tagalong

I must ask because as I look around the stories on this website there is stuff about the POTP (that was around 1985 or 2 or 3 years after (still the 1980's) and then the really new stuff like conversations with Craig Martindale between 2004 and ending in 2006. I mean, I did not even know who Barack Obama was in 2004 or 2005!!! Even the "new" stuff being discussed(like the latest radio show discussion with the special guest Trunk Co-ordinator of the USA) was a freakin long time ago (the discussion is about stuff that took place in the 1980s-some members possibly were not even born then).

So again, is it just me? or do we need some "current" topics in the main website not the forums-the forums are the only thing I have noticed so far that are actually current. Of course that could possibly be debated to, like was/is Barack Obama a US Citizen. How current is that discussion? Even Fox News isn't pushing that one much anymore. And if it's anti Obama then you know fox news will not hesistate to push it.

I think you just ask Pawtucket . . . . send him a PM. He is a really nice man.

Maybe you should consider staying though. . . . it can seem a rough place at first. . . but very informative. . . . even helpful to realize issues and work through them. I do understand it can be a bit of a shock to an ex-cultist to see the evolution and change in people's belief systems. . . we are no longer "like-minded". That really is a good thing. Considering what we were "like-minded" about.

I often relate and learn much from those of no particular faith here.

Besides, I have seen your posts. . . you have taken baby heat. . . . try defending the trinity someday. . . :)

Take care whatever you decide. . . but it is REALLY nice to have another baseball nut around!!

Thank you Geisha. Had I been taught II Timothy 1:7 as a young boy I might have been a baseball "player". But I am blessed to be "another baseball nut". lol Thank you. Are you going to have opportunity to watch the all star game tonight? Maybe I enjoy the baseball talk so much because there (in the baseball section "keep your eye on the ball") we actually have something in common (our love for baseball).

How do I get the powers that be in this website to totally delete my account?

that was a backhanded apology so not accepted and also the Word of God according to the bible is jesus not the bible.

Now I know why people never want to talk religion or politics. Baseball seems to be a much safer subject here on this website. My butt is sore from all the spanking I've received here. Yeah John 13:34. right!

Now I know why people never want to talk religion or politics. Baseball seems to be a much safer subject here on this website. My butt is sore from all the spanking I've received here. Yeah John 13:34. right!

Now I know why Paul separated and went to the school of Tyranus. I will try to never bring up the Word of God again on this website. I'll only talk about baseball. Can you get eternal life from following MLB?

there is NO proof of which "god" or "jesus" is "right" or "wrong" but mockery of others IS wrong according to ANY interpretation of the bible.

That was my flesh. I'll apologize for what you accuse me of "mocking others" (well paid ministers who are supposed to be leading people to Christ on tv).

Now can we get to the real issue? what does the Word of God say about how to get born again? What does the word of God say about speaking in tongues? I am not perfect. We need to dwell and focus on what the Word of God says and not on what I am doing that is wrong. It is not about me. I am nothing. I am not a minister. I am not paid money for teaching anything. It is about the Word of God. Please finish and get done with all my imperfections and when you are done with all my wrongs then please do not neglect to address what the Word of God says. Take all the time you need to address my wrongs but in the end please address what the Word of God says.

People really believe that is how you get born again (inviting Jesus into your heart). That is very sad especially when the truth of Romans 10 nine is available. Who is teaching the truth of God's Word??? You can talk about me and my imperfections all you want but that will not get anyone born again. Are you here just to attack people? Who is here to say what the Word of God says???

Again I ask, who is here to say what the Word of God says?? This post is about truth vs tradition on youtube.com. that is the spirit of truth fellowship international. I don't think "Martindale" has anything to do with it and neither does the current way international.

Honestly no-they are not for me.

I dont understand the jubilation at a free Bible teaching

Is that something new, remarkable and revolutionary somewhere?

I can walk into just about any church in the world or turn on the TV in just about any city or poke around the internet and hear bible teachings for free anytime of the day or night.

If you like them ---fine--but its not like they are doing anything new, or that they shouldnt be doing anyway. Is it?

The weird part was that they were ever charging in the first place

"I can walk into just about any church in the world " Oh yeah? I hear "invite GEEEsus into your heart" for how to get born again. FALSE The truth is Confess him as lord and believe in your innermost being that God raised him from the dead!! How many tv shows teach the truth about speaking in tongues? Oh, and which Gee sus are they talking about? Howcome it is NEVER Jesus Christ??? There is a lot of crap in churches and especially on "TV" posing as Bible teaching. Counterfeit!!!

Honestly no-they are not for me.

I dont understand the jubilation at a free Bible teaching

Is that something new, remarkable and revolutionary somewhere?

I can walk into just about any church in the world or turn on the TV in just about any city or poke around the internet and hear bible teachings for free anytime of the day or night.

If you like them ---fine--but its not like they are doing anything new, or that they shouldnt be doing anyway. Is it?

The weird part was that they were ever charging in the first place

I don't know that S&TIF ever charged. But when I took PFAL about the time that Abraham Lincoln was President I paid a donation/registration fee or whatever it was called. You had to pay to take "da class". and then to listen again you had to wait until enough people for a new class were available in your area. Here you just log onto the internet and presto!!! You can listen anytime on your puter.

Imagine that: learning the Bible without paying a "registration fee" for a class!! I have been getting blessed by some of the teachings that anyone with a computer and internet access can see and hear. Anyone else share my jubilation?

It's now the top of the 8th and the Cardinals are leading the Brewers in Milwaukee 5 runs to 0. I'm enjoying following them this year. Pujols, Molina and Franklin are going to the All Star Game in beautiful Saint Louis where dreams come true (I know that the real words are beautiful Ohio where dreams come true, I know , I know but hey, they can come true in St. Louis too!) As long as they win this games (and they better!) then they will continue to be in first place. Go Cardinals!

Thank you to all for the welcomes. Ok, now I must vent about something? Did ESPN really need to update all of the USA and the whole world up to the minute every batting attempt of Manny Ramiriz last night? Everyone in the world apparently needed to know immediately that Ramirez walked in his first at bat upon return after his 50 game suspension (which was really not a 50 game suspension because he got to play in the minors). I thought it was overkill. They were going to keep up updated later each time he batted against the Padres. I just turned it off. It really was not critically important to me. I like baseball but the Dodgers are not the only team in the world. The player I would choose for up to the minute updates would be of course, Albert Pujols. Pujols is exciting to watch and did not just come out of rehab. I am sure each of you can choose an exciting player to be updated on. Ok, glad I got that off my chest. I feel better now. :)

Thank you for the welcome to Hwy29 and to Tom Strange. Tonight I saw the last two innings of SL Cards vs SF Giants. I am starting to enjoy watching the Cardinals again. They were swinging at some bad pitches but finally won in the 10th inning.

Now for my American League team (the Yankees:)) This from Tuesday night has to help (can you believe this?) Boston Red Sox 10 runs and the Baltimore Orioles 0 at a certain point in the game (I just heard a quick blurb about it, so I don't know what inning that score was at) guess who wins the game? The Orioles of course!!! 11 to 10 remarkable!!! MLB is starting to get exciting now. Make no mistake about it though the Red Sox are damn good (that's why we Yankee fans hate em so much,lol). I am just amazed that Baltimore came back like that (again that was Tuesday night June 30th). I'm pulling for the Cardinals and the Yanks in the world series that's what my heart wants. My mind says it'll be the Dodgers vs the Red Sox. Only time will tell.

I was inspired by this. Who would have thought I'd find something like this on you tube of all places? I didn't even have to travel to a far away cornfield,ha ha. Here is the link:

Most likely it has to be copied and pasted in the url section to get there.

To people who think I am pro TWI I refused to watch this youtube video (at first) because the teacher was once upon a time a big name in TWI which turned me off (at first) to even listening to it. But I just (in the end) had to check it out and I am glad I did.

I believe WW is writing hypothetically here, and no insinuating that your posts are "chowderhead stuff." :)

George

Thank you George. God Bless your heart. I took it as "hypothetical" but I am genuinely thankful that you took the time to make sure my heart was protected (from hurt feelings). So I truly thank you.

I was inspired by this. Who would have thought I'd find something like this on you tube of all places? I didn't even have to travel to a far away cornfield,ha ha. Here is the link:

here's a thread for us all to give our thoughts on our hopes and dreams, thoughts and schemes for each of our teams...

... I've been here and I've been there and I've been in between...

I would like to see the Cubs finally win a world series in my lifetime just for them to overcome "the jinx" but I really love watching Pujols and the Cardinals. The Cardinals are so exciting to watch they are awesome. And of course I have to love the Yankees in the AL. What happened to the Yankees? They were kickin butt with A Rod back but now I just noticed they have slipped!! (4 games behind Boston as of 6/23/09 late afternoon).

I called 1 800 sit much but all I got was some angry guy telling me it was a business and to never call again,lol. But on a more serious note I still speak in tongues and am endeavoring everyday to apply Phil 2:13 in my life. I should dah listened when He told me to stay da hell away from this site.lol Did you know God speaks with a NY City/Brooklyn/Bronz accent? Well maybe that's just to Obama Supporters,no that's Chicago. Dang!! Can you see why I needed the Word??? Estoy muy loco hoy. I can translate that last sentence for you if you need me too. (no it's not tongues it is a known part of Spanish to me)

Ex just to be clear, I was saying that I am the one who is crazy not you. Estoy means I am. You would be Su or something like that. Your post is a good one I was just trying to provide some humor. Philippians 2:13 always has encouraged me in this area. Your post is very good. sorry if I cause any confusion or misunderstanding.

Many years had gone since the Fog Years, also L. Crag Martindale has many years outside TWI, many said that the size of TWI is just 10 % of what it use to be in its best years. Rosale F. Riverbark is not a good teacher like VPW or LCM.

But John Lynn and John W. Schoenheit are working and producing a lot of things and CES/STFI have more than 20 years of hard work maybe they are bigger than TWI at this moment?

CES and Spirt of truth fellowship have much much (a thousand times much) better internet outreach. They are on youtube, myspace, facebook and only God knows how many other zillion places on the web. TWI has no myspace, no facebook, no youtube that I know of. Are people who are committed to the Way even allowed to use the internet? That is all I can go by is the internet since I have no other information.

Tag, your opinion is as valid as that of any other person here. You have the right to speak. Welcome!

Some people have greater insight than others of the "bigger picture" or generally have more wisdom. Many people here still profess to be Christians; others say they don't believe in any of it any more. You will have to choose for yourself (yes, for yourself! You get to choose!) who you think are the most reliable posters, and who you think has an ax to grind. You do not have to accept anyone's opinion or advice: but it's a fool who ignores the lot. You will find posters who have thought deeply about issues who can disagree, but who do it politely. Allow your mind to be flexible and to change opinions.

I'm glad you found PFAL helpful. You did learn some things - some things that are true and worth holding onto. Many of these things are hard to find in churches. I never learned much of anything in my Anglican church, either. Just as ignorant as you in the RCs. Many people here have similar reports. PFAL seemed like the answer to a prayer for me, too. Perhaps it was. But just because that was the answer - doesn't mean that I should have stuck around as long as I did. Should have observed the red flags in word and action as displayed by the "believers," and not brushed the red flags off as "It's just that person."

The difficulty is working out what is true without the TWI private interpretation of what they say is true. That's why it helps to consider the views of mature posters here.

Thank you Twinky. Awesome comment and very thoughtful. Very well said and honest.

i think he talks to me all the time

not because i speak in tongues or anything, but i get thoughts and i really think they are from my loving god or jesus christ

plus i talk to him/them all the time

i feel really good about this and comforted, etc.

i guess you could call it instinct or a mental disorder lol

but i have to say, in my life, god is a great comfort and help to my soul

and i've actually helped other people because of what i'm talking about

but that's not my goal :)

okay, let's hand the mic over to geo. mwah

I called 1 800 sit much but all I got was some angry guy telling me it was a business and to never call again,lol. But on a more serious note I still speak in tongues and am endeavoring everyday to apply Phil 2:13 in my life. I should dah listened when He told me to stay da hell away from this site.lol Did you know God speaks with a NY City/Brooklyn/Bronz accent? Well maybe that's just to Obama Supporters,no that's Chicago. Dang!! Can you see why I needed the Word??? Estoy muy loco hoy. I can translate that last sentence for you if you need me too. (no it's not tongues it is a known part of Spanish to me)

If you think "ALL" the comments are negative, you're not looking at ALL the posts.

For one thing, spend some time in the Reading Room, where we're playing games.

None of the games are negative.

A number of threads have been neutral- either discussing non-twi subjects, or twi subjects in more of

a historical aspect (collecting remembrances.)

A number of threads have been humorous. We have a forum for those. Plus, we've had a "drinking game"

and a round of "twi Mad Libs" before.

Yes, there is much more to this site than what I saw when I first came here. This site is similar to the universe in that there is always more to discover. When I first came here I somehow landed on a conversation about Martindale and someone talking to him unknowingly in the Toledo OH area. And I read people saying (in essence NOT exact words,but in essence) they hoped he was tormented the rest of his life for all the evil he did and stuff like that. I did not discover the lighter stuff until later. So yes I am now (at least somewhat) more enlightened that this is a more diverse group with diverse and more differing opinions than I first thought (and not just a bunch of angry mobsters with pitchforks coming to get the Way members,lol,although there may be a few of those). I have even seen a few comments where people (beside myself) remotely acknowledge some degree of thankfulness for the Word they were taught and the deliverance they received upon first believing God's Word. Some of us were not taught the Bible as children. I was a Roman Catholic and we never read the actual Bible. If I screwed up I was told to say 3 Hail Marys and 2 Our Fathers. Somof us never heard of even the concept of getting answers to prayer (praying effectually). Some of us only heard of God's wrath and fire and brimstoneiand how we were going to hell and would suffer eternal damnation etc etc etc (I trust you get the point). At least now I know I have eternal life and I have a Heavenly Father I can call on with Power of Attorney and all that. Never knew that as a Roman Catholic.

i'll have to tell you about my log sometime

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you'll certainly be "tested" here lol

just keep being you, take everything with a pinch, and i don't know what else

there are so many good people here with such different experiences and points of view

I will be blessed to read about it whenever you are comfortable sharing about it. Ex, you are welcome to PM me anytime. I have certain periods of time when I work a lot so please have patience if I do not respond right away.

we're all the same, tag

so glad you're here

You help me to be glad to be here. I have been getting more interested in fellowshipping again with believers since being here. I have found Pressed Down shaken...etc on my space, Bob Stanley on my space and some good teaching on Speaking in Tongues on you tube. It is all very good and none of it is with twi I am very confident of that. I think (no I really believe) that there are believers who want to help others with God's Word and we ARE "ambassadors for Christ" like in II Corinthians. I have a passionate desire to apply 1st Corinthians 13 and do what I can for God. I had an earthly father who was not loving and so I have had a difficult time applying that love of God agape love but I know it is there inside of me for I am born again. Even though I can seem mean and nasty (because I sometimes feel the need-whether imagined or real- to vent) but deep inside I want to be the best believer I can be. As a Roman Catholic youngster I was at some kind of Church meeting it was led by lay clergy and they said to silently think of something you want between you and God (very unusual in the RC Church,lol). I said to God I wanted to be a better servant of Jesus Christ. Soon after that was when I came across believer and the (notorious, at least here it is notorious) Way. lol I don't know how I woulddah ever heard of what is available without the Way even though so many suffered. I personally suffered less in the Way than I did in football (where I was bullied). Anyway sorry to ramble but I am really blessed to read "so glad you're here". My prayer for you Excathedra is that God shall bless your heart Ephesians 3:20 style. Sincerely, Tag.

Hi Tagalong,

While I see your point as far as big, world shaking issues vs. TWI I find it ironic(along with many Greasespotters) that TWI promotes itself as some kind of world beating organization. I'm the first to agree with you that compared to extremist Islam that TWI is insignificant, but they (TWI) really are the ones who seem to be upset at the notions of TWI insignificance IMO.

But as with any form of abuse and those who suffered through it, whether or not the abuser is insignificant or not does not have any bearing at all as to the point that the ABUSE IS SIGNIFICANT.

And I have and will resist anyone who knowingly puts victims down because of their own personal agenda. And in the year-plus since I have been here it seems to me that some pro-TWI folks have made the very same point that your first post made. But since you are new here it is easy to give you the benefit of the doubt as to your intentions Tagalong.

For me, it is about one's compassion for the victims.

And I have seen folks who only want them to shut up.

(edited for spelling and grammar)

Quote : "they (TWI) really are the ones who seem to be upset at the notions of TWI insignificance " It really has changed over the years. It seems so sad because I remember when the founding president was invited to the Presidential Inauguration (for Ronald Reagan in 1980) in Washington DC. So sad that they now see themselves as "insignificent". I think even a small church (with very few people) can make a difference in a community and even in a country.

Hi Tagalong,

While I see your point as far as big, world shaking issues vs. TWI I find it ironic(along with many Greasespotters) that TWI promotes itself as some kind of world beating organization. I'm the first to agree with you that compared to extremist Islam that TWI is insignificant, but they (TWI) really are the ones who seem to be upset at the notions of TWI insignificance IMO.

But as with any form of abuse and those who suffered through it, whether or not the abuser is insignificant or not does not have any bearing at all as to the point that the ABUSE IS SIGNIFICANT.

And I have and will resist anyone who knowingly puts victims down because of their own personal agenda. And in the year-plus since I have been here it seems to me that some pro-TWI folks have made the very same point that your first post made. But since you are new here it is easy to give you the benefit of the doubt as to your intentions Tagalong.

For me, it is about one's compassion for the victims.

And I have seen folks who only want them to shut up.

(edited for spelling and grammar)

Thank you here to all who have responded. I have grossly underestimated the pain and suffering people have gone through and I ask forgiveness on that.

For allowing me to be here and participate I'd like to say "thank you" to all who have made it possible. I have been very impulsive in my first posts and the members here have helped me to see things and learn. I will visit as often as I can. It is humbling for me (someone who never was a leader, a Way Corps or even an Adved Class person) to be allowed to express my thoughts. God Bless you who run this and again thank you.