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  1. "Geer does his “Word Promotions” franchises out of Maine, Quillen runs his offshoot out of CFFM in Illinois, and Agent MacMullan helps run SOWERS on his family’s MS farm with V2P2, victor paul wierwille II, JP’s kid." Why do I seem to recall that term *spiritual hitchhikers*.......? Could easily been rephrased as "splinter groups"...... Now, it is AGAIN clear.........why wierwille used this preemptive strike in pfal: Wierwille's ministry work was a splinter of B.G. Leonard's work. Like other preemptive strikes in pfal, wierwille injects this "spiritual hitchhiker" into his class. But rather than address (expose) the full essence of it, wierwille directs its meaning to the new (novice) students who would, in turn, hitchhike off this newfound knowledge. In other words.....projection. Wierwille was projecting onto others what he himself HAD DONE. The Way, Inc was a splinter group.....
  2. Former Corps Coordinators........have joined this splinter masquerade. When wierwille's motor coach parked behind Wierwille Library at Emporia, KS......who facilitated the procuring of corps girls? When martindale visited Camp Gunnison......who did the pimping for him at Cabin 12? Why is it......that ruffians, thugs, goons, spooks and pimps are considered Christian leaders in these new splinter groups? Perhaps......the pfal-doctrine is what masks all of this from view?
  3. Everyday is Halloween in Wierwille's Wayworld...........where ruffians, thugs, pimps and spiritual secret agents masquerade as Christian ministers. How is this not discernable? Behind their masks, the goons appear to be gentle and caring.......not the ruffians and thugs of wierwille's regime. The spooks no longer carry two-way radios to follow direct orders from the authoritarian trustees. Nor do the spooks conceal a 9mm handgun or practice evasive driving skills or train/handle guard dogs. Today, these men are removed from their "former" life at twi........or are they? Geer, Quillen and MacMullan oversee splinter work.
  4. Right before our very eyes......we see the Revival and Restoration Group Phasing in a Splinter. They have those weekly "teachings" that are put on their website........claiming a pseudo-mantle of teaching the word. Now......they are in the process of promoting a camp get-together next June. Then.....they will establish hierarchy in the group and push for a central location. Voila......phasing in a splinter in 3 easy steps.
  5. Yes, Rocky.........personified narcissism. But also.....I would add wantonness to describe this as well. For those who adhere to Christian theology and doctrine...... II Peter 2:18,19 gives a succinct glimpse of wierwille's spiritual state at that time. II Peter 2:18 For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error. II Peter 2:19 While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage. To the Very End.......Wierwille's Wantonness ........ great swelling words of vanity they allure lusts of the flesh they promise others liberty they themselves are the servants of corruption this corruption overcomes others others, are then, brought in to bondage Succinct and poignant. .
  6. Outie......I know. Teaching this wierwille-legacy to the corps was adding leaven to the wierwille doctrine, right? I suppose there are many ways to explain this.......but I see it as cunning craftiness and sleight of men. In other words, this wierwille legacy stuff was IN DIRECT CONFLICT with what true ministers in the church should be teaching and advancing. Namely, true apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors or teachers DO NOT advance or carry doctrine that disrupts the unity of the faith, the knowledge of the Son of God. [Ephesians 4:11-14] And further.....corps coordinators like Moynihans, Forts, and Horneys were complicit in these "winds of doctrine." The corps training.....which I often refer to as corps indoctrination.....had a "green thread" of *wierwille allegiance* running thru this training/tapestry. As best I can tell, it picked up steam after Harry died in the Fall of 1977 and wierwille's days were counting down. His narcissistic visions of self and legacy were of utmost importance.......and thus, the corps coordinators were given their marching orders as well. Then with wierwille's failing health.....it's time to designate a successor to the throne (cough, cough) and herald the October 1982 date as the 40th Anniversary (cough, cough) of his presidency and reign, and step down. The corps program was indoctrinating followers towards unbridled adulation for victor paul wierwille. The corps coordinators were cheerleaders of this counterfeit message. TODAY.......lots of these guys run splinter groups. The subtle messaging is STILL THERE. The Wierwille Mystique is still there..........hiding in plain sight. Thus......many splinters are following an Anti-Christ message.
  7. Perhaps, when this Revival and Restoration Group of corps and followers get together next June......they will study wierwille's old corps notes, pontifications and "prophecies" that he made over the years. Since wierwille was their Patriarch.......his life and legacy is worth studying, right? Blood Lines Matter .........Many of us heard the great swelling words of wierwille's ancestry, heritage and legacy during those campfire settings. That's when, many times, the full-throated bravado came forth. Wouldn't it be good to review this wierwille heritage during this Georgia outing? Detail the bloodline and how God is working thru the ages to bring about his deliverance via the wierwille bloodline and wierwille ministry, right? Johann Heinrich Wierwille (1792-1889) Herman Heinrich Adolph Wierwille (1828-1887) Henry Ernst Wierwille (1875-1956) Victor Paul Wierwille (1916-1985) Donald Ernst Wierwille (1940-2000) .....[passed over for LCM-ministry & leadership] .....Loy Craig Martindale (1948- ) .....[given mantle.....but ousted from twi] .....Luke Summerv!ille ............................[false prophecy, never twi's 3rd president] .....Rosalie Fox Shumate Rivenbark ..... [took over as twi's 3rd president] ...........where did all the wierwilles go? ............why did the legacy fall flat? Many of us sat for HOURS AND HOURS listening to victor paul wierwille ramble on about the wierwille legacy. Dotsie writes a book and fluffs up the first paragraph with bloviating wierwille ancestry. All of it went SPLAT. Will the Real Victor Paul Wierwille please stand up.....er, come clean. Will the former corps coordinators please explain their complicity in this fraud? Next June would be a good time to come clean.......with Georgia on my mind.
  8. Remember........wierwille used Summer Camps to groom his followers BEFORE the corps program. Just saying......
  9. Gee........lookie here. NOW......the R&R group is also planning to have a spend-time-with-us-in-nature's-playground extended weekend in June, 2020. You mean to tell me that these guys have FINALLY come to realize that always demanding butts in chairs NEEDS SOMETHING ELSE? Does this help their agenda.......or, simply mask its intent? ~~~~~~~~~ The Mystery Living and Real: EPHESIANS This Christian gathering is open to anyone who would like to enjoy a time of Biblical study, live music, outdoor activities, and fellowship with one another. The focus of the event is seeing God’s plan for believers as members in particular to be joined together and function fully in the Body of Christ. Stay awhile and take the opportunity to explore the gardens, hike, fish, bike, enjoy water sports, and much more. Special room rates are available June 21-30, 2020 Save the Date June 24-27, 2020 “Therefore, rejecting all falsity and being done now with it, let everyone express the truth with his neighbor, for we are all parts of one body and members one of another.” Ephesians 4:25 (Amplified) Callaway Gardens Callawaygardens.com Pine Mountain, Georgia Housing: Cottages, Lodge, Hotel Rooms, and Suites Airport is: Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Registration Opens: January 1, 2020
  10. Was Wierwille's First-Failed Corps Program.......ie which vpw labeled the "zero corps" [to DEFLECT from his failure]........too heavy-handed [subjugating] on these young participants? I know that twi's damage-control narrative put all the onus on these young corps, but I ain't buying it. I think that wierwille went into this "training" like a charging bull......and these young whippersnappers pushed back on his bullsh!t. And further.......subjugating being the core objective of the corps program, it adds more evidence as to why wierwille got so irritated and irate when corps walked away. He felt entitled to disparage the character and reputation of those who left.......they were "cop-outs." In his narcissistic world, he was "The Teacher" and "his" people were to be subservient to him. And, to this day.........how many splinter cults out there are ingrained with subjugating their followers? Structured with classes that take you from level A to level F (follower)...... even these classes depict what level of subservience you are at.
  11. Thanks Rocky.......lots of great insight. There are plenty of ways to supplement this *very real human need for belonging* .......besides going to classes and parking one's butt in a chair. Look around and partake of the vast avenues of BELONGING to something bigger than self: Community.......volunteer work, charity walks, habitat for humanity, red cross blood drives, committee involvement, parks and recreation, safety, etc Religious...........bible study groups, choirs, programs, youth groups, children's activities, daycare, grieving and group participation, societal issues Self....................golf outings, cards and game nights, book clubs, bowling league, bike club, 10-K runs/walks, get a dog and go to your nearest dog park Academic..........take night classes at community college, attend lectures, go to World War II Museum, study different cultures, learn a new language Hobbies.............find other enthusiasts of your particular interest, bee-keeping, woodworking, bird watching, kayaking, camping You belong........get out there and find your true passions. The world is a BIG and EXCITING SOCIAL EXPLORATION....... Do NOT allow some little cult leader to coerce your butt in a chair...... When peer pressure and coercion is involved.......subjugating is not far behind.
  12. As top-tier corps/clergy (cough, cough) splinter from twi.......soon thereafter, some of wierwille's hard-core men desire to subjugate others with new, ongoing teachings, classes and weekends that you just can't miss [and the wheels on the bus go 'round and 'round]. In the immortal words of The Church Lady from Saturday Night Live................"How Conveeenient." Subjugate --- 1. to bring under control or subjection; conquer 2. to cause to become subservient; subdue Looking back at wierwille's ministry and corps program........I believe that subjugating was the core of the corps program. Wierwille did NOT design a "leadership program." THAT was all a deceptive tactic. Wierwille designed a FOLLOWship program wherein the youth were subjugated to his control.......and corps women were subjugated to his sexual predation!! He sat back and picked his prey. He targeted the innocent and vulnerable into his classes and programs. Isolation. Immersion. Intimidation. Indoctrination. Idolization. Classes can have profit........or........classes can be steppingstones to indoctrination. Already, we see that Rico has a foundational, intermediate and advanced class/course to offer. THEN.......how about a special weekend in Montana? Enjoy some hiking, fishing, kick-back relaxing and all. Is this good? Or, is this to get you to drop your guard.........and start the CULT PROGRAMMING all over again? HOW does this happen AGAIN? HOW does someone throw off the shackles of twi's hypocrisy and absolute power over the individual.......THEN, fall again into a splinter group that runs classes, demands tithing and claim that they are, indeed, the ones to follow? It nearly baffles the mind to see how some are so easily persuaded against their own will and better judgment to repeat the same cycle. Especially those who follow those corps "leaders" who are ADAMANT that wierwille was "the man of God" who walked by revelation. And, most notably.......those who pattern the SAME pyramid organization from afar, the SAME class structure, the SAME clichés and the SAME approach that "humble yourselves and our classes will answer your questions." Screw that !!! I believe that Taxidev had it right when he stated in Splinter Cults are WORSE: Are you someone who prefers to be led? Are you someone who prefers the life of those institutionalized?
  13. That teaching tape is from March 1985.....the last Sunday teaching of victor paul wierwille. He died two months later. Wierwille always took to the podium near March 17th....in honor of his older brother, Harry Ernst Wierwille's birthday. In fact, twi made a tradition of it after H.E. died in the Fall of 1977 when vpw instigated the "Burn the Chaff" [travel light] weekends in 1978 and onward. If I recall correctly......this teaching "The Hope" was sent out as a *tape of the month* and long-standing wayfers treasured it for its significance of being wierwille's "last teaching." And, then....it was doubly significant, because he taught "The Hope" and died two months later. So, JJ.........you have in your possession one of the most special, treasured, spiritually-significant, super-duper tapes OF ALL TIME.
  14. Amen.......[on the bold-faced statement above]/ You know........I rarely have agreed with TLC on much, but on THIS.......I AGREE. If twi had stuck to scripture.......ie. "the simplicity that is in Christ.........it would not be circling the drain today!!!
  15. Standing UP.......and Speaking OUT against one's former cult is challenging. Especially, against the deep pockets and zealous fanatics in Scientology. With paid harassers, spies, lies, and private i's........the scientology goons go to your place of employment, harass neighbors and community, spread lies on the internet, doing anything and everything to provoke a response that they can then videotape and smear your reputation and drown your livelihood. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Leah Remini's Final Episode of "Scientology and the Aftermath" Even this New York Post article headlines this story from the Scientology Cult's point of view (smears, character assassination) "..........the final episode of “Scientology and the Aftermath” will air on Aug. 26, at Remini’s behest — it was not canceled. The former Scientologist-turned-anti-Scientology activist has used the Emmy-winning series, which premiered in 2016, to examine the organization’s practices." "..........Remini said thanks in part to the church’s retaliation, doing the show is “emotionally draining."
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