Digitalis

Oldiesman ..

"wouldn't even help one of their own peole"

I was refering to a single mom with one child who gave above and beyond where many would have just found it an inconvenience. She loved to be with Gods people, to have good times with them, to help them in any way that was available to her.

As any single Mom knows, who has no family near her, situations arise. This woman generally never asked anyone for anything but fellowship. Long standing with ministry she was.

Catastrophe happened ......

There were peole who she fellowshipped with who helped her with all they had available and it was a blessing but current leadership for TWI did not. Secular groups donated to her ... we helped her ........ she got a new house built for her ... small but met the need for her and her son. In fact a non believer put his 5th wheel on her property so she and her son could live in it while the house was being built. She was staying with believers pryor to this for a short while.

The present leaders refused financial support of any kind. The present leaders didn't lift a finger to help either. She left TWI because even tho no financial support came, she dealt with it ... No leadership came to help either.

Jesus Christ washed the feet of his disciples.

IMO TWI felt the leaders should be served and many expected service from the people.

There were some who I do recall who were wonderful and really got involved in the daily activities of the people and shared their lives, knowledge and skills with them.

Digi

Year2027 .... This is a great Topic thanks for posting it. I know you said your thanks, hope you don't mind if I carry on this thread a bit, I think its more appropriate here than in the GSers are possessed thread thats going on right now.

There are so many fears that I and my family felt. There are so many fears that the people in our twig/latter HFC felt.

I have another more personal fear that was brought up just yesterday. I am going to leave some of the details out but I believe the category of Possession needs to be looked at under the category of Fear.

Here goes .... I am of fragile mind on this one just to let everyone know. I think the reason I can write today is becuase of another GSer who listened.

Someone in my life committed suicide. I feel that this was selfish and it left alot of people to live with the pain. Regardless of the selfishness and pain ...... I loved him dearly.

We were taught in the Advance Class (no matter which one you took) that for someone to commit suicide they had to be spirit possessed.

Now when you think about someone you personal knew and grew with doing this or being possessed its scary. I have lived with the fear that this person whom I loved was possessed by a disgusting perverted demon.

I want to believe he wasn't possessed. I fear because I want to know hes gonna make it to God when ressurected (sp?).

I wish I would have never had the advance class just because of this one instance. Or any of the classes and events that followed for adv grads.

Digi

Uncle Harry ... You were definately in the right.

Nothing wrong with giving anonymously. We had people in our twig who needed every dollar they had. I never would have dreamed to ask them to pay for a money order, we just put all the cash together to get one money order to send in.

..... Now that I think about it I think in the mid 90s we had to put cash in an envelope with our names on it. I could be wrong ...... crumb I haven't filled out a blue form since 1997 ...... anyone else remember?

Digi

I remember in 1992 I did a 10 mile run for Multiple Sclerosis and collected monies for the event. Only one person in TWI donated and I think he had ulterior motives LOL. Anyway I couldn't get .10 a mile out of anyone else in twi. I never asked any of them again.

I finished in the top 50 of over a 1000 people and received a small tolken medal around my neck, thank God the people from work donated or Multiple Sclerosis foundation would have lost money on me.

Posh ...... I missed the plurality givings when they stopped them. They were great. I remember doing it in the summer and putting out folding tables in the yard for everyone in twig. Neighbors thought we were having a yard sale LOL.

TWI gave absolutely nothing ... wouldn't even help one of their own people ... their own had to believe for what they wanted or weren't a good believer. Shoot who would have asked? If you did, your life became an open book to be scrutinized.

Digi

I currently have both those books ......

Passover and Promise Seed

Lets wait and see how high the go for ....

76$ now ....... not even 3 days yet

I also have VPW "Born again To Serve" autobiography ...... hmmm wondering now

and much more!!

But .. there is no way I would sell it back to TWI

Now what about craiggers books .. I have those too .....guess there not worth anything LOL

Digi

Paw ..

Already Praying ...

Digi

Abigal ...... I don't have the nerve right now to inflict any additional pain upon myself.

So as long as you are doing the kicking .... I might as well turn around and let you kick me too ......

If you would do the honors LOL

Can you make it a double!! LOL

:D--> :P-->

Digi

Oakspear ....... I am going to take you up on that Kazoo lesson ..

Mo ..... Your are a must go. Would love to have you travel with me. If you don't go, I may have to find something to protest ....

hmmmmm like Movies and Chinese Food

:D-->

Digi

Wayward ...... I am with you, I get peeved to.

We had Stock .. Well Stock is income that should

be tithed according to some leaders in TWI.

Of course LCM went beyond TITHE with Adv. Grads and from about 1995 until at least I left in 1997, we were required to give 15% or better ...

We were told being Adv. Grads we were at the point in our spiritual walk we could only get blessed if we were Abundantly Sharing, not giving the mere tithe.

Of course we were confronted and sold our Stock and abundantly shared it ... argh

ABS (Abundant Sharing) in craiggers time was a front line offensive move for him IMO .... probably because this is the period of time that the way corps were all on TWI payroll.

My husband and I were just talking about the last Adv. Special we took. It was on the field in the Spring of 97, held over several weekends. In this video class craiggers writes down 15% is ABS for us to be blessed. Actualy said it should be 20% and started to write down 20 on his white board and then crossed it out and left the 15% up on the board.

I think earlier in the thread someone said

..... Follow the Money .......

Isn't that where we will also find the evil in this case.

Digi

I really liked Kill Bill

.. Love to see a Woman kick a Mans behind

.. Uma was GREEAAT

Quinton T. is now one of my favorite film makers/writers/producers .... although he wasn't at first.

I think Quinton is an aqcuired taste. You get used to him. At least thats what it is for me.

I loved Reservoir Doggs, Pulp Fiction, Dusk til Dawn, and 4 rooms was O.K.

His Dialogue and Music selection is fascinating and entertaining.

Digi

Thank you Raf ...... :)--> :)-->

That was great, just what I needed today!

Digi

HOPE

Histerical !!!!!

I love to read ...... might have to check out Barnes and Noble for this one.

Digi

Chas ..... Great Point ....

Here is another from that class.

Defeating the Advesary

"the advesary accuses you of what he himself is"

Digi

GALEN

Husband and I just finished reading from where we left off last night!!

We are sending you a private topic ..... please check it out ...

BLESS YOUR HEARTS!!!

OUR PRAYERS ARE WITH YOU!!

Digi

CONGRATUALATIONS LIFTED AND NADIA

ALWAYS THINKING OF YOU TWO WITH LOVE IN OUR HEARTS

YOUR MARRIAGE, LIVES AND LOVE ARE TRULY EXAMPLE FOR US

TONY AND DIGI

Hope .....

Where do you get these pics from LOL ...

Histerical .... he went from tights to a dress!

he he he

Digi

Hi WWjesuslaughat nice to meet ya:

Rascal asked this question prior in the thread "are YOU going to be able to view a man with respect that you have been trained to believe is *benieth* you?

Seeing as you are concerned about being unequally yoked with an unbeliever .... I would really give this consideration. He sounds like a great guy .... can you be that great woman for him if you don't believe he is your equal?

Because someone is not a christian in their terminology doesn't mean they are completely an unbeliever, but of course I don't know all his beliefs, but really sounds like a nice guy.

Digi

Rascal you are a dear... thanks!!

Oakspear ..... I don't know how to play the kazoo ...... do lessons come with the kazoos? :)-->

Its a great time of year to have it because its halibut season prior to it up here!!!

I would love to bring halibut down and beer batter fry it for the weenie roast.

Shell ..... I don't know how to have a weenie pull and I don't think I want lessons ... hmmmm LOL

Digi

Rascal said... I`d have to say that the only thing *I* find to be *hopelessly repugnant* on this thread is.....whining

.......

I have to agree with this statement. Could have been a great fun and discussion thread with many aspects to it ..

I logged back on to read what I thought was going to be interesting and conversational.

No wonder they think we are possessed!!

I would love for those of us in Alaska to get together some time.. Would love to hold a BBQ at my house or maybe rent cabins at the lake for the weekend.

We live a ways away from others and it would be nice for us all get together.

If interested email me, click on my name

Digi

Rascal,

Tessa was the friend in Tenn that I wanted to see as long as I was there .... Too Funny

Digi

Shaz ... I was taught the same thing ...

Discerning of Spirits was a Revelation Manifestation.

"Greater is he that is in you than he that is in the world" TWI I believe in the 90s taught more fear than deliverence.

I will have to try the BOO thing out. Loved it

Digi

Rascal .....

Thank you dear so much for the offer of staying at the farm before or after if I need it. I just might come in a day early or leave a day late depending on travel .... I have traveled alot and have never got used to staying in Hotels alone .... so boring.

I was going to try and get ahold of an old friend who is in Tenn and come down earlier to visit her anyway .... of course depending when in october we do this.

You are a doll :)-->

Digi

P.s. Seeing as you have just been appointed headperson for this round up ...... if you need help I could always make sure I come in early to assist in anything any of you need done..

WAP was so confusing .... thinking about it is giving me a headache.

So does the advesary have a larger domain than the earth?

In the book of Job the Lord asked satan "Whence cometh thou?" satan said " from going to and fro in the earth and from walking up and down in it"

I had always believed the advesary had rules too! He would have to be able to travel to and beyond the firmament for this next section as I understood it.

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Just my notes on the usage of these versus, not sure I understand this but I am giving it to you because I think I understood slightly different.

Gen 1:7 And God made the firmament and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so

If I understood Craig for Gen 1:7

that the waters on the earth itself which are the waters under the firmament (the deep) separated from the waters above the firmament (also the deep beyond the firmament in outer space) ?

TWO SETS OF WATERS ONE ON EARTH ONE ABOVE THE FIRMAMENT????

This is where LCM used that special Scientific 3 dimensional GLOBE (I didn't write down the name of it does anyone recall?)

Used Globe of the earth to explain that the waters from the flood of Noah came from the flood gates that opened in the deep beyond the firmament (in outer space). Although My understanding is they were frozen too?

Job 38:29 Out of whose womb came the ice? and the hoary frost of heaven, who hath gendered it?

heaven = representing the deep beyond the firmament .... still ice still frozen

who hath gendered it = Lucifer

Job 38:30 the waters are hid as with a stone, and the face of the deep is frozen.

hid=hardened

still talking about the waters of the deep in space.

This is where he also talked about the giant ice cubes that scientist say are floating in space and could take out the planet literally.

I am no scientist .... I am not even going to tell you I understand this.

My point to this is ....

Does this lead us to the knowledge of our living Lord and and Savior Jesus Christ?

Is this what gets you saved? Uplifts you?

The teaching/instruction was so poorly given, we all probably have different notes in our syllabi and different understandings .. no likemindedness on this crap.

Or was this just suppose to be impressive speach for the MOG in attempt to show off his scientific knowledge?

Digi

Happy Birthday Michael !!! :D-->

Congratulations on your music and success!!!

Wyte .... I am sure you were a major inspiration in his life. Now, he is inspiring others with his music.

Music can be so many things, healing, joyful, inspirational, invigorating, encouraging ... what a great accomplishment.

Digi