TheSongRemainsTheSame

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~~~the most prevelant end state of people who follow twi is shame.

I do not understand?

song

There are many a love kindness of souls

~~~

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God first

Roy, that is what I am trying once again. Seems that statement has been in my life since childhood. And now appears again. What else am I to persue considering my life is but a breath?

Beloved Song

God bless your loving heart

Thank you Roy.

Forgive me I am using bold text, but the italics seem to blend so much that this reply may be hard to follow. I want to respond to each of your statements/questions/etc utilizing this style/format of response to you.

Thoughts and experiences within each other within each other~~~

I have enjoy every word you wrote because it made me think but give me time to take it in

Yes, those words made me think thirty years ago that there is something lost and could be found/regained.

But, then I met TWI and thought, "I had found the truth!".

I was deceived, but yet learned much about the KJV and the cost was high maintenance of mine mind. TWI is a damnable expensive way to learn the KJV. I was seeking truth and not control of my life.

Take all the time you need Sir Roy. I have just as much as you to take it in.

We have all our breath in this life and the one to come.

I think it be a neverending story wherein things do end but continue on beyound the scope of duracell batteries.

You see I see that what you said is true but is it the complete picture I must ask now

You ask much. I do not have the complete picture. And if i did, that picture would be incomplete. It's a finite world afterall!

Was there a fleshly or spiritual Eden too were they live

There must have been fleshly as well as spiritual if there so be any thing spiritual at all. I can certainly speak for the flesh for it seems quite evident to me that I have a physical body.

If Christ is for real, that's another piece of the "complete picture" that only the Amazing Randi can answer as well as all other religions of skeptical knowledge of truth, whatever truth may be, and religion be the most liar of all the truth, if there be such a "THE TRUTH"!!!

I think you are seeing the understanding that God taught you but is there more to the picture

Is that how God had to explain it for your understanding or the point you are looking at it from

Like I may look at the body from the outside and you may look at the same body from the inside

But if we put both points of view together we have the wholt body view

This is what I nust pray and think about because I see the garden as a spiritual garden that has spiritual fruit and natural fruit

The spiritual fruit for spiritual life and the natural fruit for natural food but another spiritual tree in the mist one of good or evil

Since Adam had only good he receive bad or since he had only life he received spiritual death which came from sin bringing about a later natural death

But who am I

Keep on thinking because I love every word my dear friend

thanks

Let me throw this in

My friend Adam was a real person but he grow from one Adam cell which broke in hapt (one being Adam the other Eve) His hapt grow into a seed the seed grow into a person named Adam

Now God took from the Adam cell and made Eve and that hapt cell grow into a whole cell making a seed and then a person named Eve

Now you look at Adam as a cell or a seed which is made up on cells or a person made of many seeds

I am now taking a break Sir Roy.

Rok On

Song

LCM & ME~~~

heard many of his words

hmmm

VP is awaiting the lourde. VP has a reason for not being here!

LCM is in hiding.

Who sponsers his hiding?

Why does he not come forth as the annointed by VPW!

and i know $$$ is an answer~~~

Why does not TWI get honest about VPWLCM?

just a thot

Also the validity of "the third eye",

"...if thine eye be single...", "...The eyes of your understanding..."

~~~ There is an eastern mind to this. Something was known about a long lost truth.

Roy Rock On!!!

Rokker Man

Song

"The Adam and Eve story is incomprehensible to me!" I observed with considerable heat one day in my early struggles with the allegory. "Why did God punish not only the guilty pair, but also the innocent unborn generations?"

Master was more amused by my vehemence than my ignorance. "Genesis is deeply symbolic, and cannot be grasped by a literal interpretation," he explained. "Its 'tree of life' is the human body. The spinal cord is like an upturned tree, with man's hair as its roots, and afferent and efferent nerves as branches. The tree of the nervous system bears many enjoyable fruits, or sensations of sight, sound, smell, taste, and touch. In these, man may rightfully indulge; but he was forbidden the experience of sex, the 'apple' at the center of the bodily garden.14

"The 'serpent' represents the coiled-up spinal energy which stimulates the sex nerves. 'Adam' is reason, and 'Eve' is feeling. When the emotion or Eve-consciousness in any human being is overpowered by the sex impulse, his reason or Adam also succumbs.15

"God created the human species by materializing the bodies of man and woman through the force of His will; He endowed the new species with the power to create children in a similar 'immaculate' or divine manner.16 Because His manifestation in the individualized soul had hitherto been limited to animals, instinct-bound and lacking the potentialities of full reason, God made the first human bodies, symbolically called Adam and Eve. To these, for advantageous upward evolution, He transferred the souls or divine essence of two animals. 17 In Adam or man, reason predominated; in Eve or woman, feeling was ascendant. Thus was expressed the duality or polarity which underlies the phenomenal worlds. Reason and feeling remain in a heaven of cooperative joy so long as the human mind is not tricked by the serpentine energy of animal propensities.

"The human body was therefore not solely a result of evolution from beasts, but was produced by an act of special creation by God. The animal forms were too crude to express full divinity; the human being was uniquely given a tremendous mental capacity—the 'thousand-petaled lotus' of the brain—as well as acutely awakened occult centers in the spine.

"God, or the Divine Consciousness present within the first created pair, counseled them to enjoy all human sensibilities, but not to put their concentration on touch sensations.18 These were banned in order to avoid the development of the sex organs, which would enmesh humanity in the inferior animal method of propagation. The warning not to revive subconsciously-present bestial memories was not heeded. Resuming the way of brute procreation, Adam and Eve fell from the state of heavenly joy natural to the original perfect man.

"Knowledge of 'good and evil' refers to the cosmic dualistic compulsion. Falling under the sway of maya through misuse of his feeling and reason, or Eve—and Adam—consciousness, man relinquishes his right to enter the heavenly garden of divine self-sufficiency. 19 The personal responsibility of every human being is to restore his 'parents' or dual nature to a unified harmony or Eden."

As Sri Yukteswar ended his discourse, I glanced with new respect at the pages of Genesis.

"Dear Master,' I said, "for the first time I feel a proper filial obligation toward Adam and Eve!"

Autobiography of a Yogi

by Paramahansa Yogananda

Original 1946 Edition

CHAPTER 16

Outwitting the Stars

In 1975 I came into TWI with the above thoughts. Was told this was devil spirit stuff.

I left it back then and embarked on a journey of twenty years with TWI.

Thirty years later I am reviewing this source again to consider its validity.

true water is water like distilled

I sware i was also involved TWI

i with hold my love of tears

truth

whatever that may be

retrospect and respect

how many hugs must i miss the truth

but i gotta tell ya

ya gotta know

I'm just a Long Hair who loves to dance naked in the rain

do i fit in here somewhere?

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Anyone remember how thrilling it was to see things in the scripture that they never saw before?

Yes, I do.

..."the scripture"... to me, is more than one kind of tree in the forest

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We are still looking for the third heaven and earth when sin is gone

Sin will never be gone as long as there is religion and a god that is unknown~~~

damn,

where

is

John Lennon

when ya need him?

The Garden of Eden is the body rather than an actual landscape~~~

Adam & Eve is the heart of your innermost holy of holies~~~

Now is that not amazing Bible Fans?

Or Should I say EAR stern Religion Bible Fans?

Christianty is of Eastern thought and foundation.

If one denys this ~~~ oh well ~~~ King James did not invent this stuff in Rome or Spain!

WhOoPs~~~

What is the "flaming sword" in Genesis 3:24?

What is the "Garden of Eden"?

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Who knows? With practice, our love for "the truth" might just turn inside out again and continue on its merry way.

i dunno, perhaps we've simply lost our sense of humor regarding spiritual inquiry and evalutation.

sirguessalot,

~~~

So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cher u bims and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.

somewhere in Genesis

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CM thread

The lost Love of the Truth

~~~

Regards

Song

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This is a nice fairy tale posted, along with a few out and out lies (like blood can only carry oxygen if it is attached to hemoglobin), by The Song Remains The Same. Judging from all his other posts on this thread one is led to conclude that his pen name should be The Noise Remains The Same. One can't even tell from his last post what words are his and what words are quoted from someone else. At one point I thought he might actually be a high school chemistry teacher, but his public profile says he's a Master Carpenter- looks like part of a demolition crew to me!

hahahahah

nice one

Cheers to you DA~~~

I am a master carpenter

~~~ make no bones about that!!!

~~~ demolition to the fine points of Square Level Plumb and all inbetween a master carpenters skill ~~~

But , I freeze a gallon distilled h2o the night before and let it melt my use for the day after the night before and proceeding ongoing activities~~~

Tigger: You can't bounce the bounce if you can't even pronounce the bounce.

Roo: What is this doo-hickey?

Tigger: Why, that's no doo-hickey. It's a thing-a-ma-bob.

Tigger: The wonderful thing about tiggers / Is tiggers are wonderful things / Their tops are made out of rubber / Their bottoms are made out of springs / They're bouncy, trouncy, flouncy, pouncy fun, fun, fun, fun, fun / But the most wonderful thing about tiggers is I'm the only one / Tiggers are cuddly fellas / Tiggers are awfully sweet / Everyone el-es is jealous / That's why I repeat and repeat / The wonderful thing about tiggers / Is tiggers are marvellous chaps / They're loaded with vim and with vigor / They love to leap in your laps / They're jumpy, bumpy, clumpy, pumpy fun, fun, fun, fun, fun / But the most wonderful thing about tiggers is I'm the only one / I'm the only...

Tigger crashes into Winnie the Pooh

Wacky

Funster~~~

-->

Just had to say high again!!!

Wild Thang

:D-->

Controlling Way Brain

Is like hiding tats inked deep into the skin of the mind depending on how much the color and how many tats.

Some are impossible to remove~~~ like an invite to a couch as some have suggested.

Way Brain is tats of the mind

like old skin art no longer relevent

but remains obvious.

Song

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TheSongRemainsTheSame

Thinks Gore won the election

Posted June 22, 2005 15:40

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A thread worthy a moddishwasher

Song Man

I am humbled

grace &and peace

I still hear too:

Play lot's of Rok N Roll really really loud Celtic Music as it's mood indicates and takes many a walks 'pon the oceans edge and listen to the waves breath during every type of wind you can stand.

AND LAUGH AND CRY ALOT FROM YOUR SOUL OF HEART

I'm just a

Song man

TheSongRemainsTheSame

Posted June 19, 2005 11:52

Oh and uhh yeah Belle, if ya ever have a chance during a straight down real gray rain and gray ocean on the oceans edge, get real naked and dance and sing and shout 'pon the sand untill the rains dissipate and have some one close witness your crazy free soul!!!

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TheSongRemainsTheSame

Posted June 19, 2005 12:02

Feel your heart

Listen to your body

And try hard to understand

The beat of your heart

in your hand

I've seen a person dine with his feet, using all the utinsils and the glasses at an elegant table setting as if the feet and legs were arms~~~

CoolWaters

Posted June 19, 2005 14:37

Well, Belle Darlene, in his own special way, Song's got it right...

Just do something totally different and totally unacceptable to twi brain.

"Belle,

My presence seems to be a distraction on this thread, so I'm done here."

Belle, I agree with Cc.

And, so is my distraction again with drawn!

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It is flat out wrong to publicly post a private conversation without consent.

Where's the "report to moderator" link.

That should be deleted followed by an apology.

Horse s h it BOB!!!

GSC has a kinda a little tiny little space to declare words that were totally private.

If someone sends to me words that are in my opinion rather out of the ordinary and in my HO detrimental to some according to my experiences, why then should these words not be published?

PT is a rare thing for me, like in the way woods~~~

PT offers no warranty LOCK BOX!!!!!!!

surely you jest?

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Song, That was just wrong to post that.

Yeah and your point is!!!

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You have ignored the explicit declared wishes of the author of this thread to take your issues up with me in a Private Topic.

NO I HAVE NOT!!! YOU MADE IT PUBLIC!!!

"The issue with Song and that Song has lies far beyond the subject of this thread. That is why it has been requested to be addressed via Private Topic."

Song

"The issue with Song and that Song has lies far beyond the subject of this thread. That is why it has been requested to be addressed via Private Topic."

"I sincerely hope you will seek the help I advised. You need help from a trained professional."

Whoops, I am sure you will take you own unsolicited advice~~~

care for a PT without announcement CC?