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Romans 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: there is no one without pride we all have pride of being right we have pride in our belief we have pride in our self we have pride in things that we do not know because we call them right pride is never of God

God/man/Atheist or unbelief/Jesus/Christ/child of God I am going to try to write something about our last moment of life! 01-29-2012 The last moment of our live is the last days to God, which the last season we walk on this earth. In God’s word we read the last hour has came some two thousand years ago but is that our last hour. This was Christ last hour but our last hour is still to come where Christ gave up his life for us but our last hour will be like Christ was. John 4:21 Jesus said to her, “Woman, believe Me, the hour is coming when you will neither on this mountain, nor in Jerusalem, worship the Father. 22You worship what you do not know; we know what we worship, for salvation is of the Jews. 23But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for the Father is seeking such to worship Him. 24God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.” What happen at the moment of Christ life out the ordinary everyday death of Jesus Christ what special does God word talk about. The are things that happen that day that which divide the courts of God was ripe in two parts and all the world was darken but the third thing are graves were open. The graves are the one part I want to share with you because is the point I want to talk about. Matthew 27:51 Then, behold, the veil of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom; and the earth quaked, and the rocks were split, 52 and the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep were raised; 53 and coming out of the graves after His resurrection, they went into the holy city and appeared to many. The moment of Jesus Christ life the dead looking forward to his death arose from the death and show they the dead appearing all over the world. Was this the dead in Christ who must rise first in God’s holy word of truth? They were the ones that look forward in time for Christ wining over death they were death but lets read what God says. 1 Thessalonians 4:13 But I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who have fallen asleep, lest you sorrow as others who have no hope. 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus. _ 15 For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep. 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord. 18 Therefore comfort one another with these words. The trumpet God sounded when the dead became to rise at the moment of Jesus Christ death so which is it even if you do not agree with me. I explain the death rose from their graves because they must be the dead in Christ God word talk about. But the alive in Christ they are we, which is the moment we die is the last moment of our life otherwise many returns of Christ different one from another. Mark 13:32 But of that day and that hour knows no man, no, not the angels who are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father. Do you know the hour you will take your last breath you might be in bed and you know you will not last long but no one knows the hour of his or her last breath. Even people about to die on death row always hope something will happen that day that stops others from taken your life. So this verse does not prove any thing at all we did not know already but lets look more. Revelation 11:15 Then the seventh angel sounded: And there were loud voices in heaven, saying, “The kingdoms of this world have become the kingdoms of our Lord and of His Christ, and He shall reign forever and ever!” What are these warning signs we must look for the day we die or the moment we will see Christ face to face. But we must read more because there more that Jesus Christ taught us about his seed in us. A seed that planed in a woman the lesser kind of the two not that the woman is lower than man because she holds the seed inside of her. John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. 4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born? This talking planting the seed in her it not talking about when come of the flesh so conceive would a better to translated inside the Greek give it as possible word for born. Do you come out of something before your planted in something? Can a person be born unless that person been conceive or planted? Colossians 1:27 To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory: Christ in you not Christ looking in on you but the seed of Christ has been planted in you, which you have become the lesser creature you are the bride. Yes you are the woman that will house new child which is you because temple is the body where the church is. But lets look more on this subject deeper study. John 20:22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost: When Jesus Christ was preparing the apostles to receive the gift that was about to be giving Jesus Christ on them. When the day of Pentecost had come there was sound of heavy breathing or a mighty wind. This was to be a sign that the gift was given but who has heard this sound when making love but lets look at your life. James 4:14 Where as ye know not what shall be on the morrow. For what is your life? It is even a vapour, that appeareth for a little time, and then vanisheth away. Your life is a vapor or air enters your body and air going out of your body Oxygen enters in your body to give it life. But lets talk about your death when you take your last breath and you die to this world. When you die what do you hear heavy breath of air until there none and give up the ghost or your born spiritually. Revelation 21:12 “And behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to every one according to his work. 13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last.”14 Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city. This is your life and Revelations has it all from being conceive d in Christ to dieing with Christ in your heart the first is conceived in the flesh than the birth from your mother womb then you die. Then you are spiritual conceived by believing in Jesus Christ and then you come out of flesh to be Christ in kind the birth or changed into Mortal kind. 1 Corinthians 15:55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory? 56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law. Death has lost its power over because have been saved by the love of Jesus Christ the act of dieing for us the mystery of hope. This mystery was hide in Moses time but is reveled to us the Church of truth inside each of us. Thank you with love and holy kiss Roy.

God first thanks Kit Sober I myself do things wrong every day we I need to pray with that in mind I am glad you answer this you remind of a loving person I sure not all the time But I do not to get you puff up or me puff up where pride of self takes over because we all are prideful every moment of the day me and you and everybody this is what I was trying to share with socks and geisha I am prideful just as must as anybody I open my self up for all to see I guess they do to their ability in some ways fear hold me back from open up all the way like socks and geisha and you and me Lotus was not here to defense what he thought so did it I was sharing not to cut him down as you saw this I was because he was honest I sure Christ was debating him as must as he could hear Christ but once he wrote it was over it was wrote so I think you for letting me talk with love and a holy kiss Roy

God first thanks geisha just because socks it does it not make right have ever heard about your enemy I did not put here for to make fun of bro Lofton to face our unbelief but that you socks done It would been better to say nothing at all look at the words Christ spoke in his defense right before the hung him on the cross He spoke no words loving his enemy completely state you do not agree but it punching hate calling him names when you ever learn with love and a holy kiss Roy

God/man/Atheist or unbelief/Jesus/Christ/child of God What is a person that believes in God? 01-28-2012 I once believe the Truth was the Church that I was raised in and than I believe it was in the Way ministry and I tried Spirit and Truth Fellowship International and others. But I found no truth at all because I was not looking at the Christ inside of me the heart of my spirit God himself. You see God creative everything from himself otherwise I had it all alone the oneness of my inner thought which my inner self of Christ. The Way Ministry taught me about spirit and that Christ was in me, which is the hope of glory but that only the beginning to discovering the truth that was in a place I never dream. So I give credit to the Way Ministry for the direction they gave and all the others that try to point me in right direction. I am that person that believes a God that in my heart there nothing to prove me right or wrong because I believe by own unbelief. One thinks why would I say I believe because of my unbelief because if a person does not get honest about him-self how can that have any truth belief in God. I know from my five senses God cannot be real but I know by inner self that is everything and nothing. My heart tells me Christ is real because I see his love in people all around me, which means, God must be real too. When we get honest about our deep down feeling we know we have unbelief even that we do not want to face it. So God creative d us from what himself making sin a part of God, which is why God had no choice to make a way for making a way for God cleanse his self of our sin. Is God sin no but God has to deal with us a part of him that must return one day as we must return dust that returns to God him-self. I see myself as the broken Man I am which all the hang up of my past and future I will have some day but for now I am trying to be more honest with everybody. Because with truth I will free myself from this unbelief I must live because everyone that claims they have no unbelief is a lie and there is no truth in them. Otherwise Christ die for them in vain because Christ for us all I do not know if that voids out God gift of Christ but I hope not, Sin is my unbelief that I hide from most until now just how I lust after sex that I do not want to have but its part of me. The part of me I wish one know but in uncovering the lie I hide from myself I can face it the first step to making it in past or putting my unbelief in the open can make me believe stronger than before or making a invisible God visible. Thank you with Love of truth and a holy kiss of Christ to all from Roy. it had The Way Ministry taught me in it but I can find it now WHY

God first thanks ham and socks and waysider yes that the question we want to know with love and a holy kiss Roy

God first thanks Kit Sober what I heard was not a person that agree with the man thought but not a Kit Sober that was going to nail the grave close it plane from your words you are a believer first in your heart otherwise you are like the rest of us but you not bitter nor can you be because you know that all will see it as you see it but you have spoken no words against your brother otherwise you love your enemy with love and a holy kiss Roy

God/man/Atheist or unbelief/Jesus/Christ/child of God What is a person that believes in God? 01-28-2012 I once believe the Truth was the Church that I was raised in and than I believe it was in the Way ministry and I tried Spirit and Truth Fellowship International and others. But I found no truth at all because I was not looking at the Christ inside of me the heart of my spirit God himself. You see God creative everything from himself otherwise I had it all alone the oneness of my inner thought which my inner self of Christ. The Way Ministry taught me about spirit and that Christ was in me, which is the hope of glory but that only the beginning to discovering the truth that was in a place I never dream. So I give credit to the Way Ministry for the direction they gave and all the others that try to point me in right direction. I am that person that believes a God that in my heart there nothing to prove me right or wrong because I believe by own unbelief. One thinks why would I say I believe because of my unbelief because if a person does not get honest about him-self how can that have any truth belief in God. I know from my five senses God cannot be real but I know by inner self that is everything and nothing. My heart tells me Christ is real because I see his love in people all around me, which means, God must be real too. When we get honest about our deep down feeling we know we have unbelief even that we do not want to face it. So God creative d us from what himself making sin a part of God, which is why God had no choice to make a way for making a way for God cleanse his self of our sin. Is God sin no but God has to deal with us a part of him that must return one day as we must return dust that returns to God him-self. I see myself as the broken Man I am which all the hang up of my past and future I will have some day but for now I am trying to be more honest with everybody. Because with truth I will free myself from this unbelief I must live because everyone that claims they have no unbelief is a lie and there is no truth in them. Otherwise Christ die for them in vain because Christ for us all I do not know if that voids out God gift of Christ but I hope not, Sin is my unbelief that I hide from most until now just how I lust after sex that I do not want to have but its part of me. The part of me I wish one know but in uncovering the lie I hide from myself I can face it the first step to making it in past or putting my unbelief in the open can make me believe stronger than before or making a invisible God visible. Thank you with Love of truth and a holy kiss of Christ to all from Roy.

God first thanks Linda Z thanks Linda Z you made me smile my friend you understand why I posted this because the person search himself maybe he did not get same as you but you had that hippie Christian person to direct you in the direction because that all we can do and who knows maybe someone is directing him because Atheist means nothing and Christian means nothing too all man battle something whether its unbelief or its belief the two side of faith with love and a holy kiss Roy

God first thanks socks il·lu·sion (-lzhn) n. 1. a. An erroneous perception of reality. b. An erroneous concept or belief. 2. The condition of being deceived by a false perception or belief. 3. Something, such as a fantastic plan or desire, that causes an erroneous belief or perception. 4. Illusionism in art. 5. A fine transparent cloth, used for dresses or trimmings. [Middle English, from Old French, from Late Latin illsi, illsin-, from Latin, a mocking, irony, from illsus, past participle of illdere, to mock : in-, against; see in-2 + ldere, to play; see leid- in Indo-European roots.] il·lusion·al, il·lusion·ary (-zh-nr) adj. il·lusion·less adj. An perception of reality of a God seeing water that not there in the sand otherwise the perception there is the impossible which is real because of my belief in it God is more than I can Imagine and less I can Imagine the belief I have and the unbelief have otherwise God a real spirit and God the illusion of God Bro Lustus seems to believe there no God while you seem to believe that is a God how can God be real or on the other hand how God be not real you we fight our faith by our unfaith or we fight our unfaith by our faith the two sides of God with love and a holy kiss Roy

God first thanks everybody I still believe God can not be proven to be or not to be is a shame some can not read for what it is a man believes there is God and another one believes there is not a God what does it matter will it changed my believed No I either believe in a thing I can not proved or not that some call a God and others illusion I see it as both the illusion i believe in with love and a holy kiss Roy

God first thanks waysider yes that make me smile with love and a holy kiss Roy God first thanks geisha779 you have not have unintentionally antagonized me or you have not intentionally antagonized me I trying to teach to look at yourself as a temple of God I just share not looking for anything I share what bro Loftus thought but you took as a attacked on your religion I never attacked you I just share with you so I share my thought on what bro Loftus inspired me to hear from God with love and a holy kiss Roy

God first thanks Socks I meant the perfect will of God nothing other than the will of God otherwise not what a person one person says I will put on love for truth the best I can but this my take not bro Loftus view where your love for your enemy do you know who is your enemy your enemy is socks and mine is Roy do you think you can make another believe God's will all we can do is point them in right direction we battle against ourself our inner self our temple of truth your believes are not in a vain book called the bible your believes in your heart where the truth lives for you his view is what I share to open this talk with you the perfect will God was what I heard from God in my inner self the seed of Christ inside my spirit with love and a holy kiss Roy added to this God first thanks David or Star and Morbius and Jezebel and tommii and Magi728 David one be conceive in Christ a new creature we all sin and short of God's glory should show you Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; 1John.1 [1] That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life; [2] (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;) [3] That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ. [4] And these things write we unto you, that your joy may be full. [5] This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. [6] If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth: [7] But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. [8] If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. [9] If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. [10] If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. we sin the flesh but our spirit stays pure Joh 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again [from above, spiritually], he cannot see the kingdom of God. do you know what is to born spiritually born again = conceive again Jesus Christ put his image in us A man puts his image in a woman by making love to her Christ planted his seed in us by sharing God's love with in the seed you can not sin but we still in body form I used to think like Star I was proud I believe I could not wrong but I did again and again over and over then I saw the word for Born again was better translated conceive from above #1080. γεννα´ω gennaō; from γε´ννα genna (descent, birth); to beget, to bring forth:— NASB - bear(1), bearing children(1), became the father of(4), became...father(1), begotten(4), bore(1), born(41), Child(1), conceived(1), father(37), Father(1), gave(1), gives birth(1), produce(1) Look at the word conceived its there became a father its there produce a child its there too begotten is there to this could any these words while we have been taught what because a man taught us think think think with love and a holy kiss Roy

God first thanks socks and geisha779 Socks Says "actually like to "debate" anything Roy, such as the items you posted earlier, please do. If what you want is to post something and get "0" responses or a lot of one-hand clapping, that's fine too. Otherwise continue to make general sweeping statements about what everyone else thinks and should do and whine about everyone else's pride. " I never said I wanted to debate with anybody I just share this geisha779 Says "I can't imagine questioning my faith every moment. I can't imagine living like that. It would be torture. My faith in God....isn't about me." you do not have to but Me and Kit Sober may if ok with you - than geisha779 Says "None of that is what the initial post was about." can she not read the Title is "Ten Reasons Why Most Believers Don't Seriously Question Their Faith" look this one man reason out of why but I never said it was mine and I not going to but I can respect a Man reasons with love and a holy kiss Roy

God first thanks Kit Sober thank you my dear I am smiling again A wise person is Kit Sober with love and a holy kiss Roy

God first thanks Ham thank you my friend with love and a holy kiss Roy

God first thanks socks and geisha779 with love and a holy kiss Roy God/man/Atheist/Jesus/Christ/child of God Why I got out the Way Ministry? 01-24-25-2012 I have begin to employ the real reason people leave ministries or believe systems by looking at myself first so we are talking the first church I was in to the last ministry I was in. We leave one place because it fells to give us we wanted. For me the church did not give the truth then the way ministry fell me but who fell me? Pride is a dirty word for most of us but it what happen to me I saw my religion as the as the reason for me felling but who really fell short I did. In Matthew it reads Satan get behind me, which pride that got in my way. Yes the pride of religion got in Peter way Peter believe Jesus would him slip way but Jesus did not. The pride of not being right got in my way and your way when I posted on doctrine and others places about “Ten Reasons Why Most Believers Don't Seriously Question Their Faith” others got what. You tell me did pride made some judge wrong while others saw that they did agreed with the man that every body has right to judge for them selves. Once you take a stand making a remark about the writer you have let pride get in your way I am not speaking for the man but I also not cutting the man questioning. I quested the Way Ministry by not seeing their Way, as right I should question myself for joining it in the first place. The pride I had for the Way ministry is what got in my way I could not see it because I had pride for Way believes otherwise I was the one that let pride in his way. But today I search out myself for area’s where I have pride getting in my path and I remove the pride from myself. Look I write “God/man/Atheist/Jesus/Christ/child of God” God for God’s first, Man for the state in am in, Atheist is what I battle against, Jesus is man that saved me from myself, Christ is the birth that is coming, and child of God is what I shall be someday. I see myself has a broken man got up in sin but God loves me enough to make a way out which is God’s son the Christ. I know this get you where you do not want to face but truth always makes us want to cry because we cannot face the truth but facing the truth is only to free yourself from it. Christ came to free us from yourself cutting the bonds of religion that we put our selves in. Your temple which is your house where every thought lives to be bitter or prideful but it be better to remove every bitterness or prideful felling you can have and replace them with love. Put on the perfect will of God doing God will from your heart do not get caught in religion pride which does you no good. Be willing to debate anything letting nothing mold you with false religion, which is not right. I am going to end now but thank you all with love of God and a holy kiss from Roy. thanks waysider yes there are some jewelry with love and a holy kiss Roy

God/man/Atheist/Jesus/Christ/child of God Why I got out the Way Ministry? 01-24-25-2012 I have begin to employ the real reason people leave ministries or believe systems by looking at myself first so we are talking the first church I was in to the last ministry I was in. We leave one place because it fells to give us we wanted. For me the church did not give the truth then the way ministry fell me but who fell me? Pride is a dirty word for most of us but it what happen to me I saw my religion as the as the reason for me felling but who really fell short I did. In Matthew it reads Satan get behind me, which pride that got in my way. Yes the pride of religion got in Peter way Peter believe Jesus would him slip way but Jesus did not. The pride of not being right got in my way and your way when I posted on doctrine and others places about “Ten Reasons Why Most Believers Don't Seriously Question Their Faith” others got what. You tell me did pride made some judge wrong while others saw that they did agreed with the man that every body has right to judge for them selves. Once you take a stand making a remark about the writer you have let pride get in your way I am not speaking for the man but I also not cutting the man questioning. I quested the Way Ministry by not seeing their Way, as right I should question myself for joining it in the first place. The pride I had for the Way ministry is what got in my way I could not see it because I had pride for Way believes otherwise I was the one that let pride in his way. But today I search out myself for area’s where I have pride getting in my path and I remove the pride from myself. Look I write “God/man/Atheist/Jesus/Christ/child of God” God for God’s first, Man for the state in am in, Atheist is what I battle against, Jesus is man that saved me from myself, Christ is the birth that is coming, and child of God is what I shall be someday. I see myself has a broken man got up in sin but God loves me enough to make a way out which is God’s son the Christ. I know this get you where you do not want to face but truth always makes us want to cry because we cannot face the truth but facing the truth is only to free yourself from it. Christ came to free us from yourself cutting the bonds of religion that we put our selves in. Your temple which is your house where every thought lives to be bitter or prideful but it be better to remove every bitterness or prideful felling you can have and replace them with love. Put on the perfect will of God doing God will from your heart do not get caught in religion pride which does you no good. Be willing to debate anything letting nothing mold you with false religion, which is not right. I am going to end now but thank you all with love of God and a holy kiss from Roy.

God first thanks Socks with love and a holy kiss Roy

God first thanks WordWolf what fools we became when pride in our ways you are so religion into your religion you cannot see it I try to put off my religion everyday putting the pride of self behind me socks knows we all have unbelief than we have religion problems This Man is a man of God even if you and socks and geisha do not see it the pride of fool religion has got in your way we all must say to ourself get behind me satan of religion which pride This starts out with "Ten Reasons Why Most Believers Don't Seriously Question Their Faith By John W. Loftus at 1/17/2012 This topic interests me to no end. Why don't most believers seriously question their faith? Does it take a special type of individual? " this could be anybody put lets look more Have you question your faith? or is your religion holding you back from it or are you lying to yourself to question God can only make him bigger in your life what are you afraid of ----------------- John W. Loftus is an author and teacher. For roughly two decades John W. Loftus was an evangelical Christian, an ordained minister of the Church of Christ, and an apologist for Christianity. Over the years he gradually began to experience doubts about the veracity of the Christian worldview and became and atheist. Much of his current writing and teaching focuses on his reasons for rejecting Christian beliefs. In addition to ordained ministry, Loftus taught at several Christian universities. He is currently an adjunct instructor in philosophy at Kellogg Community College. [edit]Education John W. Loftus earned M.A. and M.Div. degrees in theology and philosophy from Lincoln Christian Seminary under the guidance of Dr. James D. Strauss. He then attended Trinity Evangelical Divinity School, where he studied under Dr. William Lane Craig and received a Th.M. degree in philosophy of religion. --------------------------------------------------- so this man is one of us high on religion a normal human with beliefs and unbeliefs he can not get away from To said this work is one of Atheist is wrong to say his work is one of Christian is wrong too this man is man that battles his unbelief by his beliefs that the anybody can do we must question everything about ourself to become more like Christ with love and a holy kiss Roy

God first thanks geisha I never said i am not in same boat as socks what is unbelief than? we have some is honest saying we do not all have any is lying socks was pride ful in his statement everything is not alright to debate NO because everything is fare to debate but your pride is getting in your way like socks pride I have pride too but I read the study that was put in my path but socks and you show your pride by "It seems to me that this blurb you posted is less about helping people recover from cult abuse and more an attitude about a person's faith in God. Why does he care? Does he want to rescue people from faith in God? He must have the correct way and the right answers about a creator to make the sweeping generalizations he makes. There are a great many assumptions in his post and it smacks of proselytizing. Recruits for an atheist army?" like Jesus once told one of apostles Matthew 16:23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men. Peter was letting pride get in his way this is a man of God that see's though rose color glasses like you and me or socks and me I just pointed socks unbelief out how about you do you have any unbelief because I do with love and a holy kiss Roy

God first thanks Socks I do not want your faith I do not care what you believe or do not this guy has done a study about believe -v- unbelief you pointed out why you did not like his work than you got prideful with your statement "Wow, that's a crappy attitude. Frankly, some of this reads like nonsense - like this statement - "The more we know the more we should doubt"... SO I pointed that you have unbelief too this is good study to me but its nonsense to socks It been better just saying nothing but you acted Way Ministry toward it than when i try to should you what you were missing you attacked me like the Way Ministry did When are we going to put this Pride away we both have but only I have face it in my life with love and a holy kiss Roy

God first thanks Socks it is like saying we believing 100% of the time but we can only believe 99% of time we are lying to ourself it takes to make it complete do you remember the father that Jesus to help his unbelief so is socks greater that the father there NO SOCKS STILL HAS UNBELIEF socks must battle socks walk with love and a holy kiss Roy God first thanks Human without the bean you have blessed me my friend with love and a holy kiss Roy

God first thanks geisha779 it is thinking outside religion just you try to save money with out coupon while that not me I would tell a person to used them but if you see it is to get truthful that ok like can you name 10 reasons why you believe in God with having some lying in it sure the God's tells us to but do you is there not even 1% of unbelief there because your not perfect either we all have some unbelief in our walk that why we need God with love and a holy kiss Roy

from another board Lotta truth in that one. It is not easy to walk away from church and friends and be the odd one out at all. That is so true. We all have the innate desire to be accepted to others. It is true. That is why we get upset at those quite often that will not accept us as we are, or as we believe. Doesn't matter what it is we believe or don't believe either. Ask Art or anyone here, including myself that doesn't get upset with others. Especially when they attempt to make you look stupid by their coy remarks about I am right, and you are wrong. I found that a very interesting read myself, Maybe because I am listed somewhere within those that are a non conformist with the masses as well. Their are those around still today that are like that, believe it or not. I think some of them seem to gather over here from time to time too. So you that are a conformist to the majority, better be careful, for we might just convince you to be one of those like Jesus was himself. As He didn't conform to much of anything within the religious realm of his day at all. I mean he was this kook that was born in a barn, that came on the scene calling other men to "follow me". Then along came this other guy that wrote a lot of the NT, that got knocked off his a--, onto his a--, some voice saying to Him why are you persecuting me. Or close anyways. Then is blinded, then lead back to Damascus. Having to wait for god to tell this dude Ananias to go to this guy that was a previous Christian killer and do what He was told to do when he got there. So he did, then Paul went staight away preaching Christ for a while, until those same dudes that he was involved with came after him, The good guys letting him down over this wall to escape those that did want to arrest him now. Talk about some nut, Paul was certainly that. One day he is after the good guys to kill them, the next thing you know he is one of em. Well anyway, Roy, I will leave you with this little tidbit. It takes a nut to know one huh? LOL If you do not begin right in the Lord, neither will you be able to continue on ending right either. Some use scripture whenever it serves to prove what they have chosen to believe. But then reject or ignore others whenever it doesn't, but instead is contradictory to what they have chosen to believe. Instead of finding out why some do contradict others dealing with the same subjects. Love in Christ, Sandy