johniam

The shining. Back in the 60's I saw a movie called the haunting of hill house with Julie Harris, but in recent times it's the shining hands down.

I've seen the reanimator, eww, and all three texas chainsaw movies, #2 was as much a comedy as horror. Dennis Hopper, too cool.

Saw a 60's movie called the wizard of gore. Know of a case where this guy took his girl to see it and she wasn't his girl afterward.

Those mark of the devil movies are pretty intense.

My vote is for Gimme shelter/Stones. From the first time I listened to it to today, that riff is so gripping.

Also for those of you who have seen the movie song remains the same/Led Zep, did you notice that...OK, first song is Rock and Roll, then Page plays that riff from bring it on home, Then they do Black dog. Why did Page play just that riff but not the whole song?

My guess is...Black dog is one of few rock and roll songs that doesn't have a musical intro; it goes right into the lyrics, therefore Robert Plant need to get his pitch. If you're a jr high/ high school choir the director can just pull out a pitch pipe and give each voice their note, but if you're Led Zeppelin? Uh, definite image problem there, so the last note of the riff from Bring it on home is the first note of Black dog. Ingenious!

As far as songs go that don't start with music, I saw Styx do Renegade few years back, but it was the first song of their encore, so Tommy Shaw could have gotten his note by turning down the guitar a bit and hitting it seconds before they walked back on stage.

The politics is even smellier than that. If you are religious, you found out TWI was a cult from trinitarians/ if you're not religious, you found out TWI was a cult from the media.

The trinitarian's explanation is obvious, but the media's explanation is most hypocritical. If you go to TWI and are taught that JC isn't God, etc. this is "MIND CONTROL"! If you go to the catholic church and are taught as a small child that if you ever leave the church you burn in hell forever, this is NOT mind control! LOL!

Rottiegirl: Oh, yes. I see some hypocrisy there. How about this? If you don't believe JC is God, you're a 'cult', right? Yet, Jews and Moslems don't believe that; Moslems believe he was a prophet and Jews believe he was a deceiver. Neither believe he's God. So which of these 'cult experts' is going to actually come out and admit that they really believe Jews and Moslems are 'cults', too? Can anyone say 'hell freezes over'?

It's all politics; the word 'cult' is a bigot slur like any other. It's only acceptable because the people in these 'cults' are perceived to be too small and powerless to fight back with any impact just like black people were perceived to be 50-100 yrs ago.

I'll ask one question in two different ways:

#1 - If I'm a cult and I never change what I believe, how much time, how much net worth, and how many members must I accumulate before I'm not a cult anymore?

#2 - If I'm the Roman Catholic Church, how many children must my priests molest before I become a cult?

I think it's BOTH: sexist AND smart selling. Anybody remember when Strohs introduced the 'stay cold 12 pack' with the ad where a hillbilly says it stays cold fer, well, fer a right smart time. "You tell 'em, Willard."

Yeah, and Monica Lewinski was Bill Clinton's ONE TIME ONLY sexual 'misadventure'. Mmm hmm.

This is head scratching material. I heard that during the first TWI fellowship LCM attended, the teacher asked a trick question and pointed at LCM, who, caught totally off guard said 'I don't know.', at which point the teacher leaped into the air and said "You're RIGHT! If the word doesn't tell you, you don't KNOW!" Mum to mud to mad to dad, the prince was a brick, the brick was an egg, the egg was a bird! What a difference a few short MOGs make.

Grasshopper: You said it: "God is still with me, unconditionally." That's as 'self reliant' as it gets. Believe that, and NOBODY can mess with you for very long.

"You may have my corpse, but you may not have my obedience." - Ghandi

What if C-A-T really spells dog?

Sorry. I didn't see this until just now. I was trying to pick people in the word who slept through some choice stuff. For Lot, see Gen.19:30-38; for Abner, 1Sam.26:7-16.

Think about it. Abner, too.

In TWI we were told that it was the ARTISTS who were so evil. I'm not so sure. Follow this mini time line with me...

early 1966: Jefferson Airplane is recording their first album. One song is left off it because it says 'trips, trips, trips' and RCA is a 'family values' company and they don't want no drug references y'hear?

Feb. 1967: JA's second album is released, again with no blatant drug references, but it has two hit singlesssSSS$$$$$$.

June 1, 1967: Release date of Beatles' Sgt. Pepper's LHCB...blatant drug references...sells like hotcakes.

June 26, 1967: JA begins recording their third album, unusual for a band still touring from the previous recording to start another recording. Oh, by the way! Plenty of drug references on this one.

Christmas 1967: Plenty of new albums out with plenty of drug talk.

Conclusion: Once the 'family values' company execs saw that drugs sell, they wanted their artists to sell some....RIGHT NOW!!! At least the artists used the drugs they were singing about. I can respect that more than some heroin dealer who doesn't use the stuff himself, but knowingly sells it to people it's going to hurt. So who's really 'evil' in this scenario?

When I was in jr high I came home from school early one day and the curtains were closed, hmmm. I go inside and my mom had Benny Goodman cranked up LOUD with the vacuum in the middle of the living room floor as a pretend partner and she's jitterbugging with it. Gettin' 'jitty' with it! Bad. Then she saw me and got all embarrassed, but I thought that was cool. Even into her 70's she would drive all the way from Grand Rapids, MI to Davenport, IA for this Bix Beiderbeck jazz show every summer.

She wasn't quite as cool about rock and roll, though. In 1966 I was watching the Stones do 'Let's spend the night together' on the Shindig TV show and she comes running in there saying Mick Jagger is an ANIMAL!!! Bless her heart; Eric Burden was the animals' lead singer. How silly!

I think 60's rock and roll DID indirectly lead to my doing drugs, but I still like it. They were my heroes. They seemed like they were more honest than the other adults I heard talk. Foolish notion, but I bought it.

Music gets people excited. That's a good thing. The other stuff is just baggage.

I was at my first ROA. Not much was made of it in the group of people I was with.

When my time comes that's how I wanna go

Stoned and fat and wealthy and sittin' on the bowl....excerpt from 'Going to Graceland' by the Dead Milkmen.

When I first got internet service, it was AOL. When told I couldn't use my actual name (John Spencer) in my email address, in a moment of rebellion, I chose JohnIamnot. So not much later when I discovered waydale the logical choice for a username was johniam. The ironic part of all this is that johniam sounds similar to SamIam the main character in Dr. Seuss' Green eggs and ham who spends the whole story in relentless attempt to get that other guy to try green eggs and ham. Here, I'm one of very few who has anything good to say about VPW and PFAL and everybody else seemingly tries to get me to try the 'green eggs and ham' of abandoning this position.

Is Dave Garibaldi back in Tower of Power? I know he did atleast one tour with Mickey Hart's band in the last few years.

Yes, Bear barks at TV doorbells. But he barks for no reason sometimes too.

Two bass players went to a brothel. The madam took one look at them and said,"No way I'm using real girls for these guys.' So she set up rooms with blow up dolls. The two bass players did their thing and left. As they were driving away one said to the other, "Hey, man. I think the girl they gave me was dead. I mean, she didn't say anything and I don't think she was breathing." The other one says, "I think the one they gave me was a witch. I playfully bit her on the nipple and she flew out the window"

The moral of the story is: you know a bass player's doing his job when you don't even notice them. I saw the Who live once; on Nov. 19, 1973 at the Cow Palace in San Francisco. The show got some press because Keith Moon passed out during Won't get fooled again. They revived him after a half hour or so and tried to play Magic bus. Passed out again. They had already played for an hour and a half so it wasn't like a total ripoff, but Entwistle wasn't Daltrey or Townsend and he didn't pass out so he was the least noticable, ha ha. Not to get too off topic, but it seems to me that bass players historically are the least likely to die of all rockers. I can now think of 5: Berry Oakley and Cliff Burton (vehicle accidents), Jaco Pastorius (drugs, I think), and Chas. Chandler and now Entwistle (both heart attacks). Anyone think of anybody else?