gladtobeout

Felix,

I'm continuing in pray.

Love in Christ,

Thanks everyone for your prayers and thoughts.

I have a kidney stone and everything you have heard about the excruciating pain is true. It has not passed yet.

Paw,

We have been through that experience at our home several times. I am praying for it to pass and the pain to be gone.

Please let me know if I can help in any way.

Prayerfully,

Paw,

I'm praying too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

On the front page:

4120 Balboa Dr.

Indianapolis, IN 46226

benjamin_gates...

But you click on the "Contact us" button:

Stanley Goodspeed

4120 Balboa Dr.

Indianapolis, IN 46226

stanleygoodspeed.....

So much for attention to detail... <_<

I don't know if you saw the previous page, but I drove by the address and it is an old abandoned house with broken windows and all.

Well everyone

My husband and I just took a drive to check out this guy. We went to the 4120 Balboa Dr. place that he has on his site.

The house is abandoned and looks like it has been that way for quite some time. The windows are broken and the place is falling apart. Funny, somehow I am not surprised.

Have a great day everyone

Alfakat,

I'm praying too. I went through surgery and biopsy stuff last year and and I know how it feels. God is so good and He is taking care of this for you. Peace to you.

Friday, September 14, 2007 4:47 PM EDT

Jeff Pettit, 45, Greenfield, fell asleep Friday, September 14, 2007, at Hancock Regional Hospital.

Born on September 22, 1961 in Peoria, Ill., he was the son of David Allen Pettit, Sr. and Patricia Ann (Scott) Rath. He married Sandy R. (Silverthorn) Pettit on September 17, 1983 in Jeffersonville, Ind.

Jeff worked for Edwards Electrical & Mechanical as an electrical engineer. Jeff also held numerous Master Electrician’s licenses throughout the U.S. and was an instructor for ABC in the electrical apprenticeship program. Jeff was a member of Brandywine Community Church, an active parent in the Greenfield Central Band Boosters, a former 4-H leader, and a licensed private pilot. He also was an avid hunter and loved restoring his 1970 Mustang.

Surviving him are his wife, Sandy Pettit of Greenfield; children, Alison Nicole Pettit, Dustin Allen Pettit, and Rebecca JoAnn Pettit, all of Greenfield; parents, David Allen Pettit, Sr. of Farmington, Ill. and Patricia Ann Rath of Greenfield; step-parents, Jerry Rath of Greenfield and Janet Pettit of Farmington, Ill.; mother-in-law, Evelyn J. Silverthorn of Greenfield; and siblings, David (Janice) Pettit, Jr. of Las Vegas, Nevada, Pamela S. (Mark) Bauer of Tustin, Calif., and Jeanne M. (Rocky) Guy of Indianapolis.

A Celebration of Jeff’s life will be held at 11 a.m. Monday, September 17, 2007, at Brandywine Community Church with visitation held from 9 until 11 a.m. that morning. Pastor Matt Wickham will be officiating. Arrangements are being handled by Erlewein Mortuary in Greenfield. Memorial contributions may be made to Hancock County Hospice at 801 N. State St. in Greenfield, Indiana 46140. On-line condolences may be sent to erleweinmortuary@aol.com.

Jeff Pettit fell asleep yesterday. Please pray for his wife Sandy and the rest of the family.

Sleep deprivation doesn't make you a stronger believer, it just makes you crazy and tired.

WG

amen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I remember one night our twig having bless patrol duty from like midnight to 0200. When it was the next twig's turn to come and relieve us, everyone got a relief except me. I ended up being the last one there, waiting for my replacement while my twig pals all went off to bed for a few winks before the morning run, or whatever. And so, I waited and waited, and finally went over to Owens hall to wake up the girl named Gail who'd obviously no woken up. And so, I went over there and up to the girl's floor to wake her up. I slipped into their room, and finally found Gail lying in a top bunk on top of her covers. And, she was stark naked! When I noticed that, I turned for the door, fairly shocked, and half ready to do her shift for her because I didn't know how to wake her up without letting her know that I saw he naked. But then I thought, "Well screw that! It's not my fault that she slept through, and I want a little shut eye! Maybe a little embarrassment is just what she needs!" And so, I went over to her bed, and while looking down, I tapped her on her shoulder until she woke up. When she did, I told her of my mission, and that I would appreciate her getting up and relieving me. At first she was apologetic, until she realized that she was naked and that I had undoubtedly "seen her". Then she was pi $$ed and hissed at me and cussed me with some expletives. And then another gal on the top bunk next to her woke up and saw what was going on and asked what was happening, but, I was halfway to the door by then. And when she made it over to the maintenance shop, She was all hacked off at me. I just let her vent, and headed off to bed. But not before I told her that It wasn't my fault that she chose to sleep nekked in a room full of other women, and that she didn't wake herself up. And so, after that, when I would see her in class, or across the dining room, I would wink at her, and she would smile and flip me the bird. And, were also friends as well. Funny way to make an introduction though!

That's about the funniest thing that I have heard in a long time.

6) He's afraid of a mouse. :(

I don't mind the component of our society that pushes for "payment" for wrongs that have been done. I wouldn't feel good about living in a place where people were let off the hook because: "other people make mistakes too, you know." Do you have no concept of justice? Or do you have no concept of what this guy did?

Your version of a justice system, sounds like it may be required to say: "Oh well... I guess raping those little boys wasn't THAT bad... We've all made mistakes... you're free to go! No apology required."

I understand that's taking what you've said to an extreme... but its a good way to test a thought, and yours fails.

Loy Craig Martindale ABUSED a position of power! It's like a police officer who uses his position to steal, or worse.... The punishments for this should be higher than it is for normal folks. You should rethink whatever WEAK, "WHO CARES" logic has caused you to think like that, or you may find yourself being taken advantage of again.

Excellent point waytrix!!!!!!!!!!!!

I was wondering if anyone knows what Jami is doing these days?

She was 15th wc.

I was working bp at Emporia when the drugstore that was kattie corner across the street was robbed. The robber then approached me on campus. I called the police and thank God he didn't try to harm me. My thought is that this was not the job for unarmed students. If the campus thinks they need security, then they need to hire armed security people. I was told that on bless patrol, we were not really there for security, but to pray for the student body.

I haven't read all the previous posts, but if there was a gap and many things died, then that would put death before sin.

There is quite a bit of info. on this topic at Answersingenesis.org

Ok so here is what I would like to know. How did "bless patrol" get started. I understand that during the ROA it is nice to people around to help those in need, but what about in the way corps? I mean were those on staff afraid that the facility would be robbed or something. I wondered this every time I did bless patrol at Emporia. Gunnison was out in the middle of no place, so why there? Does anyone know?

My love and prayers to the family. We will have a great reunion at Christ's return.

Suda,

I didn't have much time to post earlier. I have had terrible trouble with guilt and condemnation for reasons you described. I didn't sleep very well for 3 years because of it and was in a pretty bad state of depression. I am getting better, but I still fight it. I has been real helpful for me checking in here at the gspot. Thanks for your sharing.

ExWayCorps,

My sentiments exactly. You expressed them much better than I have been able to do.

Ditto for me.

Misplaced Guilt

Some posts here at the GSC have made me wonder if some posters might be suffering from misplaced guilt. The most common one I sense seems to occur after someone has learned of all the horror and pervertedness of the higher echelons of twi. It can be so shocking it really messes up our thinking patterns as we try to untangle the incongruencies. Some seem to come to the conclusion that since they supported twi financially, and actively recruited more followers who also gave financial support, that their support enabled the evil that was perpetrated on innocent victims, and so they are in someway responsible for those evil acts. I think this is misguided guilt. The only ones guilty of wrongdoing, are those who committed the evil, or those that knew of the evil and condoned it or aided the wrongdoers, or those who knew of it, and kept silent. No one else need feel any guilt or shame. Anger, yes! Outrage, yes! Misplaced guilt, No.

Suda,

Yes, that's me. I have been suffering with that, but I think I'm gradually getting better.

Gladtobeout I was a rockjock then and still am (I am a professional Rock Climber for a living - All I do is rock and Ice Climbing to feed my family) . I was a certified guide before I went into the corps. I mentioned to Kevin Smyth some safety problems I saw and suddenly I was blasted for being full of pride. I had a good time there but I hated how the staff ran things. To tell you what a rock jock I am I competed in the World Cup 10 years after I went to BLEAD (came in 60th and I ranked 30th in the US). So it wasn't being a rock jock that gave you a good evaluiation it was your ability to be a rock jock and really suck up.

If Kevin would have had any smarts, he would have asked you to help make it a much safer environment. Why not get help from an expert.

Gladtobeout I was a rockjock then and still am (I am a professional Rock Climber for a living - All I do is rock and Ice Climbing to feed my family) . I was a certified guide before I went into the corps. I mentioned to Kevin Smyth some safety problems I saw and suddenly I was blasted for being full of pride. I had a good time there but I hated how the staff ran things. To tell you what a rock jock I am I competed in the World Cup 10 years after I went to BLEAD (came in 60th and I ranked 30th in the US). So it wasn't being a rock jock that gave you a good evaluiation it was your ability to be a rock jock and really suck up.

I stand corrected. I hate sucking up.

Anybody else have problems with this?

I have been examining some of my thinking processed lately, and I have come to the realization that I am a perfectionist and an overachiever... That I have a really hard time leaving something undone, or not perfect. I will do anything and everything to meet deadlines. I go over and above at any job I have had, working myself nearly to death.

Why? Because I was taught to work heartily as unto the Lord. Now I don't know when to stop.

I have also realized that I am a people pleaser to the nth degree. I have a major problem with standing up to my bosses, or anyone in an authority position... Why? I think it is a deep seated problem that has roots in my twi indoctrination from an early age - that I need to have the approval of the MOG, that I need to do what I am told without question.

I even realized that most (not all) of my decisions in life were based on what would be best for twi, what was suggested (or ordered) by leadership. That is terrifying. I am not saying that every decision I have made is because of this, but a LOT of them (career changes, moves, education, etc.) were based in twi.

Anybody else out there have/had this problem? How do you get out of it?

I still struggle with the same problem. I fight it constantly. I have to make myself just say NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

It seemed like those who were rock jocks got a good appraisal and those that weren't well you know the rest of the story.

I was not a rock jock, but I told them that I didn't care what appraisal they gave me because I did my best and God knew it.

I wouldn't ever care to go again. I liked the scenery, but that was it.

You can sell all of the books in one big lot on eBay and get top dollar for that. The more in the lot, the merrier.

Not everyone who buys these books, believes what is written in these books. Some are simply collectors of books in general, or religious books in particular, or cult books specifically.

Some are purchased and used by psychology departments in Universities, or purchased and used by cult recovery organizations, so I wouldn't feel bad about making a buck off of them. You might very well be contributing to the education and/or recovery of someone.

Thank you for letting me know.