Captain Crunch

EX10- I am sure they are lurking. They need to read the prophesies and letters. :-) CC

Hi, Billy D! Did you read Elizabeth Lynn's prophesies and letters on page 2 and 3. Can you relate to what Elizabeth Lynn went through? Can you imagine being under KAG microscope every day? I am interested in your perspective. What were you told about the divorce. Did you think it made sense after only a year and a half? Regards, CC

The Greek word pistis means faith or trust. Why do we make it so complicated? If I find I can trust someone, I will have faith in him. The way to grow in faith is by staying in conversation with the person so that you can see how he responds to you and others. Eventually you see he can be trusted. Regards, CC

Wasn't Karen Anne Graeser ordained when Mark was? If not, isn't it strange that they would ordain others before the prophetess?

This thread is getting long, but don't forget to read the files attached to my posts on page 2 and 3. Otherwise, it will eventually go off topic. CC

If the paper is only about Mark not stepping down before January 15th, what's the point? It's December 17th now. I'd really like to read that one. I'd like to here public repentance from all of them, or step down. Let's see if the next Sower is genuine or just a bunch of spin. Jeff, what authority does the ordained clergy have? Can they do anything to keep the Graesers in control? CC

Try saving the file to your computer and then open it from within Reader. CC

PS - I realize there are many who have tried to confront them, but you were discounted. I understand, believe me.

There are different amounts of culpability in what the CES/STF has done. Some have remained quiet for fear of reprisals, some believed it would be "gossip," still others participated ignorantly under the influence of the "Prophetess" and her "circle." But now that many are feeling open to taking another look because there is a board split over a firing, it seems a good time for those of us that have had contact with CES to repent for letting things slide and giving them the benefit of the doubt, and remaining silent. When the dust settles, I hope there is still a CES/STF. This sort of stuff goes on in every organization. Even non-religious ones. They just use different means. But in a secular group the members have a say. CES is just like the Way in that the only ones that vote are the board. The rest of us just vote with our feet (by staying away). I would like to see John S. firmly in control of the direction that is taken. I do believe he is the only one humble enough to repent in public. The Theisens maybe, also. But they are too far removed physically. And they obviously did not see what Karen Anne was doing. Because I believe if they had, they have good hearts and would have been outraged. Regards, Capt.

My intention is that the Board that is voting in January return to sanity and oust the ones that have misdirected CES/STF. No organization is perfect, but there are certain forms of government in an organization that are better than others. The theocracy of prophecy/dreams that has developed is absurd. I am only aware of the depth of hurt that has been caused by reading Elizabeth Lynn's letters and the prophesies given her. (see files attached in posts above.) But she is probably not the first, nor the last. Sushi included this quote: "All organizations have the seeds of death planted in them at their beginning" I believe each of us contain those seeds. The only thing we can do is to repent when we fall and get back at it again. Love thy neighbor as thyself. When we do that we are doing okay. Oh, by the way, manipulation is not love, no matter what Tocchini, Pinci or Pezzi say. Cool Waters - I really like the the idea of 'courses' on how to feed the hungry, clothe the naked, give drink to the thirsty. Jim - I have permission from Elizabeth Lynn to give anyone I want to the items I have posted. Anyone think we should hide this c#@p? Regards, Capt.

Took awhile to scan this. It is 16 pages with a cover letter from Elizabeth Lynn, her letter to believers that didn't know what was going on with their divorce, prefaces her letter to John after the separation. It is not easy to read but shows how bewitched John was to not stand with his wife. Don't get me wrong. John really has a good heart. He just trusted the wrong people. I think the root of this giving over one's will to a prophet was Momentus -- Brainwashing. By the way, John has never been on the payroll. He has always lived "by the can" (personal donations to him). Regards, Capt. elynn_letter_05_06.pdf

Here is an example of the school of the prophets that Karen Anne has forged. The attached file is a scan of the prophesies given to Elizabeth Lynn as an indictment. John Lynn was bewitched to believe these lies and that ended in divorce. Woe unto you false prophets. God hates divorce! Regards, Capt. PS - Remember it was Karen Anne that wanted Elizabeth to marry John Lynn in the first place. Where was her prophetic ability then? prophesies_about_elynn_03.pdf

I am not Jeff. He is the "sales guy." I called him that because I only know him as the guy you order stuff from. At least when I was buying stuff. It is reported that Mark and Karen Ann (his "Prophetess") wife went to the ministry attorneys and found out that as President he can hire and fire anyone he wants. It is also reported that Karen Ann is behind the scenes once again pulling the strings and directing the ministry and that this is part of why Mark should no longer be President. When they started all this prophesy stuff, you would go to one of their events and if you wanted to you could "get a personal prophesy." I have had a few of these and 2 to 4 people would sit in a circle with you and say what came to mind about you. Now I believe this could be from God. But it would be really easy to use it to manipulate people. Gotta go. Capt. PS - Oh, I forgot, this started in late October.

Now I know it is called gossip by those that want to hide what is going on, but I say, "It is commonly reported..." There is a huge mess with the CES [Christian Educational Services] aka STFI [spirit & Truth Fellowship International] Board of Directors. The CEO, Dan Gallagher, was fired by Mark Graeser, then Mark fired someone else in the office, then another one quit. Then Jeff the sales guy quit. The word is that the Graeser's and Resner's are running the Ministry with "Prophetic dreams" and the rest of the Board is not happy with them. It's a four / two split and come Jan 15th some are hoping Mark Graeser will be voted out as President. They need a leadership change and some balance brought back to the Board. The Graeser's and Resner's are really out of balance right now. They just published a 41 page paper about the rest of the Board / Staff and have heard that 70% of that is dreams.....and fluffing (polishing) the facts. John Lynn has been trying to sort it all out...it's really a HUGE mess.... If you care about the direction of CES let them know what you think. http://stfonline.org/about/contact.html