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  1. You are one sick person!
  2. Thank you all for your responses. You are all so kind. I really needed a vent. Having no one close makes me lonely and this stuff bottles up with nowhere to go. Sorry for dragging you through my ditch.
  3. I miss her, but my ramblings have been here long enough. [This message was edited by TheEnd on January 31, 2004 at 13:34.]
  4. Craig et al, got the derogatory connotation from Bullinger. Check his companion bible. It's in the comments on one of the verses containing the word Christian. As for the word being derived from "christ in you," I've seen nothing indicating that outside of VPW's mouth and doesn't seem to have much basis especially since it is using English to make the connection. From what I can tell, chistian means "follower of the messiah." Messiah means "the anointed one" and refers to a king (recall David calling Saul God's anointed one). The derogatory implication may come from the fact that the "unbelievers" saw that he was dead, so they were followers of a dead king. Such is what I know and have opinionated. I think you can check any 90's tape with Craig teaching on it and find him bashing "christianity." He always had to compare TWI with everyone else, show how TWI was right and everyone else wrong, usually with a condescending raised voice. Hope this helps with your paper.
  5. Why didn't Harve put his letter on his own web site?
  6. Well, the link function isn't working right. Its: http://libraries.mit.edu/about/staff/g-l.html#h MIT Library STaff
  7. He works at MIT. See: MIT Library Staff
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    Rick Weigel

    Last I saw Rick he was living south of Ann Arbor, MI - almost on the Ohio border. He was going to Toledo for his TWI fix. It's been a few years. I doubt he has moved. Don't know if he is still in.
  9. TheEnd

    Pete Miller

    Pete & Cindy were in Ann Arbor after their 1 year stint in New Hicksville. In 95 they were dropped from the corps at the ROA. Not long after they were M&A (about 2 days later if I recall). After that Cindy went to California, Pete stayed in Michigan and tried working his way back into TWI. In 96 or 97, Pete was let back in for a short time. He was sent packing again because the stick he was in experienced a downfall in outreach coinciding with his appearance. Haven't heard about him since. He's a nice guy and got a really raw deal from TWI. Don't know what happened with his marriage but you can bet TWI had something to do with it.
  10. Joe is in the Boston area. He's still an innie as far as I know. I have contact info if you like. Shoot me a private message (somehow) and I'll see what I can do. He would probably talk with you, even though he is an innie.
  11. Rafael, I found some more info on ekklesia. It looks like it can be included as an actual error after all. It's pretty good but also pretty long and complicated. I'm trying to trim it down and summarize it.
  12. OK, Israel is called an ekklesia in the septuagent. Go figure. This is getting to the point that it violates Rafael's rules for this thread, so I'll stop here.
  13. I have to agree with Plotinus on ekklesia. VP did not say, "a group of people who have gathered for a specific purpose." He used "the called-out." According to The New Dynamic Church, page 4 (which I believe is a transcription of a PFAL session): The people refered to in Acts were called an ekklesia because they were citizens of the city gathered in one place. The fact that they were rioting has nothing to do with it. From my various readings (which I can't document at the moment), ekklesia was a political word. It was the gathering of the citizens to discuss and decide issues. Any citizen had the right to speak at these meetings and to propose matters for discussion (contrary to how TWI operates). Vic goes on to talk about the ekklesia, or called out, of Israel. He even has a chart on page 7 showing three ekklesia's, Israel, Body of Christ, then Isreal again (held in obeyance). Only problem is, Israel is never called an ekklesia, as far as the New Testament is concerned (haven't checked the septuagent). The two greek words are never in the same verse together. I don't think Israel could be called an ekklesia because they did not function in that manner.
  14. Here's another one from Genesis. Page 238 of PFAL, in reference to Genesis 1:1, ole Vic writes: Oh really? Vic did get the hebrew word right, but totaly blew the definition. Although I'm currently lacking a few research materials (a long story,) my Young's Analytical Concordance to the Bible defines bara as "to prepare, form, fashion, create." If we are to accept Vic's definition, perhaps he could explain the use of bara in the following verses: Joshua 17:14-18 14 ΒΆ And the children of Joseph spake unto Joshua, saying, Why hast thou given me but one lot and one portion to inherit, seeing I am a great people, forasmuch as the LORD hath blessed me hitherto? 15 And Joshua answered them, If thou be a great people, then get thee up to the wood country, and cut down (bara) for thyself there in the land of the Perizzites and of the giants, if mount Ephraim be too narrow for thee. 16 And the children of Joseph said, The hill is not enough for us: and all the Canaanites that dwell in the land of the valley have chariots of iron, both they who are of Bethshean and her towns, and they who are of the valley of Jezreel. 17 And Joshua spake unto the house of Joseph, even to Ephraim and to Manasseh, saying, Thou art a great people, and hast great power: thou shalt not have one lot only: 18 But the mountain shall be thine; for it is a wood, and thou shalt cut it down (bara): and the outgoings of it shall be thine: for thou shalt drive out the Canaanites, though they have iron chariots, and though they be strong. This is a good one: Ezekiel 23:47 And the company shall stone them with stones, and dispatch (bara) them with their swords; they shall slay their sons and their daughters, and burn up their houses with fire. I remember giving Vic's definition of bara to a professor of Old Testament history I had once, who knew Hebrew pretty well. He gave me a dumb look and said that word does not imply any such thing.
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