories. I was actually told I had to have leadership approval for dinner quests.

My 17 year old was woirking and they sent someone to his work to say we were evil because we left.

We were questioned for missing a fellowhip. We were given a book by the leaders wife on how to get up to tithing 90%!! We wanted to put in a pool and the leader said we should not do that unless we tithe.

There were many more but just to let you know I stood up to them. my soon to be ex did not. I never cared for legalism and I never let someone try to dictate my life.

My vote is for VP then Geer for close second!!!! Geer watched all the sex stuff and he could have revealed it rather than cover it!!!

I think he is even more evil and corrupt. It took alot of thought to devise his plan of stab and grab!!

But really it does not matter what we think. I would sure not want to be them!! God will have the final say.

I do believe they will lose all of their eternal rewards for harming God's wonderful children whom were decieved. I believe the word says , they decieve the hearts of the simple. for what reason? For their own bellies!!!!

HI VICKLES!! Thanks for sharing, like you said, your ex husband still believes VP, my husband thinks he never had sin.

I was reading wordwolf's definition of narcissism, I found it very imformative, My soon to be ex just could not seem to tell the truth and his lies were always justified somehow.

There was never any empathy, I lost 2 kids and I would cry and he would just get angry and walk away. He had to hang on the coat tails of others.

I think that V.P was one and that some of his way corps developed alot of his characteristics. It is kinda like a child who grew up watching his father behave a certain way and he emulates that.

You are right we are all in different stages of healing and I think all were affected or infected!!!!

Right on Shazdancer!! I Have met some of those men myself!!!

I am praying for him as well!!!!!!

White Dove, at least you read everything on here and are not afraid of information. My husband thinks I am possessed for believing anything on here about Dr. or Chris!!

I think its scary not to look at anything and to be so closed minded but he was in this since he was 16, so he is just a victim. I just wished he could have realized that this is not worth giving up your family for.

I don;t have bitterness or hatred toward him, I still care for him. I just feel sorry for those who are in denial. peace and love!!!!!!

I agree with potato about Leadership not having the training or the dgrees to counsel people . I am living proof that a marriage can be destroyed. He actually told my husband to divorce me and he never opened the bible!!

Having freinds outside of the fellowhip was taboo as well. I never listened to that, I always had freinds ouside of the fellowhip. I never really conformed, mabe that's why he wanted to get rid of me!!!!!!!