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  1. EXACTLY !! What could twi possibly build upon? Everywhere you look.....twi is a hollow shell. Wierwille's pfal class was STOLEN from Rev. B.G. Leonard. WOW Ambassador program has been cancelled/replaced by watered-down commitments. Way Corps Training is and ALWAYS WAS indoctrinating youth. Corps campuses have all gone belly-up.....exploiting corps labor and ponzi money. Directors are putting out cheesy ads to "please come work at hq." LOL Way Mag has a generic/composite display of unreal people in twi. Long gone are the business, professionals and celebrity-types of the late '70s. Having stockpiled and invested monies from late 70s/ early 80s.....twi is a mirage. Top "elites" at hq feast from the tables of the fleeced. Surrounded by sand......there is NOTHING TO BUILD UPON. ps. Thanks guys for your kind words. It has been one heck of a journey.....having exited 24-years ago and researched the cult's revisionist history......ie the wierwille deception, rot and corruption that deceived many of us for years. So thankful....in God's mercy and grace.....to escape the trappings and climb other summits. .
  2. ### There are reasons why TWI was not as formidable in 2017......as they thought they were. 1. Years of dissenting voices had been percolating below the surface. By August 2016, they sent the Board of Directors a letter of concerns and grievances. This dissenting group viewed this as an Acts 15 attempt to confront "the church elders" and resolve this growing divide. According to reports, the directors would not meet with them as a group......but offered to meet separately with couples, attempting to divide and conquer the group. 2. Thus, this dissenting group of corps marshaled greater numbers to their side. The chasm had widened. These corps want Rosalie to resign.....ousted from her position of power over them. So, even though Jean-Yves is "installed" as president.....Rosalie RETAINS her position of power as vice-president. The corps instantly recognize this as a ruse. Jean-Yves is nothing but a figurehead. Rosalie holds the power. By March 2017........letter to directors signed by 60 corps (and implying dozens more agree). 3. In this confrontation, the directors are dealing with major players. Four couples have been corps coordinators......overseeing campuses and several hundreds of corps thru the years. Plus, they'd gone on to oversee regions, limbs and branches. Other major players had been hq-staffers for decades......in security, investment, legal, international outreach, etc. No longer were these corps 30 year olds.........they are NOW 60-70 year olds and pi$$ed at the system of corruption. 4. Add in the factor of social media. How much communication and organization was done via phone/texting one another? How many years have these corps been visiting GreaseSpot Cafe's site and read the thousands and thousands of threads here? Open forums, open discussion....allows light to expose the deceptive tactics and leadership that has lulled twi-followers into blind allegiance. Yet, they are nothing more than BLIND GUIDES. [Matthew 23] 5. Rosalie kept pushing and pushing these corps to do more. Yet, many of them simply wanted the respect and public thanks from the directors for their decades of service .....and then, retire graciously. The cult could not and would not allow this. 6. There's a saying....."Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned." Well, what about these corps who had been scorned? Did the directors think that they could dispose and trash their reputations like twi did to others decades ago? Hello??? The internet is here. Social media is here. NO LONGER CAN THE DIRECTORS SILENCE THEIR CRITICS. 7. In business, it is said that one displeased customer will go on and tell his experience to 12 others. That's 12 other people who have heard and are now influenced by a rotten business or an overpriced service. Bad publicity travels around the city faster than you can imagine. What did the directors think would happen? Are they SO CLUELESS that they think bad business goes unspoken? 8. Imagine......40+ years in twi-service and now THIS? You don't think that is going to cut deeply? 9. So, yeah......the directors have sowed the wind and shall reap the whirlwind. No surprise. These corps are going to keep telling others......friends, co-workers, kids, grand kids, etc. How many will stop tithing/absing to twi altogether? How many will start going to another splinter group? How many will finally recognize this whole ruse as a cult experience? 10. Will twi every learn? This is no longer the 1970s when wierwille was able to rule with dominant power over others. Today, the internet and social media has changed everything. This latest toll has INDEED been a significant blow to twi. ### Until the board of directors address their sins and REPENT..... twi will continue its downward spiral. There is no way that a regurgitated class is going to be a dominant force in twi's rebuilding. If that's the only sleight-of-hand trick that they've got.....then twi will fade into obscurity. .
  3. BUMP...... Has Vern been able to undo the heavy burdens and hardships imposed on twi-followers? Is that $68 Million being used for non-profit purposes now?
  4. "This downward, corkscrew-motion of twi's "ministry" was inevitable.....inescapable. Why? Because God is not mocked....and the truth, and fruit of one's life, eventually comes forth." The putrid fruit of lust, pride, strife, division, envy, adultery and wrath came forth season after season.....having been seeded in martindale, geer, rosalie and donna. Long after wierwille took his dirt nap, the envy and strife of the dueling banjos.....er, bandits kept these thuggery tactics in place towards the wayfarers on separate continents. Adding another 12-15 years to the burdens, hardships, anguish and turmoil of those who'd been indoctrinated to "follow wierwille's salted and oiled leaders." Egads! So, where was this exalted "spiritual perception and awareness" that was deemed so highly prized in advanced class teachings and corps training? What had wierwille spawned??? The scriptures give us fair warning to beware of false teachers and blind guides. Matthew 23......Pharisees, hypocrites, blind guides, two-fold more the child of hell than pharisee-wierwille, fools, those who cleanse outward appearances but rotten and evil inward, whited sepulchres, a house left desolate, etc. Guess wierwille's little pep phrases and cliches didn't carry much muster compared to Jesus' warnings. Under Rosalie's and Donna's rule, The Way International is now "a house in desolation." No amount of fresh painting with Power for Abundant Living Today is going to keep the decrepit foundation, floor joists, walls and roof from caving in upon them. When even the lowly, indoctrinated, newly-graduated corps get a taste of "headquarters" and want to bolt.....you know you've got a BIG PROBLEM. It has been well-documented here at Greasespot, that Rosalie would get printouts of our threads these past 20 years. So, imagine how staunch and prideful she and donna must be to NOT heed our open-forum discussions of wrong doings in wierwille's twi and now, theirs. Will this new, shiny class do the trick for them and turn things around? I seriously doubt it......but we shall see, won't we?
  5. This downward, corkscrew-motion of twi's "ministry" was inevitable.....inescapable. Why? Because God is not mocked....and the truth, and fruit of one's life, eventually comes forth. For indeed, wierwille was a "wolf in sheep's clothing" who cloaked himself with a persona and position that violated the very essence of Christian norms and the "Office of a Bishop." He was every bit the man that the Scriptures describes of Simon in Acts 8:9-11. The people had been deceived, for a season, and thought of Simon(wierwille) as -- "this man is the great power of God." The fruit of twi's abusive, coercive actions have come home to roost. The way corps has been abandoning this "twi-servitude" since 1977......wave upon wave, realizing how they were NOT bound to give allegiance to a pseudo-Christian (cult) outfit that cherry-picks selective verses while skewering others. Nor, year after year, ignore the revisionist history of wierwille's past and proclamations of "greatness".....when his drunkenness, plagiarist, and contentious striving was divisive and demeaning to the body of believers. And, martindale only added an exclamation point to it all. For most of twi-followers.....wierwille was seen thru the window of time 1972-1982. Throughout that short span, vpw's stage demeanor, voice inflection and plagiarized teachings were spotlighted. Way Publications and The Way Magazine amplified his teachings and air-brushed him with a patriarchal image. Valets, body guards, and the "Safety Department" safeguarded his sexual predation and lock-boxed his secrets. Enablers of old were given fiefdoms and elevated stature to keep the wierwille/man-of-gawd mystique burning brightly. Wierwille's "works of the flesh" were manifested in lust, pride, strife, division, drunkenness, adultery, wrath and more. Yet, the inner circle of the "ministry" (cough, cough)....rode the gravy train into retirement as the money poured in. Ten years of exponential abundance in twi......stripped from the true ministries of Jimmy Doop and Steve Heefner. Even Mrs. Wierwille's book, Born Again to Serve, could NOT mask the deception and theft of B.G. Leonard's stolen class while endeavoring to explain in detail how wierwille broke from the denominational church system and rose to prominence. Had wierwille come clean with his past sins.....and then, been able to walk with the power of God....some redemptive qualifiers might be in order. BUT....wierwille could not and did not walk by the spirit of God, nor operate the nine manifestations that he took excruciating pains to define in his advanced classes. No wonder, his advanced classes introduced all kinds of tangents and diversions to keep us from learning what was standing before us In Plain Sight.....wierwille was a false teacher.
  6. Martindale and his lifetime pension Quote from DWBH: The perjury raps alone would pull down what's left of their walls of Zion and prevailing woid. They have lied on and off the public record for so long the only thing they can do is STFU and hope the money lasts long enough to dump it on their most loyal gestapo and whatever family they haven't mark and avoided yet. You WILL NEVER GET THE TRUTH from twi. Rosie, Donna, Coward and Wanda Wierwille Allen, and da forehead himself, all wanna make it to their Gunnison Emeritus retirement home. Coward and Wanda have been there how long now? Da Forehead's name is still on the deed. He still gets his tax-free $65K pension too. How many of those salt'o'the earth, volunteer twig coordinators gave 15% of their gross income for 20 years. .
  7. Wierwille was an opportunist. The six stages of wierwille's escalation to power
  8. The TWI Death Spiral Was Inevitable This downward, corkscrew-motion of twi's "ministry" was inevitable.....inescapable. Why? Because God is not mocked.....and the truth, and fruit of one's life, eventually comes forth. For indeed, wierwille was a "wolf in sheep's clothing" who cloaked himself with a persona and position that violated the very essence of Christian norms and the "Office of a Bishop." He was every bit the man that the Scriptures describes of Simon in Acts 8:9-11. The people had been deceived, for a season, and thought of Simon(wierwille) as -- "this man is the great power of God." The fruit of twi's abusive, coercive actions have come home to roost. The way corps has been abandoning this "twi-servitude" since 1977......wave upon wave, realizing how they were NOT bound to give allegiance to a pseudo-Christian (cult) outfit that cherry-picks selective verses while skewering others. Nor, year after year, ignore the revisionist history of wierwille's past and proclamations of "greatness".....when his drunkenness, plagiarist, and contentious striving was divisive and demeaning to the body of believers. And, martindale only added an exclamation point to it all. Although this downward death spiral, this trajectory, has been happening for nearly four decades, it wasn't until the internet presence of Waydale (Paul Allen's website -- starting up in April 1999) that exposed the deception, manipulation, and exploitation elements at twi's highest levels for all to see. · Waydale gave a voice for victims to speak out. · Authoritarian rule was the intimidating heavy hand that smacked relentlessly. · Malignant narcissism was at the core of victor wierwille's drive for power. · Hidden in "leadership-language" -- the corps were to be brown-shirt followers. · Subjugation....to subdue the youth into a subservient body of worker-bees for twi. · Behind the doors of the corps indoctrination program were sexual predators. · Trustees, wives, corps coordinators, and others were enablers of these secrets. · Hiding behind Scriptures....was the subtle power of spiritual abuse in twi. This last exodus of corps and others, the Revival and Restore Group (2016/2017) were the last of any "stronghold" that twi had on the infamous CORPSE PROGRAM.....LOL. So, how does the board of directors respond to this??? More entrenched cover-their-a$$es. And, put Donna Lombardi Martindale in the SEAT OF POWER AND CONTROL as CEO.....Chief Effing Officer, er.....Executive Officer. hahahaha Divorced and damaged by her husband from two out-of-court settlements regarding sexual abuse and predatory claims, Rosalie was able to slow-walk and incrementally move Donna up the ladder during a 20-year shell game. I swear, this is SO OBVIOUS......and these people claim to be deeply-vested into research, r-e-s-e-a-r-c-h. OMG So, the activity on the field becomes dismal and the abundant sharing starts to dry up. They push and push for the "remaining remnant" of corps (55-70 year olds) to hit the streets and WITNESS, WITNESS, WITNESS. Yeah, like that's gonna work. LOL. Notice how the board of directionless idiots never look in the mirror to see what is causing the problems!?!?! The authoritarians love this adulation and access to power over others. How do they attempt to fix these problems? Obfuscation. They direct their resources to muddy the waters and obscure THE EXODUS OF CORPS......to bring in young neophytes (new kind of life/energy) to teach/regurgitate wierwille's plagiarist class from Leonard, Power for Abundant Living Today. Ugh. For all their boasting of power.....wierwille and his yes-men walked in craftiness and handled the word of God deceitfully [II Corinthians 4:2]. What a clown show. With today's internet......hopefully, most people will be able to sniff out this deception and exit stage left. In the end, there is very little room at the top of the pyramid. · Craig Martindale gets a $65,000 yearly pension. · Does Rosalie Fox Rivenbark Shumate get a $65,000 yearly pension? · How about Howard Allen? And Wanda? $130,000 total each year? · And, Donna is in line for this $65,000 yearly pension as well. · How many OTHERS??? · Do the field corps get access to any of these pensions??? · Or.....is THAT why the field corps are finally awakened to the con? Wait till the young bucks figure out the scam. Wait till they figure out that they are being fleeced of time, money and labor that goes into the pockets of the authoritarian cult leaders. Then, they too will be bolting towards the exit doors. Twi has always been a series of revolving doors and preying on the youth. When the way corps youth could NO LONGER BE EXPLOITED for rock of ages labor......the Rock of Ages STOPPED. The Twi-Pharisees loved the annual pilgrimage to fill their coffers. Me? I got tired of the herd-fests and hypocrisy. .
  9. Authoritarian Rule 101: Rigid Conformity The corps indoctrination process had NOTHING to do with the classes. The indoctrination was done thru its methods.... Authority leader is always right. Even if he is wrong.....you are to obey. God (cough, cough) will honor your obedience. Groupthink (renewed mind) is spiritual unity.....in the cult. Stewardship of things is more highly prized than ownership ( that's right ). Ownership is burdensome. Get rid of stuff. Live at peace in the commune. Give your life, resources, skills, overtime hours, weekends.....to twi. Independent thinking, finances, friends, family ties.....is a no-no. Trust their research. Wierwille will teach you....It Is Written. Twi will be there for you as you grow old. Trust them. Behind the scenes, there have always been the purges. Whether it was a girl speaking out about sexual predation, then poof.....she was bum's rushed to Dayton and put on a bus. What about asking pesky questions about some of wierwille's research? Not allowed. Purged, sent packing. What if you don't feel the need to take the NEW foundational class? Then.....you are purged from the rolls of being a grad of the foundational class. It's a closed society and they make the rules. Play by their rules.....or leave. Notice how twi generates another foundational class every 10 years. Like a vacuum cleaning company.....they are out to suck you dry.
  10. Yes.....and the habitual practice of *doing as your leader does* LEADS to the next mog who steps up to the plate to FOLLOW THE SAME PLAYBOOK AND EXCORIATE THE MAJORITY. Martindale was two-fold the child of evil (that wierwille groomed). Twi has bad policy, because twi was/is a cult. But really.....imo, wierwille was a malignant narcissist. He had a mix of antisocial, paranoid and sadistic personality disorder traits and used projection as a defensive mechanism. He stole Leonard's class, but didn't believe its contents. He didn't wholly believe in the God-given nine manifestations.....thus, he faked his speaking in tongues in ridiculous repetitiveness!! The ministry that wierwille "built".....was a sandcastle. LOL The indoctrination (ideology) runs SO DEEP......that many corps grads have never been able to connect the dots of how they were deceived. Nor did some care to ever learn (the deception). They were comfortable in their submissive state. Institutionalization does that.......to people. Sigh.
  11. Wierwille's corps indoctrination program was run by those wielding an authoritarian sledgehammer. Whether it was lunchtime announcements, corps night meetings, fire alarm episodes, etc.......an angry and frustrated corps coordinator would step up to the microphone and lecture the group on the FAILURES of one individual. Perhaps, he/she didn't meet the requirement for getting out of bed at 3am when the fire alarm sounded and briskly put on his bathrobe and exit his dormitory and meet in designated area as instructed. Maybe.....she didn't want to go to corps night because she had her monthly period and wasn't feeling well. Or, just maybe....sweeping the circle driveway was too insane and mundane for this guy to stomach the ridiculousness of it all. ANYWAYS......did we ALL have to hear about it? Did we have to sit and listen to a 20-minute lecture on obedience, because of one person......again? Where in the Scriptures does it say that we are to indulge in everyone else's dirty laundry? Isn't this *confrontation* supposed to be done by one or two witnesses? Why does this seem like ruling with a heavy hand? Is this simply a bullying tactic? The corps program WAS indoctrination. Seems like some corps grads have gone to their graves *obeying* the policies of "the man of Gawd." Maybe that stuff works on the youth camps......but it doesn't (shouldn't) work with thinking, responsible adults. And.....then there were those CHILDREN'S SONGS. Ugh. Another deceptive, authoritarian tactic of control. Stand up. Sit down. Clap your hands. Head, shoulders, knees and toes. I've got peace like a river.....with hand motions. And, please let's all listen, remember and obey. So, those of you 65-75 year olds.......did twi let you grow up into an adult? Where do you go to get your last 45 years back? If you're thankful and you know it.....clap your hands. Now that you are still renting and twi wants you to take their NEW foundational class.....was it worth it?
  12. In a galaxy far, far away.....some 50-55 years ago, there were pockets of true Christian revival. Young, born-again believers were zealous for the Lord and walking in His power. Walking the talk....and talking the walk. They gathered in parks, apartments, college campuses, commune-homes, etc......seeing the power of the Living Word, Christ, in their lives. These young ministers were Ambassadors for Christ....in its truest sense. They were real, open vessels serving the people. He anointed "the class".......NOT Today's twi......is a heavy-handed bureaucratic, centralized Pharisee compound. Pumping out ANOTHER class......as they sit on the butts in Ohio. They seem to think that slick-marketing class material and cliches will entice sign-ups. Counterfeit classes cannot and will not substitute for dynamic, holy spirit workings within the Lord's anointed. Twi is lost........heading downstream without a paddle. .
  13. The secrecy of his success is the secrecy of his moves.
  14. Years ago, we delved into this thread, Ash Heap of TWI-story, that documented aspects of wierwille's *India trip experiences.* One of the most notable finds......was that their host in India was Dr. I.S. Williams. He was a prominent church statesman, the president of the All-India Federation of National Churches. Thus, with his position and notoriety....this man was able to open lots of doors, and the Jain Convention, for another American preacher in their country. Irony of ironies......Joan Williams, the daughter of these dear parents who hosted Vic and Dotsie and their family was among one of the first international PFAL students in the Van Wert class in June 16-30, 1957. Then immediately following, July 1-12, wierwille taught the Advanced Class to twenty-three new students, including the three from England, two from India and one from Australia. (p. 214 Mrs. W's book, Born Again to Serve) P. 216 -- "While we were preparing for this major transition in our lives from our lifelong involvement in the denomination to going independent into The Way International, Joan Williams, the daughter of our dear Indian friends, was developing a serious romantic relationship with a young man in her second year at Defiance College. Just before he left to go home for the December holidays, the young man broke off the relationship. Because of her great disappointment and her cultural background, she became very despondent and ended her life. This came as very shocking, very sad news to us on Christmas Eve, 1957. The Williams family were most understanding of the situation but also very grieved. We buried her body in the cemetery in Defiance according to their wishes." The above paragraph is quoted word-for-word from Mrs. Wierwille's book. SO......HERE an advanced class student commits suicide December 24, 1957. And, not just any run-of-the-mill advanced class student, but the daughter of prominent leaders and elders in India. Wierwille's Independent Ministry and Undertaking began December 19, 1957 (p. 219). So, five days after starting their independent work..... an advanced class student commits suicide. As I've said many times.......Mrs. Wierwille's book gives us insight to many things that few have ever heard about twi's background and history. Joan Williams RIP. Sad. Clearly, it does raise some questions about "how significant was this advanced class if it didn't enable a student to overcome fear and/or have power over darkness* etc, etc. .
  15. Young wierwille, age 27...... attended the E. Stanley Jones Ashram in July 1944. At that time, E. Stanley Jones was age 60. There is NO evidence that young vic had any type of a friendship/relationship with this towering teacher, Jones. On page 48 in Mrs. Wierwille's book is a picture of that event. Victor is standing in the back row (looks like church elders and prominent church-goers are in the first 5 or 6 rows).....in an event of 220-250 people. Vic is in the back row, like row 9. LOL And, victor drops this little one-liner...."I considered him (Jones) a wonderful friend." What a load of bull-pookie. Rufus Moseley was also there standing next to E. Stanley Jones in this picture (at this event). Wierwille did invite Moseley to teach at their church in Van Wert and Moseley did just that. Not friendship. Not camaraderie. A teacher (Moseley) helping a young start-up preacher (vic). Simply put...... wierwille lied to us. He bloviated. How many other times did wierwille lie? How are we to believe his India trip experiences? Everything was about self-promotion. What a narcissist! Stealing, lying, boastful, arrogance......I see a pattern here. LOL .
  16. Yes, it was. Paid by the Canadian believers' abundant sharing.....so the *Trustless* guys could get away for some drinking and fishing. Knowing what I know today......it wouldn't surprise me to learn that a couple of young corps girls joined the getaway.
  17. In 1985......when I was the Country Coordinator for Canada, Howard Allen phoned me and requested $4,000 Canadian cash for their Annual Trustee Meetings at Lake of the Woods (remote western Ontario). This was when the trustees traveled north to go fishing and whatnot. They pegged it as "a business trip".... but everyone and their dog knew that it was more or less time to fish and drink. Of course, they took a couple of guys (aides, body guards) to run errands, build the campfires and do the meals/clean-up, etc. But.....$4,000 spending money for boat rental, booze and fishing??? .
  18. When wierwille traveled to Calgary, Alberta in 1953......to take Rev. B.G. Leonard's class on "The Gifts of the Spirit" wierwille accomplished two things: He discovered that B.G. was functioning and thriving on a class-based ministry independent from denominational constraints. No church boards, community or public accountability was needed. A class-based ministry was limitless in potential. As founder and ceo, one could bask in the full sunlight of independence, power and control. The class and biblical material gave the teacher command over an attentive audience. The gifts (manifestations) of the spirit was something not taught in denominational churches. B.G. taught and demonstrated this power in manifestation. IMO....with everything that I know today about wierwille and his atrocities (his malignant narcissism, plagiarism, sexual predation, drunkenness, charmer, cruel, striker, vindictive, etc.)..... I believe that wierwille chose B.G.'s class-based ministry because it greased the machinery of wierwille's malignant narcissism. Full stop. I repeat: IT WAS NOT THE CLASS MATERIAL......IT WAS THE CLASS-BASED SYSTEM that *thrilled* wierwille. If true, then that explains a lot. It explains how wierwille NEVER could fluently speak in tongues. Nor, could wierwille operate the nine manifestations of holy spirit. Looking for a shtick and a way to feed his narcissism and pay the bills. Wierwille talked a good game, but was peddling stolen wares. Thus, at PFAL '77 wierwille (age 60) could NOT duplicate the plagiarist past. This would explain why wierwille shied away from public healing services at the Rock of Ages. It explains why after claiming an 8th corps guy was possessed in the BRC, wierwille could NOT cast out a devil spirit(s). It explains why the Trustees were so empty and void of spiritual power......wierwille was a false teacher, a counterfeit. He was a spiritual hitchhiker.....just like he elucidated in pfal (except he was subconsciously pointed the finger back at himself). Wierwille wanted the class-based system, because it freed him from the Van Wert church. Was his narcissistic personality disorder driving his decisions? Was wierwille looking for an opportunity to be "the big man in town" where he no longer had to report to the church board and community officials? Was the class-based ministry a way of hiding from public view......just like young boy vic hid in the way woods as a child? Or perhaps.....a confluence of opportunity and timing in 1953 where veepee envisioned a class-based structure as a source of steady income for life? Knowing.....that when Old Man Wierwille died, victor would make his way back to the wierwille homestead near New Knoxville, Ohio? Fast-forward to today.......The Way International is a class-based ministry and on their fifth iteration of the foundational class. From it stolen inception and identity, twi stays in the shadows of its revisionist history.....never able to stand in the pure light of God's grace and glory. All the students who ever sat in pfal, or its variants, were deceived by a hireling who cared not for the flock. He was an opportunist.....as are those who followed his pernicious ways and now are perched in the upper seats at "headquarters" who demand your servitude and abundant sharing. What a con!!! Staffers at "hq" will ALWAYS be your spiritual overlords.....if you allow it. They will ALWAYS be 'the teachers.' You on the field will ALWAYS be....... their students. They will ALWAYS have another class in the pipeline for you to take. Stop the insanity!!!!!
  19. EXACTLY.......so many of us came to twi wanting to learn and enhance our spiritual growth. But lots of the basic truths and familiar verses were bedrock to our Christian foundation LONG BEFORE PFAL. Sheeesh. So often, the corps training was layered in repetitive redundancies treating us like little children. The subjugation agenda was irritating and demeaning. The regimentation and cloning was anti-Christ dogma. IMO.....wierwille and his corps coordinators did NOT have any spiritual perception OR awareness [ Corps Principle #1 ] or else they'd have recognized this systematizing of error. Members in particular..... remember? Not all are the eyes. Nor hands. Nor feet. Wierwille's pfal teachings had errors. Wierwille's corps training was flawed. Was I expecting perfection? Nope. But I wasn't expecting the whole thing to spiral into a cult......either. By 1978, I was looking forward to the day when someone would replace wierwille. Then, maybe.....we'd get to higher ground. Twi was/is not a cult because of its beliefs. It's a cult because of its methods. .
  20. CEO Donnna Martindale is a product of nepotism. She was given unmerited advancement and favoritism from her gal pal Rosalie. Both women are known for behind-the-scenes administrators (cough, cough)......not true leaders. Cunning and crafty, neither Rosalie nor Donna want the spotlight. They'd rather stand in the shadows winking and nodding to the stage presenters, Vern and John. True genuine leaders are on the front lines daily......leading the charge into spiritual battle. They are not committee chairs, nor administrators sitting at desks. With each passing year, twi postulates its position as a worldly organization framed with business incentives. Charts, formulas, descriptions and techno-enhanced presentations are the playground of the mediocre.....NOT those VALIANT FOR THE TRUTH. Read the Book of Acts......and see the acts of Paul, Barnabus, Silas, Stephen, and others who walked by revelation!!! I would venture to say that even in the early 70s......many on the field who walked by the simple truths of Jesus Christ saw power in manifestation. It did NOT come from twi......it came by believing the promises of God and the mediator between God and man, Jesus Christ. Some of us were born again before we ever heard of The Way Ministry. So, while twi continued to tout their little classes and all.....some of us joined hands and walked forward IN SPITE of wierwille's plagiarism, predation and drunkenness. We joined together as brothers and sisters in Christ and worshipped His presence in our lives.....till the day that each in their own heart knew it was time to exit twi's suffocating encroachment and mandates. In Him....we live and move and have our being. May those who are still enslaved.......escape the bondage of twi. .
  21. Brilliantly funny -- to those who can still laugh at the absurdity of CultWars.
  22. When you think about it..........Another PFAL Class Full of Dead Men's Bones is an apt description to "coffin-up" the plagiarized works of wierwille to bilk another generation of indoctrinated followers. .
  23. Seems to me........with each passing year, TWI is little more that nepotism. Nepotism is a form of favoritism shown to acquaintances and family members. Nepotism is the act of abusing one’s power or official position to offer a job or a favor to a family member while disregarding their merit and qualification. According to many in-the-know, Victor Paul badly wanted his eldest son Don to be the 2nd president of twi.....but Don's public speaking prowess was bland and boring. Don much preferred to lead from behind.....ie, an administrator. [Same as Rosalie.] Even stated publically during the 1982 year.....wierwille's grandson, Luke Som3rvill3, was being considered to be groomed for the 3rd president of twi. Think about that!! Nepotism, indeed. Favoritism to family member? Yep. How many of Donna's sisters got put in the fast track to advancement? How about Chandl3r Gr33ne? How about Br!an Moneyhands? (until he lost favor) Yeah.....abusing one's power. That is the sum total of it. God's ministry????? .
  24. THAT IS WHY.....some of us said back in July 2020 the following.....
  25. "Hold the phone....you mean to tell me they made Donna Martindale the CEO?" ~~~~~ Are you asking.....or is this sarcasm? If not, then.....YES, they made Donna CEO. Found on link below:
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