Jim

Thanks Radar.

Cool,

I've read the thread. I know the people that I associated with. I stand by my post.

I did not say it could not have happened. I did not say that there were not child abusers in TWI. What I did say is that the people that *I* knew would never have done *or* tolerated such an act. Is that so unbelievable?

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I know what happened. I just wanted to know if it was something that normally happened in TWI or if it was a small faction that decided to do this for kicks.

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No. It did not "normally" happen. In fact, had any of the people that I knew in TWI been made aware about such an incident, they would have resolved it immediately. With force. In such a way that the perp would not be able to repeat the crime.

That's why your story seems so incredible.

What you desire is a noble and worthy thing, and I believe there's none among us that would begrudge you the honor. There is one small detail that must first be resolved. You must write us a doctoral thesis. Now taking into consideration the unorthodox nature of your request, and the questionable legitimacy of any research that you may have been exposed to at TWI, most any thesis you submit, whether it be your original work or that of others will probably be accepted.

Years ago, I did write a letter to the man who was my supervisor when I worked on staff. I told him that he certainly must see the problems of TWI, that I respected and admired his ability and what he had taught me, and that now was a perfect time to find a secular job. I offered to write a letter of recommendation for him and to be available as a reference.

I got no reply and he is still working at TWI.

What more could I do?

I'm not going to speak to the spiritual or Biblical issues because I don't consider myself to be much of a spiritual or Biblical person.

On the other hand, my experience in building my own business and being involved in local politics does give me an insight into the matters of money and control of power.

We should have *never* poured our money and time into an organization that gave us *no* control over it's future. Our money went toward Loy's "homo purge". Our money supports Donna in the Corps chalet. Our money cleans Rosie's pool.

What should have been done differently? More money staying at the local level, like Dopp and Hefner wanted. Believers on the BOT placed there by popular vote of contributers. Public documents on the spending habits of BOT and upper staff. Caps on the amount of cash reserves that the ministry could accumulate.

No more non-profit Enron's or Tyco's

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Let's see, she's not a trustee, not a cabinent member, doesn't run her own department, she's just "special assistant" to Rosie - i.e., a glorified secretary - so what's she doing in the chalet? I can't believe innies don't say anything about this, even among themselves.

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They can say something, they can demand something, they can walk around wierwille road carrying pickets, they can withhold their abundant sharing. All it will get them is what we are, being an outie.

The BOT is a perfect power structure. With a rumored $40M+ in the bank and nobody to answer to, they don't have to and won't listen to anyone. They don't care who stays or leaves, there's plenty of money in the bank. The fewer the members, the less work for the fat cats at HQ. So don't hold your breath for any popular uprising against Donna.

I will never, ever complain about the price of tickets to classical music events.

I heard Bach's Mass in B Minor, 2 hours of arguably the finest choral music ever written, in a world-class concert hall performed by a world-class group, in box seats, for $36 a ticket.

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I remember thinking to myself at the time..."*****".

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No, coward. ***** is a good thing.

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I'm running Win 2003 Server on a small peer to peer network without DNS. It work fine.

Biggest prob with Win 2003 for me was undoing things they turn off to make it more "efficient"

I have an excellent article that deals with this. It seems very solid because I am also using the "server" as a desktop machine.

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I have to run client/server on the network. Can you tell me where I can get a copy of this article?

Zix,

Ack what you said about machines, graphics/CAD people get Prescot P4's, 3Ghz, 1gig DDR, everyone else Celeron 2.6Ghz, 512m DDR. Everyone gets the same motherboard/network card/AGP graphics card/dvd drive so that one set of spares can be kept and changed out with no driver hassles.

I'm still concerned about DNS. The Win2003 server will not be used for any TCP/IP services to the outside world. What I've read is that for it to be the intranet server, it has to do DNS for everybody on the local network. Sigh, time to read some more.

Ckeer,

I'll definitely look into that. The biggest gripe I've heard so far is that there's not a file explorer in the traditional sense and it's not clear where XP puts your files.

My company has several machines running Win98se. They are all networked peer-to-peer along with a machine that works as a server for common data. The server runs Win98se peer-to-peer as well.

Over the next couple of months I have to migrate all the desktops over to WinXP Pro and the server to Win2003 Server. The reason is that we have to install some new software that needs either client/server networking or WinXP running on the desktop.

As you might expect, I'm really dreading the changeover. The Win98 boxes have been very solid and I've heard lots of complaints about XP Pro. On the other hand, I look forward to the much-improved performace promised by the upgrade.

I have the luxury of buying all-new hardware with the exception of monitors, so I can set up the new system in parallel with the old one and test it.

I have two major problems, first I have to learn or hire a consultant to help me set up the networking. I understand that I must run DNS on the Win2003 box and that I should have a good grasp of group policies. My skill level is pretty low on the Microsoft side of things. I've set up several Linux servers and have a good grasp of routing, DNS and the like, but not the way Microsoft does it. I will have the option of bringing in a knowledgeable consultant at a reasonable price, and I'll probably use a couple hours of her time to get me started.

The other big problem is the users. A couple of them are downright hostile to XP Pro and I'd like to have some way to minimize the changeover problems. If there are any ways to make the desktop look and behave like Win98 for these users, I'd sure like to know about it.

Finally, a lessor problem will be to set up a decent data backup scheme. Given the cheapness of hard drivers, I'm looking at installing a machine whose job will be to automatically run a rotating 7-day backup each night to it's local drives, along with a tape backup to go off-site once a week.

I would be delighted to hear any and all advice concerning these issues.

Wasn't there another big and stinky issue about corps sponsorship? Seems like contributers thought it was deductable and the IRS decided it wasn't.

While we're on the subject of "books that make you wish you'd never joined a cult", I also nominate Elmer Gantry by Sinclair Lewis.

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Or merely in comparison with Atlas Shrugged & The Fountainhead? I'm tempted, so long as I don't totally fall off in total Rand-ism again...

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My first reaction exactly. She's a wordy and engaging author that can tie you up for weeks. I don't particularly sign off on her idealogy, but I will credit her with some excellent writing.

Here's some AwesomeTruths from TWI that I've learned.

1. Money invested in real estate has a better rate of return than money invested in TWI.

2. Time invested in a college degree has a better rate of return than time invested in TWI.

3. Most, if not all, religious leaders have clay feet.

4. Saying "sincerity is no guarantee of truth" is no guarantee of truth.

5. Millet for breakfast sucks.

6. Ohio is too hot and humid in the summer.

7. Ohio is too cold and windy in the winter.

8. Cornfields are best used to grow corn.

9. "Bless Patrol" is an oxymoron.

10. My job on earth is not to "spread the Word".

Maybe it's time for the thread to move to doctrine. I haven't seen a reference to JAL for about 15 posts...

I think Loy got the job because he looked good in a suit. Too bad VPW didn't see him in tights.

Where's Research Geek?

I want to know the Biblical perspective on engaging/evading debate.

I guess that if he wanted a dialog, he wouldn't have shut down the CES forums.

In my family we have what is known as the "any damn fool ought to know that" argument conclusion.

After stating a premise of any sort, just conclude it with "any damn fool ought to know that" My dad did this for years anytime he wanted to add finality to a statement. Now it's sort of a sick joke with the kids and grandkids.

"pb" to an engineer or chemist sounds too much like lead.

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You might want to try pad thai sometime if you've never had it. Think of it as almost of a spaghetti with a peanut and ginger sauce, and if you get meat you can get shrimp or chicken on it. Good stuff.

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*Seriously* good stuff.

If you're ever in the SF Bay area, on the east side, go to the Emory Bay Food Court. The Tai food stand has the best vegetarian pad thai that you can imagine. I've been known to drive 60 miles for it.

Satori000,

I don't know why but your post reminds me of a P.J. O'Rourke quote made at a long past Democratic Convention - "I was moved by his speech, and it wasn't just because I was drunk".

In any case, I think that some thoughtful questions are good, even if JAL doesn't feel like addressing them. At least his followers will read them and think about them.

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7. Use foreign phrases: French is good, but Latin is the lingua franca of flaming. You should use the words "ad hominem" at least three times per article. Other favorite Latin phrases are "ad nauseum," "vini, vidi, vici," and "fetuccini alfredo."

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You left out my favorite, "non sequitur"

It must be a good one cause I learned it on Star Trek.

John,

One of the main issues I have with the conduct of TWI is the handling of the corporate assets. VPW made it clear that unless we were on the BOT we were mere followers and had absolutely no say in the use of the time and money we contributed.

With the present TWI management sitting on an alleged 40+ million dollars, much of it probably socked away during our watch, the error of that policy should be very clear. Of course if you happen to be on the BOT, it probably doesn't seem like an error but "good stewardship" (rolls his eyes).

What do you think of this policy and it's end result. How does your organization handle this issue?