vickles

Here it is for all that is interested. Its going to be in Hinckley at 1 pm at Toby's. Then you have the option of gambling after the get together.

Please let me know if your interested in coming and I will give you directions if needed. Look forward to seeing you all!!!!!!

I'm sorry I tried to delete but couldn't.

All I can say is White Dove, I agree to disagree.

My daughter tells me that yoga has helped her while going to college.

Excie, as you know, I've been questioning a lot about God and other things. I'm wondering if the next time you see her when your at the grocery store if you could ask her if she prayer before? I know it sounds weird but it would be interesting to know.

You have a great heart Excie. Even the thought of helping someone feels good inside, doesn't it.

My feelings are so hurt that they have not contacted me. OH wait my last name isn't the same and I don't live in the same area. Now how in the heck can they call me?

I don't know how I would react. Its been so long and my life has changed so much (for the good) that I wouldn't even consider. Plus, I'm getting too old to be that busy. I wonder if I would have the patience to use string to put the chairs right? Or spend several hours in a room SITing? Going to someone's house and have them boss me around? Wanting to know where I was when I did it? What was my paycheck to make sure I did 20 percent? I don't think so.

Are they crazy?

The grandmother must sometime wake up and smell the coffee. You know whats sad, the pics of Kaylee look just like her grandmother.

I don't understand why in the world Casey was allowed to leave the jail. I don't think she can tell the truth even if she wanted to. I have a kid that is a pathological liar. You get to the place that you don't believe anything the kid says and you learn not to cover up for them. But it takes a long time to get to that place. And, if my kid did have a baby I would find everyway I could to keep that baby safe.

When this first started I couldn't figure out why Casey even had a nanny. Especially if she didn't work and so had no money coming in. And, if she had that nanny for a couple of years, how come the grandmother never met her?????

There are so many questions and no answers for the entire family. I would say that the whole family must have some psych problems.

Oh my!!! How wonderful, Congratulations!!!!!!

So now we got that out of the way and we are going for food, White Dove, are you coming? We can make sure of more mashed potatoes on our plates.....

I was in Colorado and as things happen in life we had to move back to Minnesota.

I had a beautiful lovely winter there. I did get married and am happily married. We live in the boonies and get to see the wildlife. My wolf dog and my other animals love it out here!!!

So Dove, when are you coming out here for our get together? You can travel I-35 couldn't you? My husband and I could put you up for a night or two.

But then I'm always leaning toward my two shi tzu's whom I also love and adore.

Here is my other shi tzu

I have more pics of the wolf dog, Junior, I finally learned how to put pics in.

My most favorite is my wolf dog who is mostly timber wolf with a little dash of german shepard.

Its been years since our last get together. Right now is a really nice time a year to gether. Would anyone be interested? The time we did get together was very nice. Meeting for lunch at a resteraunt. So please let me know.

Grand Casino in Hinckley would work well with me. They have a nice buffet in there.

Hey Dougie,

I think you haven't been on here these forums people don't know who you are ....come out of the music, come out, come out where ever you are....

Hope you had a friggin good birthday!!!

Oh I forgot....

Any slurpees lately?

Well, I work at Walmart. The problem may have been that the roller got stuck and the manager was called. When she/he opened it up it was wet and sticky. This told the manager that it must have been wet coming out of the cassette.

The manager that is working the floor usually is managing the whole floor and may have not known how it happened. There is always a manager at Walmart so you could have talked to a manager.

I would rather like to think that someone hadn't lied to you but misunderstood the situation. Walmart is very good at giving a gift card for customer satisfaction. On your receipt there is a phone number with the manager's name on it. If you still have a complaint I suggest you call the manager and let them know.

I agree with Shellon.

Happy birthday Dougie!!! Hope you have a great day tomorrow and forget that your getting old....

Thanks for being a friend!!!

What do you mean? Were you looking for a sign that there really is a God? And you are trying to figure out if this was the sign?

Over the years, here at GSC and in the "real" world, I've heard folks use stories like yours to demonstrate that there is a God and that he's looking out for them. Frankly, I think that, as nice as it was that you got pulled out of the ditch, it really doesn't mean anything in regard to your questions about God.

Okay, if there is a God that fits the common Christian expectation, then it seems to me that this is exactly what he would do for you. On the other hand, even if there is no God, Mr. Smiley Christian acted in just the way you would expect someone who faithfully follows the tenets of Christianity to act, jumping in to help someone in need. Heck, he acted like any reasonably neighborly or mildly altruistic person would act. I've done the same a time or two (most recently today) and I'm not a Christian.

What I'm saying is that if believing in God "works" for you, then do it, if it doesn't "work", doesn't fit the observable facts, then don't.

I totally get what your saying there dear Oak. After I posted about this incident. I would say not even 5 minutes after I received some bad news about one of my children.

So, I think to me it has to be about using whatever we can so that what we believe in is the truth and use our own experiences to substantiate what it is we want to believe. Interesting.

This thread has really got me thinking. And what it reminds me of is THIS

Hey Lindy,

I don't have sound on my computer, can you explain what it reminds you of? I really want to know. Thanks!!!

I had the strangest thing happen to me today. I still don't know what to believe but its really what happened.

Bob and I were traveling as I was determined to get my new puppy. The roads were really super bad and we really went into a ditch going the other way. The snow had been so deep that it was clear up my window. The first man that stopped had a really big sticker on the back that said 'I love Jesus' on it. He came out of the truck smiling came up to the car and looked right at me through the front window. It was kind of freaky. He still had that smile on his face. It was like he was there just for me. Right when he did that another man in another vehicle stopped and his jeep was able to pull us out with his big whatever it was in front of the truck. I had never seen anything like that before.

When they went to leave I thanked them so much for helping us. The man with the sticker on the back of his truck looked me straight in the eyes and said 'We have a great big wonderful God that is there for us.' Kept on smiling and went back into his truck and drove away. I got a feeling inside that he knew what I had been going through.

The other guys was so friendly also. They both had smiles even though part of the time they were laying on their backs trying to hook up the car.

As I said I have to contemplate this. I want to go and cry and say I got the answer back but did I really?

For years I've not believed in speaking in tongues. Any one can garble something to make it look like a language. So someone using that as proof of there is a God doesn't wash for me.

Hey if God was spitting tobacco it would look like being rained on and would look like little turds. eeewwwwww

I think the reason some except religion and/or christianity is because its something to hold on to in times of great need. I know I was taught through out my whole years starting as a baby that there is one. I didn't need proof. And now looking at everything in a new prospective I am beginning to wonder if it was just my imagination when I thought miracles were happening. I mean I can go to a stop light and say in the name of Jesus Christ light change and sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't. lol I used to say that was a miracle when it did change. Now thats rose colored glasses thinking.

Roy,

I so appreciate your honesty and love. You are a good person inside and out.

Hey, I've never been to doctrinal before. Have I gone up the ladder, or what?

George I read your post and understood what your saying....loved your humor along with it!!!

Hey, excie, we have a lot in common, I talk to myself too...I think its because I'm the only one that hears it....

Don't get me wrong. I'm not depressed or trying to heal from TWI, trying to gather my thoughts on what really do I believe? I don't know. If I don't believe and then the second coming comes, will I be left behind because of my unbelief? Or do I believe because out of fear something might happen to me? Do I believe because it just makes me feel good? What is deep down inside of me?

For so many years I've gone with the program and just went with everyone else. Now that I've come to an empass (sorry, spelling may be wrong), or should I say cross roads in life, and as I age (btw, the aging thing is not as much fun as I thought) I am beginning to feel without hope. I so want hope. Maybe not in the sense that we were taught in TWI. Not that kind of hope but an awakening hope. Something that I can see and feel of something wonderful. Not something unreal but something tangible.

Life is hard I know, but I see all these people that look like they have such wonderful lives, great children and have everything beyond what I can even think of. I'm wondering did I miss out on something here? If there is a God how come I don't have what they have? Why do I have to have a God awful life? Why is it here when I have dedicated my whole life to a just God? Don't tell me that there is a devil and devil spirits I won't believe that. Otherwise if there really was how come it seems that those seems to be victorious?

Anyways, enough with my thoughts. Thanks again for all your thoughts on this. This to me give me a lot to think about and I hope you all truly understand what I'm trying to say.

Its all thought provoking and the realness of it is ssssoooo big in this respect its almost overwhelming.

I'm starting to feel better about my situation but I still wonder.

It is the most difficult thing i have EVER experianced,trying to get back to knowing God loves me. God loves you no matter what NO MATTER WHAT,the fact that right now you are wondering that is okay,it doesn't change things,God doesn't change, we all have been thru hell and back with this so called ministry and we have hurts and scars,we will never be the same as we were before twi,but keep the good,you found in friends and toss out the bad,you are a child of God and that doesn't get taken away,although sometimes we feel like orphans and walk alone ,...you can know your Not. all those years i was searching for answers i thought about the people of twi they were like family,i wondered how everyone was,where have they been,i felt like we had been thru a war togethre and we left others behind,i wanted to go back and get those others,it is tormenting knowing someone else is going through the same thing you did. i am not here to preach to anyone i am just here and if you want you can talk to me anytime.

But OKC, I don't think it has anything to do with TWI. That is why I posted in open. I have dealt with the scars of TWI.

I understand about the preaching but your ok.

Thanks so much you all for your responses.

As you know I've been to Greasespot for about 5 years. I've been such a believer of God and thought that I have felt his presence. I'm truly wondering if that was my rose colored glasses playing a trick on my mind or if he is just not showing Himself to me lately. Or maybe if there is one he has decided for me to do this alone for a while as some parents have to with their children.

My whole life and family have been having major downs lately. Life changing downs and I look around and don't see Him.

Jonny and others truly brought tears to my eyes with the words used. But is it just words?

George, I'm wondering if what you say is true if I could handle it with no hope? I've always said I need to have something to look forward to in the long run. So, if I stay on the route of 'I don't believe' I wonder if something good for that hope leaves me? This is what I'm afraid of.

I had a cat who I didn't realize was more feral than anything. Got her from a foster home. We brought her home and somehow climbed in the walls. She only got out when everyone was sleeping because she didn't starve. I worried about her and occaisonally would see her tail as she traveled through the house as fast as she could go.

It took a long time (several months) for her to learn to trust us. But what we did was just let her be and if she was around we would at least touch her so that she would get used to the touch. She became affectionate after time.