year2027

Hi Mark

That did bless me thanks

And about trinity in some Churches I like to visit other Churches but I never bring up trinity when I visit

I just try to love them were they are and I never had to deal with it

Most of them are not ready to think about it one way or another

But If ever I Am ask I would tell them what I believe and tell them to believe what they want but by the time

I would be like a brother to them and they would be like a brother or sister to me

Now I am not saying go to a Church just trying to share with you how I deal with Churches

I believe the Way push their doctrines but I believe its better to love people into change

Hi Dmiller

I not done a study on it One way or another but I see us as the jury

But this post was not writen to make you or me a judge but to get people to think

Some have prejudge him as evil and some have mark him by his fruis

But I have mark him by his way of life by fruits but he is dead and I have move on

This was a place to share feeling

with love Roy

Hi Goey

Yes this was just for fun but with hopes some would see they need to forget a dead man and move on

Now forgetting to a point that he is in their past but mark the feeling so you can help others forget this dead man and put him in their past

Now just for fun in a court room I bet there will be witneses for VPW and wittnesses against because nothing will be hide

But that just me having fun

Hi All

What if VPW not save and you get to judge him?

At the day of judgment what will your judgment be for VPW if he not saved.

Hi All

If you met VPW in the air what will you say to him?

Yes what will you say he will all ready know everything he did wrong to us

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Hi All

What are the most evil shows on TV?

Sometimes I think news but they also give good news and at times I think maybe shows that teach a lie as good.

But I just do not know So for fun I have ask you

Hi All

This is a good place and this is a bad place but can anyone show me a place on earth were its all good or all bad

It you do not like some thing in a place love it into change Just telling others a place is bad is not right

Now all places are not for all people and not all places are best for all people

But if we all give the other person room to change they might change or we might change

You see the evil Way broke our hearts, walk on us, took our money, and made fools of us

But we are trying to help others not have to be hurt in the same way we were

Now I believe what comes around goes around and their is coming

And yes my heart has been broke here but that part of having love ones look at me and Oakspear, Zix, and Lindyhopper we get it hot at times but never any hate

We just look at things from other eyes

No one is the same and we all get mad from time to time but we all three forgive and move on

And that is what its about here Learning to move on with our life and mark the Way has dead

Because VPW told me the Way was dead in 1980 but I was not listen and I stay to long

I bet your saying he never said that but think he said if you point one finger at someone or something you point four back at you

So every time he call others Churches dead he was telling us the Way was dead and the leadership was full of darkness

So give people a change and while you giving them a change give one to yourself

PS I hope Oakspear, Zix, and Lindyhopper understand I was just using them as a way to get a point across

Hi All

If I had five minutes I first tell them God bless you and hi and just try to get to known them

If they ask about the Way I tell them That to me the Way was dead but ask what you want and I do my best to answer each question they had with love and understanding

But when the five minutes was about over I say bye and God loves you

Hi All

Be careful what you post here. It will show up in court!

I have no fears of Court but I have seen nothing in the Way that I see of value to help others

Besides how they Mark and avoided me for standing on the word of God against their lies

Now if I do bring one of them up let them take me to court because I would call all you for wittneses of how they mark and avoide all of us

Now as for trying to put something in here to destroy another one's life no

And that is the reason I believe Kit wrote this post for

You see even LCM needs room to change and if we give out his address or another Way members they might feel in danger from us

Now I do not see him changeing but I give him the room to change

Now if you want to give out address Set up your own Web page were your believing and lawers watch over it

For this is run by Pawtucket not me or you

Now if I do not like Pawtucket rules to kill a post or let it alone I go to him in private about it

For to post here is a blessing not a right because all rights you have here are the ones Pawtucket gives not what you or me want

Hi All

It been said in here that there is no power in saying Jesus Chirst

Yes just saying words has no power but the power is in the spirit

So to speake Jesus Christ by the five senses has no power but to speake Jesus Christ name in the spirit has great power

How is power in the spirit by one of the holy spirit gifts or any nine of the gifts or all

Most speake it with faith

Now if one speaks the name to kill one they are miss using the spirit because there is no spirit power in hate that comes from God

And one can not miss use the spirit

so he or she is speaking by five senses only when one trys to miss use the spirit by adding hate and too kill is to hate

Use the name to control order with the gifts of the spirit because if one does not want order they will be fighting God and God will fight for you

Hi All

It makes me sick to think how a fool I was to listen to men like LCM for one second

For any one to think because a child is got a real high iq or called a child prodity that child is possesed by devils

We know them by their fuits not by their knowledge has we all now know

If they only knew our brains were meant to be that smart but some lies and time weaking them and things I do not understand change things

You see we all should have iq's like Mozart had

But I'll brains can be heal and we have also the brain of Christ in us to use as needed

There a movie "Little Man Tate" about smart kids and their heart was to help

Now can a smart person be possesed or have devils upon him Yes but so can a person that is not smart

What fools we were to listen to LCM or VPW in their years of power because I tell you they have or had devil problems

Did not VPW say point one finger at someone elst point four at yourself

than VPW and LLM had four fingers pointing at them alot

I guess that all I know to say

Hi Oak Spear and White Dove

The one I was think was two as one book the name I was thinking about was "Living Victoriously" but the real book I read was "The Passing of the Patriarch"

And I got a bad feeling about him from reading this book. I ask myself after recalling this man is one that could be using believers like the Way has done and is

Now I wrote him a lettler my mail to ask him what is he doing these days

And I may still have the wrong book but I do know that it was pass from believer to believer and it had a page with many leadership sign after VPW had die

But I only read it in 1991 or so but I believe it begin to be pass along in 1987 or so

To leadership first and then others

Now I never wanted the book because its not for me because it gave me bad recalls and post here help me put it in the past

You see its just a book and I still hope C. Geer has change but do any of you have up date knowledge of this man

What is he doing for God

Is he helping God's children or hurting them

Does he have a Web page

does he have a Email address

I have a mail address for him but I will not give it unless you Email me for it

Hi Marked and Avoided

I will pray for both you and her but since you ask I will pray for her first

Hi Lindy Hopper

I just like to know is there is a Way believer out on a man hurt for me With a picture of me maybe they have rocks from HQ to stone me to death

Just joking but I hope we did not have any like that

Hi All

I added this update here to help not hurt this post because post may of not been best

And me say I was bless with the input I receive up to this date

Here it is

Hi and God bless your hearts Here I am written to you about C. Geer I first wrote about by my five senses past history of reading a book he wrote

But now I ask God I should of wrote and what I did wrong asking about the book was wrong because the man may have change and I need to give room to him to change if he has not yet

What I could of ask what do you know about this man and has his life change since he left the Way but I should of told you I once read a book by him and I saw him say I did as if nothing got done without him

Now I believe that every thing good is done by the help of God and the bad things would not be done if God had not love us enough to give us free will

For is us that deside whether to do things good or bad or whether to teach or share by five senses or by spiritual senses Now what I did was by the five senses and its was wrong I first should of found out what is acts were today

Or I could of said I knew a man that was giving himself all the credit when it took others and he got puff up doing that but I call him by name

Now I call VPW by name but his time is past to change and I also call LCM by name but he still part of the Way has last I heard but what do you think should I give room to change

Now if I found out that Geer is using by brothers and sisters in any wrong I will call him by name write him a note telling him to change but until I know for sure I will leave it here

I wrote this with love and a heart to put things right that I may of put wrong Now I will do a search for his Web site if he has one and write him asking him what is doing for God today and we will see because I will share any or no answer with you all

For others may have done this already but I need to do it because I need to know whether to point him out to watch or love

For I heard bad about him and I need to know which are right for my heart to close this matter

Hi Zshot

Thanks and no I do not want the book or any thing out of it He was brought up on another post and I just got thinking about that book

I just got thinking on how that book got my mind feel like he was buff up

I hear his name brought up and in not good ways from time to time and I just needed to get everything out in the open of how I last feel about him from reading that book

But I hope he has change and where his goals are to help not get rich from believers

There are very few leaders who left the Way that I have feel that there hearts were not best but I not sure why I feel that way toward C. Greer but I hope he has change

Or if the feeling are even right I guess all I want to know is he change or is he still think like he used too

Or did I read him wrong you see I heard alot but I never know the man one on one

I not sure what to think

Hi Lightside

I not looking for anything his name came up and I recalled the book that was put out after death of VPW with nick name passing of the patriarch were are main leadership sign the book

But I now see not reason to think on it must

I guess one thing makes to think of another

But just one question have you heard from TB lately because I do think about friends alot and I pray for him from time to time

Hi All

Did you ever read that book Chris Geer wrote? You know the call "living in something"

I sure someone knows the right name

Its was the one most leadership sign

But lets get to the book

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it said C. Geer done this

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and I had to do this myself

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and I had to do this too

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I did that also

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Now these are not a perfect quotes but when I read the book I got the feeling he believe that he made the Way of England by his self and with out him it would fall

He was puff up like the magic dragon in puff the magic dragon

Some said he was a Prophet but I say not

But I hope he has change and learn better but I believe until he does believer need to understand why to watch him

So tell me has he change any

And how should we teach others about him and what

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Hi All

I added this update here to help not hurt this post because post may of not been best

And me say I was bless with the input I receive up to this date

Here it is

Hi and God bless your hearts Here I am written to you about C. Geer I first wrote about by my five senses past history of reading a book he wrote

But now I ask God I should of wrote and what I did wrong asking about the book was wrong because the man may have change and I need to give room to him to change if he has not yet

What I could of ask what do you know about this man and has his life change since he left the Way but I should of told you I once read a book by him and I saw him say I did as if nothing got done without him

Now I believe that every thing good is done by the help of God and the bad things would not be done if God had not love us enough to give us free will

For is us that deside whether to do things good or bad or whether to teach or share by five senses or by spiritual senses Now what I did was by the five senses and its was wrong I first should of found out what is acts were today

Or I could of said I knew a man that was giving himself all the credit when it took others and he got puff up doing that but I call him by name

Now I call VPW by name but his time is past to change and I also call LCM by name but he still part of the Way has last I heard but what do you think should I give room to change

Now if I found out that Geer is using by brothers and sisters in any wrong I will call him by name write him a note telling him to change but until I know for sure I will leave it here

I wrote this with love and a heart to put things right that I may of put wrong Now I will do a search for his Web site if he has one and write him asking him what is doing for God today and we will see because I will share any or no answer with you all

For others may have done this already but I need to do it because I need to know whether to point him out to watch or love

For I heard bad about him and I need to know which are right for my heart to close this matter

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Hi all

I pray for every need here in the name of Jesus Christ

with love Roy Perry

Hi Just Thinking and Early2it

I do believe that things like this should be free For if they was teaching everything right and living God love the money would be there

Now I have went to Churches that had free meals for the guess and the people of the Church I went to things where the Full Gospel Man Fellowship were they set up get togethers like the Way is talking about here

Now this is a add on to your Church so they do not get alot of ABS because they say to you give to your Church first and only give to them if you have extra

Now I went to a three day teaching and sharing with them and it cost me only $75.00 for the room and the meals And that was the cost only

But if they had ABS like the Way or a Church they would pay it for you because there heart is to get the word out

You see the Way heart is to make money Now if one plans like this and there not enought ABS to cover it

It is because one of these reasons

1. The leadership is using your money wrong

2. There is no need to have a event like this

3. The people of your group do not want it because ABS is a stewardship of where your group wants God to take them

And I sure there is more but I ask you if you give to a Church what is the money for anyway

Most teach the tithe which is dead but I ask you is you have a Church of 2,000 people and each give 10% of their money and they all get $300.00 a week and they give $30.00 week that is $60,000.00 a week and $240,000.00

Do the math were is the Way using that money

Look at the Rock by cost

1. $25.00 ticket

A. to go on they own

B. they use free labor to set it up

C. they use free labor to clean up after

2. All food you eat cost you money

A. they use free labor to cook and sale it

B. they use free labor to clean up and all others parts

The list could go on So I ask what does ABS buy you

Hi Insurgent

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how is my abundant sharing paying for this?

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Your abundant sharing is paying for the lead leadership Steaks three times a day and top of the line

But for $125.00 they will give Chickin and rice two times a day and one hard boild egg for the third meal

But you know they will want you to bring at least $200.00 for abundant sharing while your there And they will tell that is what you owe out of the money it cost to come

I bet they they even need your money or at least want it

If they was loving you would stay free and the food would be free but watch out because they may charge you rent for the chair at the teaching

The Way is not a loving place they are out for money and that is all

That is my view of them I hope I did not step on your toes and I hope the best for you

I am having fun are you

Hi All

I Love God by spending time with him one on one

We talk every day I write him love notes

I put God first when ever I can find a way no matter what others think

Like putting God first on post, Emails, and anything elst I might write or type on

But I guess the way I do most is one on one talks

I ask God how he is doing and I do my best to live by his word

Happy Birthday Mark And Avoided

Hi Rosie 72

Wecome and nice story

PS When we get to heaven I like to met your loving friend

Hi Lightside

I look forward to seeing it

Thanks

Hi Krysilis

Thanks

That blessed my heart

Hi Dot Matrix

I am praying for you and your family