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Wanderer, You were in the Way for a short time a ,long, long time ago. Interesting that you should mention Sufism. My brother lives in Maui and is apart of that. He's the one that turned me onto the Way. It seems that we someimes run to strange gods to try and fill what's missing. It seems sad that for all these years you are still affected by that ministry. Why would you be??? If your life is so much better than ever having been involved with them, then why for more years than when you were apart of the way have you been talking about them??? What I'm trying to say is, in your own confession " It's funny I started posting years ago on Waydale, as "Bif", a name my old TWI friends might recognise. I come and go here too, and have watched and partaken in its evolution. Lowly Lolypoppy, Excath, Kitsober, I remember you guys from a long while back." You've ben doing this for years??? Why??? "I guess it's comforting to see folks shake it loose and get on with their lives." that's just it. You DONT get on with your lives.... Instead you sit in here reminiscing about the all the people that have caused you pain. You are all a broken record, wallowing in saddness. Socks, What do they teach though? Do they teach J.C. is God? Do they teach the dead are alive now? If you don't have a problem with that then great. If those teachings are filling, then more power to ya.

Actually I ws a single mom with three kids that I supported. I gave 10% and then some and also contributed my time to run classes.

Is that a quote from LCM? I think I remeber it. I left in '97. He did go into tithing, and abundant sharing. I never thought it was bad that he taught it. I never got the impression or felt compelled to tithe. I saw the importance of it, and I liked how Dr. Wierwille taught about the law of giving and receiving.

Bramble, I understand what you're saying. Since they do not control my walk with God, Thier influence will be checked and balanced in my life from now on. Their actions are between themselves and God. I hope that they do repent. I hope that they do see the errors of their way. And I hope that they ask for forgiveness to those that they have done wrong to. For all I know, you may be one of those in leadership that has hurt me. I would forgive you just as the Lord instructed me to.

"Hate to pick on a newbie but we MUST be able to go further than we were taught! Otherwise we would still be in the Dark Ages!" Pick on me all you want. It doesn't hurt. Did I say something that implied that we should NOT go beyond what we were taught??? I never heard about earning God's love. We have God's love, earning implies working for it which is Not what the Way taught (I was taught Eph 2:8 & 9). If youv'e been out of it for 20 years then you're memory is skewed.

Bramble, Lowest of the Low???, Under scrutiny??? where does that come from??? I was taught more than PFAL. I had other classes as well, so i know that pfal is old wine skins. Your whole "suck it up, say yes, sir, obey obey obey your leadership and you'll do fine." is kinda odd. God's been still giving me insight to direct my steps so I think I've got it covered.

Waysider, Now I see that the Way taught differently to different people at different times. I did not get taught that I could believe for magical items to appear. It sounds like you were. Believing, how I understood it, is "positive action". To postively claim God's promises in His Word, to act on the belief that the Word is True: to confess positively.

I loved pfal. It taught me so much about the scriptures and God's love for us. I did and still do believe. The second class, which I'm guessing you were not involved in, The Way of Abundance and Power was equally good, but different. I think that having our needs and wants parallel is important to know, plus Knowing that God's willingness equals His ability. I'm just now starting to realize that you were only involved in the Way for a short time. You were never there during LCM reign. Your sad reference to "hook, line, and sinker" does indeed refere to being dupped. I guess you were. I was not. You may have thought that all this stuff was bogus in the back of your mind, but for me, it was THE LIVING, BREATHING WORD. And the principles taught to me, were goodly, and Godly.

I did not think that it was a bad obituary. I liked it. I re-read it after reading that a post was started on the topic. I just learned of her death yesterday, just like I learned of this place yesterday. I live close to Winston-Salem, NC. I didn't know that she lived near me. She inspired me on many things. Like to not circumcise my son, and to understand female reproductivity. I've read the posts about her being uncompassionate to the woman that was giving birth. It's tragic that she can also be remebered for being mean to people outside of the ministry. All in all, she acted only in ways in which she was taught. Remember, we can't go farther than what we have been taught. God will forgive her of her sins, who are we to cast stones?

Hi Wanderer, I joined this cafe specifically to address you and your intitial thread. I am thinking about returning to the Way. I am thankful to God for them, because they taught me how to understand the bible and read it for myself. I have brought others to the ministry. I have no idea if they are still "standing" with them. And I know how you feel when you said "I do my best to connect with the confounded and place them on a suitable path, one that seems to point to their indended destination." If people are hungering for the Word, then I believe that there is no better place for them than in the household of believers. I've gone to alot of churches, disgusted by their erroneous teachings, and have come to the conclusion that theirs no place like the Way. I know that you did not abandon the household. In many instances they abandoned us. But we also need to remeber that somewhere inside that organization is the pure truth. I've felt it, I know it (because they taught me that I can know that I know). There is beauty, and love and compassion there. I asked God to reveal to me when I should return. He has led my path here for some reason, and I know that He has led yours as well. If there is a burning inclination in your heart to return, then don't let pride or anger or hurt stop you. These are the adversary's tricks. And he (the adversary) is the one that keeps our hearts full of pain. I'm sure your on the path that God has chosen for you.